PXN

Wouldn't it be better to make B of Montreal the default bank. Haven't we learn anything about offshore bank from epass?

Chris

I'll shoot you an email right now

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Tempest

Maybe I don't understand what you're asking them but why would they go check out a competitor for you?

Kenny B!

I haven't gone to their offices but it's not too far from me so I can pop in. I know the building, I had an office in the building next door way back in 1995 so it is an office and not a PO box that's for sure.

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PXN

I'm not asking Paxum to check out AlertPay. I'm asking Kenny B to verify for us to see if AlertPay looks legit.

Chris

In my personal opinion what happened with epassporte has nothing to do with it being an international bank.

We only send cards to verified users and we 100% do not mess with any sorts of gambling.

Also we are not hollywood guys trying to produce movies

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Ah.. Sorry.. For some reason I thought the question was to Paxum.. Doh!

Serge Litehead

just to be clear, there are no limitations on P2B transfers?

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CDSmith

You're thinking of Paxil

It's an anti depressant, which is likely selling like hotcakes throughout the adult industry right now.

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PXN

LOL, I'll give you credit for that.

Reply to your email.

Chris

Yup no limitations for p2b transfers for VERIFIED members (uploading one form of ID )

only limits we give are on unverified accounts

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How about i change our tagline to Paxum - Epassporte got you down? Try PAXUM!

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That would be catchy. haha

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Shap, nice icon. Burj Al Arab is pretty sweet, have you been?

Mike

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I've been in contact with Octav and will meet with him next week, let's see where this goes...

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Who's Octav?

And don't forget to check out the AlertPay location, even better send us a snapshot of the place if you can with your cellphone.

MobiusMike

Chris:

Thanks for the timely response!

So just for some further clarification:

1) Choice Bank of Belize - cards are issued using their charter w/Mastercard and administered by Metavante then? (plastic issuance, customer support, et al)?

2) To clarify the funds storage method, funds stored at the wallet are at Montreal Bank and funds to be made available to individual cardholders are pushed to Choice Bank of Belize into the Paxum, Inc. account. So a daily sweep would occur from the wallet to Choice Bank of all funds requested released to the card product daily?

Balances at both the wallet and the card are maintained by Paxum's internal systems. At no time is there a report to either financial institution of the value of individual wallets or funds available to cardholders via the card product? There's simple a "gross balance" at each account representing the value of the wallets and the cards?

3) Can you give us more information on how the KYC is handled? Is that transmitted to the bank prior to card issuance for verification or is Paxum the verifying entity? If Paxum is the verifying entity, how does the bank conduct its due diligence to ensure compliance prior to issuing the Mastercard product?

Are the cards issued directly to the individual program participants by the bank/platform? Or is Paxum handling card issuance directly? In either event, once KYC is complete, is the card embossed with the owner name and magstriped with cardholder detail or is it a generic?

4) Just to clarify, transfers that occur between affiliate programs and webmasters (as an example) are done internal to Paxum's operating systems and are in effect an internal wallet to wallet transfer. Limits and controls on these transactions or internal to your network. Funds availability demands to the cards are pushed from the "wallet" account to the "card" account (Paxum, Inc), and individual cards can access their balances (up to $2500 per day) based on a funding report you provide the platform that essentially says: "Card X for Paxum, Inc. has a total available draw down of, say $7,000 with a daily limit of $2,500."

5) There is a .pdf of the CBB (Central Bank of Belize) guidelines regarding AML and Combating Financial Terrorism available. I would assume that Paxum is adhering to these based on that statement.

6) Thank you for that answer. The cards are not individual accounts, but are attached to the Paxum, Inc. account as the owner of the deposit then based on your response. Choice Bank is, of course, not subject to the FDIC but the CBB does utilize the U.S. Treasure OFAC (Office of Foreign Asset Control) "best practices" concerning money transfer businesses according the documentation reference above. Are these transactions subject to that scrutiny since all transfers are done internal to Paxum's system and all funds are held by one entity, Paxum?

7) & 8) Thank your for clarifying that the bank (and I assume the card platform) know the nature of the client base and are only restricting gambling. With regards to your statement, yes, an initial assessment by the bank and Mastercard would have been necessary to approve the launch of the service. A comprehensive published audit of the company's operations, risk management and financial strength on an annual or, better yet, a semi-annual basis would seem to be a prudent step since Paxum, if working properly would be holding a significant amount of 3rd party funds for your clients.

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Im sure he will be with a different company in a couple weeks.

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Ouch. That hurt.

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As stated in many threads - Octav is the owner.

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Denis_SC

If you convince all major sponsors to start using you then sign me up

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Time to sell the sponsors to get this baby flyin

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Provided these guys and the company checks out clean, absolutely. Talking to a lot of sponsors lately and a lot of obscure payment programs pops up.

