you know its a real shame in this industry we don't want repeat customers. We want to try and rip off customers for as much as we can get.If your site had a shit load of good quality content it would be a different story.Your sites proably loook like ars sites on the inside

"I still don't know.....What sites does Quiet run?"

... he ain´t a fish ... he is a whale !

he runs a nice movie site that cost 18.95 for 30 days it should not be hard to figure out what site it is

you're the only one. :(



seriously...

I not going to kiss ass for someone's business.. My program converts and that is what matters.

You think I'm the only program doing this.. LOL

I can sit here and give you a list of every notiable sponser that has this type of program.. The only differance is the fact that i'm giving you 60% of the backend!

Don't be so dence.

how about rasing the per signup to $40

I like the whole idea of that. Not sure how your fucking the surfer at all. They have an OPTION to join other sites and have the OPTION to continue the membership by getting rebilled. If they can read English than your not fucking anyone.

How did I know funkmaster would show up.

Tell us why Sexentertain's sites are worth $300 a month funkmaster. We're all very interested to know.

your mom is a whore

black text on dark brown background

I had to highlight it to read it

yeah, you're right. he's totally not fucking the surfer

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Nice job on your new TOS. I think you missed something.

your moms phone number?

*slaps knee*

Jammy, that color manipulation is pretty humorous. Which site was it?

Are you too stupid to write down a complete thought? Or do you just like being really secretive?

That text color cannot be changed for all I know..

I love when guys like you like to try to slam anyone that is making an effort to bring more cash to webmasters..

Seems the only thing that comes out of your mouth is shit.. That's fine with me dude.. I can handle it..

So let's see your program (if you have one) or lets see some sites that you have big man.... Let see your flawless and surfer friendly money maker...

I'm sure we would love to see it..

Hide behind the fact that nobody knows who you are.. No contact info, sig, nothing..

orgyfucked

So....

do you have a model release for putting Christina in your sig?


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I don't know why I waste my time with you..

He is an idiot. He has no clue how to run a successful program.

LOL dude there is NO way in hell you can convince anybody you put black font on a brown background other than to screw the surfer. I knew there was going to be fineprint cross sales and I STILL had to highlight to read it! lol At least make the background white for christ sakes,or does that effect your "business model"? :1orglaugh

EX:Cumfiesta.com

nastydollars,worth more than all of us in this discussion put together...plain and simple

This crossselling bullshit is *mostly* dominated by the people who have absolutly no money when starting their program and try to make a quick dollar...I doubt the people that got charged $300 from a dialer call ever called a dialer again,so what makes you think these people getting ribbed by practices like this will ever sign up for a paysite again?

This gets better by the minute.

At least it doesn't try to crossbill you to OrgyFucked anymore.

http://epochsystems.com/ezclickbuyers ... yep.. your so right


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Why would they care? They've already signed the surfer up for all their paysites, along with all their scammy friends' paysites as well.

I have never even looked at his paysites.. so I dont know wtf you are talking about on his join page.. But mine are very clear.

If the surfer cant fucking read, then he has no business on the internet. However, If he has atleast a 4th grade education level, then they can clearly read what they are signing up for. There must be less than 50 words in paragraph form with proper punctuation to eliminate all possible ways to mis interpret this.

drops... bro....

hire a P.R. guy, it will increase your bottom line by at least 15-20% within 8 months, i guarantee you....

we should continue that discussion that we started months ago...

the method YOU'RE using is totally different,crossbilling done the right way really isn't that much of a dodgy idea... Your's is an obvious set out to squeeze everything you can from somebodies card...I didn't investigate your site and shit but are you crossselling your own sites? For some odd reason I'm thinking the member area's look exactly the same with a few plugins switched around to cover the niche.Your site isnt worth what you're charging... I can't compare you to anybody else cross selling sites..I'm not attacking you or even giving advice,I'm showing you that you're a dick head and it's up to you to fix it...doubt you will...$75+ a signup you're getting for the next few months probably helps you sleep well I'm sure


If it's so moral,why isn't everybody doing it? :winkwink: You must be more business savy than them I suppose

didn't look at yours,wasnt directing it at you...This is Drops' time to shine :glugglug

you got the 30 minute free trial thing going on (then $5.99 for 3 days) but at least I could read your cross-sells, they were 4 day free trials (not one day for $10) and you weren't signing the surfer up to the same site twice!

agreed,his is in a bright ass box that you can read AND he isnt charging two high priced ass sites...One is 4.95/month and the other is like $35

:1orglaugh

Look at the other programs sites.. They all pretty much cross sale into their own program!

I don't need to spend my time defending this anymore.. All you guys that want to get on the slam wagon.. be my guest...

I got some money to make..

even I wouldnt touch this shit with a 10 foot pole..hire Johnny Cochran

but for how long.....

:1orglaugh

At least your smart enough to know when to bail..

Comparing long-standing programs to your fly-by-night operation is laughable. I've said it before, FlashCash does not care about the increased refund/cb rate from crossbills, because they have tens of thousands of existing rebills.

Neither do they charge $120 for a month's worth of access. And they have more plugins (they MAY even have original content! gasp) than all of you. It's a shame Epoch doesn't do any practical review of your sites, but not to worry someone else (VISA) will.

the text color can't be changed? ha ha ha. well, there ya go guys... full on "fuck-the-surfer" mode here.

I called Epoch support.. They forced the text change.. So quit your bitchin and start making more money than you are now.:thumbsup

Now get your crosssale prices lowered and I won't kick your ass :1orglaugh

you can bring all you got bro.. I can take it.. and give it right back..:thumbsup

you're still signing up surfers to the same site twice

explain that one dumbass

that's old news... had it fixed

but thanks for keeping up.


:321GFY

so glad you're paying attention...

what sites do you have?

profitable ones

but unlike the rest of y'all I don't whore myself on this board

:)

ah. well good for you.

I know you're going to do what you're going to do regardless

And there's worse people than you

I'm just doing my little bit fighting for the consumer

:)

thanks for the pop up hell with ActiveX dialers.

:321GFY

It's a kick ass money maker!! Drops was afraid we was gonna put him outta bizz LOL J/K

It does make the money, and so far we have not seen any charge backs either!!:thumbsup