I signed up and verified the acct, was pretty painless.

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Mobius im getting your ansswers together now

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1) Choice Bank of Belize - cards are issued using their charter w/Mastercard and administered by Metavante then? (plastic issuance, customer support, et al)?

No, Choice bank is the issuing bank only. We take care at paxum of the network integration API with the MC network through approved gateway providers, customer service is done by Paxum as well. Plastic printing is done by a third party MC accredited company.

2) To clarify the funds storage method, funds stored at the wallet are at Montreal Bank and funds to be made available to individual cardholders are pushed to Choice Bank of Belize into the Paxum, Inc. account. So a daily sweep would occur from the wallet to Choice Bank of all funds requested released to the card product daily?

Balances at both the wallet and the card are maintained by Paxum's internal systems. At no time is there a report to either financial institution of the value of individual wallets or funds available to cardholders via the card product? There's simple a "gross balance" at each account representing the value of the wallets and the cards?


no, all funds on cards are deposited in real time on the cards from your ewallet to the card account. you do not have to worry about how our internal transfers take place between us and the bank, your money is instant. The bank knows at all times along with MC how much money is on the card as the card provided is a FULL mastercard with an individual account associated (invisible to the user) but once the money is deposited on the card it leaves our wallet and we no longer have access to it unless you transfer it back from the card to the ewallet account.

3) Can you give us more information on how the KYC is handled? Is that transmitted to the bank prior to card issuance for verification or is Paxum the verifying entity? If Paxum is the verifying entity, how does the bank conduct its due diligence to ensure compliance prior to issuing the Mastercard product?

MC does the compliance through automated ID number screening and manual on a case by case if needed. Paxum does the DUE diligence by hand to all accounts prior to issuing a card.

Are the cards issued directly to the individual program participants by the bank/platform? Or is Paxum handling card issuance directly? In either event, once KYC is complete, is the card embossed with the owner name and magstriped with cardholder detail or is it a generic?

Paxum is handling the card issuance directly as we have a FULL MC license. we are not some resellers of some bank cards. it is a full MC card from PAXUM Inc. and it has the card number and name embossed with the ownerss name. It is again a full MC just like the ones issued by your local chartered bank, it is NOT an electronic crippled card.

4) Just to clarify, transfers that occur between affiliate programs and webmasters (as an example) are done internal to Paxum's operating systems and are in effect an internal wallet to wallet transfer. Limits and controls on these transactions or internal to your network. Funds availability demands to the cards are pushed from the "wallet" account to the "card" account (Paxum, Inc), and individual cards can access their balances (up to $2500 per day) based on a funding report you provide the platform that essentially says: "Card X for Paxum, Inc. has a total available draw down of, say $7,000 with a daily limit of $2,500."


transfers that occur inside the ewallet are managed by Paxum limits internally. Transfer and funds on MC are managed by Master Card and the limits are imposed and enforced by MC. each card is a FULL account with MC meaning that the money is deposited on the card and sits on the card. As per MC imposed limits you can have a maximum balance of $10,000.00 at any given time on the card and $2500 limit per day for withdawals/depostis/transfers/etc. if you make a transaction every day you will withdraw for example 30 days times 2500.00 per day for $75k a month.



5) There is a .pdf of the CBB (Central Bank of Belize) guidelines regarding AML and Combating Financial Terrorism available. I would assume that Paxum is adhering to these based on that statement.

we comply with every law and regulation imposed of course. if you plan to commit fraud or to use the card for any illegal activity we kindly ask you not to use the card. By asking all those technical/legal questions I hope you are not trying to circumvent the law or abuse the system in any way.

6) Thank you for that answer. The cards are not individual accounts, but are attached to the Paxum, Inc. account as the owner of the deposit then based on your response. Choice Bank is, of course, not subject to the FDIC but the CBB does utilize the U.S. Treasure OFAC (Office of Foreign Asset Control) "best practices" concerning money transfer businesses according the documentation reference above. Are these transactions subject to that scrutiny since all transfers are done internal to Paxum's system and all funds are held by one entity, Paxum?


As per my answer above, we comply with all regulations imposed by MC for the card part of paxum and by for the ewallet part to our own internal rules set up by either Canadian or international law. Once again without being rude but we will not disclose those internal rules and flags raised in detail as not to help in any way people trying to circumvent or abuse the system. If you are legit and try to use the cards you do not have to worry about all those. if you plan to commit any criminal activity or anything wrong be sure we will comply with all law enforcement agencies and will not cover you in any way. Once again dont use Paxum if you try to do anything illegal (fraud, gambling, terrorism, money laundering, etc) as we will close down your account and share the information with the authorities if needed. we have 0 tollerance for illegal activity.



7) & 8) Thank your for clarifying that the bank (and I assume the card platform) know the nature of the client base and are only restricting gambling. With regards to your statement, yes, an initial assessment by the bank and Mastercard would have been necessary to approve the launch of the service. A comprehensive published audit of the company's operations, risk management and financial strength on an annual or, better yet, a semi-annual basis would seem to be a prudent step since Paxum, if working properly would be holding a significant amount of 3rd party funds for your clients.

unfortunately we cannot make public our audits in any way. we are a privately held company and there are only few people having access to that for privacy reasons. among them are the accountants and lawyers that work for us along with the investors backing the project financially. But you will understand that we cannot disclose those audits as it involves numbers that are not to be public.

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there are also a lot of companys that use PO Boxes for a reason other than what u just stated above

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Yngwie

That was uncalled for. This is only the 2nd company I've worked for as a full time thing in the last 13 years. nevertheless, by the time I noticed all the questions they were already answered so there would be no point repeated what was said.

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Yngwie

I meant "there would have been no point repeating what was already said"

Figured that I'd fix that.

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spunky99

does the bank of montreal know exactly what is being done and that there is adult involved?

my dealings with bmo havent been overly friendly when they found out i worked in adult.

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Yes, the bank is fully aware and we are allowed to do adult transactions. The only limitation that we have ,and we will close accounts that deal with this right away, is GAMBLING. Do not touch that under any circumstance with paxum accounts/cards.

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Chosen

Yngwie, I'd like to load my Paxum account with ePassporte personal wallet funds.
Is it possible?

Yngwie

I don't think that is possible to be honest. Wallet $, from what I remember with epass can only be transferred to your VV or to another epass account. (I think)

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Yngwie, it also can be withdrawn via ACH.
I mean non standart operation, for example I'm sending someone from Paxum my ePassporte wallet money, then he withdraw it via ACH to the bank and once he gets the money he will credit that amount to my Paxum account.
I'm kinda tired waiting wire from ePass, and I cannot withdraw money via ACH because I'm not from US.

lagcam

Alertpay are legit. We used them during 2008 before they pulled out of adult and they paid us whenever we wanted to be paid. They were not new then, and it is now 2 years later.

Although they are rumoured to be adult friendly again, that is not actually the fact yet. They have all adult applications "on hold" still for the moment.

About Paxum, unless documents are required to be uploaded via secure connection on their own website, then do not submit documents.

Under no circumstances email them, blacked out or not to a guy just flying a sig.

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LOL, if they accept an arrangement like that, they are not complying with anti money laundring laws and will be out of business in an instant.

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pocketkangaroo

Big difference in an affiliate program and financial institution.

CPimp

I don't like the $45 fee for these damn cards. I think maybe some incentive would be in order if the industry as a whole should move to Paxum... or any other company for that matter. We just got fucked out of millions of dollars...

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Dear paxum

I agree the fee for mc should be less, now if you really want to grab the entire adult industry and jump start your business you should broker a deal with sponsors so if they pay using your method then any of their affiliates they sign up to paxum get free cards. In other words if you want our business invest the mc card fee yourself by giving sponsors fee waived for new accounts. You might go in the red but you will make the small mc card investment in no time. Think about it as marketing investment.

Also speaking of marketing, what about custom mc cards where we have the option to select different designs? My bank offers this and its quite cool...

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Oh seriously....you think the cards are too expensive and then you want them to give a choice of fucking designs? Unbelievable.

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You are unbelievable who obviously can't comprehend a good idea. Next time I will break it down, for the mentally handicap ;)

Part #1 is idea A (how to get many sponsors to pay by paxum, also called an incentive)
Part #2 is idea B (how to offer something extra to clients, also called additional services for an extra fee)

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can i use my card to purchase a big screen tv?

facialfreak

I took a good week to weigh the pros and cons of various epass 'alternatives' ...

I phoned each of them ... I emailed them ... and I looked for whatever I could find in the media about each of the 4 companies on my short list.

When I had compiled all my data, ALERTPAY finished way out front.

Verifying my business account was painless, and thus far I have received a half dozen payments, made a couple payments, and successfully unloaded funds to my business bank account. All without any problems at all!

AlertPay ... I think you have a new long term business client!

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lagcam

Thanks for the lesson dear, but it doesn't change what you wrote, and how stupid it was and here is a little lesson for you.... when you are trying to sell your writing services, you should probably avoid writing crap (It is not a good advert for your services which I am sure are better than this )

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Seriously, I would never trust anything operated by people in Montreal.

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Dreamteam

Well it seems they don't offer debit cards at all so ALERTPAY no good

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Dreamteam

And why is that?

Quence

what the fuck am i reading?

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100 montreal po boxes.