Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17533050)

The Rothschild bit does but the build up is all over. I'd guess something closer to home and blamed on "homegrown rightwing tea party"..


Risk of small-scale attacks by al-Qaeda and its allies is rising, officials say

By Peter Finn
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 22, 2010; 10:50 PM



Al-Qaeda and its allies are likely to attempt small-scale, less sophisticated terrorist attacks in the United States, senior Obama administration officials said Wednesday, noting that it's extremely difficult to detect such threats in advance.

"Unlike large-scale, coordinated, catastrophic attacks, executing smaller-scale attacks requires less planning and fewer pre-operational steps," said Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, testifying before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. "Accordingly, there are fewer opportunities to detect such an attack before it occurs."

Terrorism experts have puzzled over al-Qaeda's apparent unwillingness after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to use car bombs, improvised explosives and small arms to conduct assaults in the United States. The group appeared fixated on orchestrating another dramatic mass-casualty event, such as the simultaneous downing of several commercial airliners.

Indeed, attacks inspired by al-Qaeda in Madrid in 2004 and London in 2005 involved multiple, coordinated bombings targeting mass-transit systems.

But the risk of a single-target bombing or an attack by a lone gunman has increased, officials say, with the rise of al-Qaeda-affiliated groups in the tribal areas of Pakistan, in Yemen and in Somalia, and with the emergence of radicalized Americans inspired by the ideology of violent jihad.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...203807_pf.html


US Congress warned of home-grown terrorism threat

Al-Qaeda and its allies are likely to attempt small-scale, less sophisticated terrorist attacks in the United States, senior Obama administration officials said Wednesday, noting that it?s extremely difficult to detect such threats in advance.

?Unlike large-scale, coordinated, catastrophic attacks, executing smaller-scale attacks requires less planning and fewer pre-operational steps,? said Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, testifying before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. ?Accordingly, there are fewer opportunities to detect such an attack before it occurs.?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11392083


?He has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he is a leader who can command confidence and, short of a 9/11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can?t think of how he could do that.?
http://www.infowars.com/top-clinton-...an-save-obama/


Even tonights CSI was all about "homegrown terrorists" and it's too be continued..

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17533746)

Why always such extremes with you, Amp? Are you always miserable? Or just when you post here?

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17532929)

Muslim extremists aren't the sharpest tools in the drawer. They don't live in reality either. I wonder of Amputate was purposely trying to get a rise out of people by the title of this thread. If not, it's ironic that slutboat is the one to call him out on his sanity.

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 17531466)

Folk in parts of America believe it was Muslims with box-cutters and a guy in a cave. Outside of USA/Europe it is commonly believed that it was an Inside Job with Controlled Demolitions. A lot is down to what the country's media tell their people.

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17535784)

Facing reality is the first step to dealing with reality.

Originally Posted by cwd (Post 17535837)

but in the US we have freedom of the press, free from corporate and govt. influence. plus our networks assure us that they are fair and balanced.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535881)

Why would Bush or Clinton or whoever supposedly conspired not just get 20 guys to crash the planes?

I mean look, ALL of the theories out there would require hundreds or thousands of people to be perfectly 100% complicit and secret for the rest of their lives. Not to mention some of them require technical accomplishments not possible.

How can an intelligent person not think it's even a BIT far fetched? Why not get 20 emotional retards to do it? I mean seriously, WHY NOT just get 20 assholes to do it? Please dont say you couldnt trust 20 people to do it, so instead they got thousands. Please.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535881)

Why would Bush or Clinton or whoever supposedly conspired not just get 20 guys to crash the planes?

I mean look, ALL of the theories out there would require hundreds or thousands of people to be perfectly 100% complicit and secret for the rest of their lives. Not to mention some of them require technical accomplishments not possible.

How can an intelligent person not think it's even a BIT far fetched? Why not get 20 emotional retards to do it? I mean seriously, WHY NOT just get 20 assholes to do it? Please dont say you couldnt trust 20 people to do it, so instead they got thousands. Please.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535945)

It's so easy.. that it's sophistry.

I will say that the lack of attention given to the terror warnings by Bush is criminal negligence to the umpteenth degree. Someone might even convince me that it was allowed to happen with the right documents and smoking gun memos or something. But planting explosives? crashing planes? Editing video's while it's LIVE on television? Faking phone calls from the plane and impersonating loved ones saying goodbye?
Please.


I'm not saying "dont even ask questions". I'm saying be intellectually honest with your questions and reading of answers. WHY would you not just get 20 assholes to fly planes into these buildings? Why?

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535981)

As I say, I'd be more inclined to believe it was ALLOWED to happen whether or not a word was whispered years priior or whatever (I alread know it WAS allowed to happen due to Bush's idiot people ignoring direct warnings!). But these damn theories about explosives, and mystery items being dropped by satellites and live editing of live tv? That stuff has got to be thrown out entirely. It's just beyond absurd.

To me it's like having enough evidence already, but trying to prove satan posessed someone too. It's too far fetched. When you're winning, you stop talking.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535981)

When you're winning, you stop talking.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535945)

It's so easy.. that it's sophistry.

I will say that the lack of attention given to the terror warnings by Bush is criminal negligence to the umpteenth degree. Someone might even convince me that it was allowed to happen with the right documents and smoking gun memos or something. But planting explosives? crashing planes? Editing video's while it's LIVE on television? Faking phone calls from the plane and impersonating loved ones saying goodbye?
Please.


I'm not saying "dont even ask questions". I'm saying be intellectually honest with your questions and reading of answers. WHY would you not just get 20 assholes to fly planes into these buildings? Why?

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17536038)

Well, I recall seeing a documentary on the run up to the US involvment in WW2 that showed pretty clearly in documented radio calls that we knew the Japanese fleet had launched long range bombers and escorts.

The US was not going to get into it until we were attacked. And we were attacked and we then got involved.

Now I dont think the British painted up some planes to look like Japanese planes, but they were utterly desperate for the US to do more than send them hardware across the atlantic. So what if someone tried saying that the british painted red dots and it was actually them who bombed us? They'd say stfu. But if you show them the internal documents from the radio man in pearl harbour asking washington for direction re: incoming bombers, people will believe it.

Few people will even pay attention to the story if the preceeding 1000 stories are all about crazy impossible theories.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17536054)

I dont know about emergency drills, and I would have no problem with an entire expose on the topic on live tv. I dont want to shut down any investigation. I'm only saying lets not waste effort on things that will never fly.

There was a video posted here before 9/11 this year and part of it was saying that someone LIVE edited a shot of the WTC because there was cloudiness in the background, whereas in previous views there was buildings. Well, if you ever look at the actual footage from 9/11/01, the fog was thick over the water and some of the views from higher up featuered the foggy background, and other views from lower showed the buildings. Debunked simply by watching the real footage. Yet someone actually used time and effort and tried to convince people it HAD TO BE edited live.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17536063)

The point of my example was to show if someone tried to make impossible theories, it would ONLY serve to cloud things. Not clear them.

Originally Posted by wig (Post 17536084)

Or, you could take Hanlon's Razor...

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17536074)

that is my point, the lid coming off any sort of inside job would be bad for everybody, especially the government.

one couldn't erase a reality, there would be distraction, or the easiest way it seems, cloud fact and fiction so much no one cares anymore

Originally Posted by wig (Post 17536174)

Do you know how we know that the Bush administration was not in on the attack?

It worked.












tired joke, but couldn't resist.

Originally Posted by alexchechs (Post 17535860)

One day the truth will come out and history will be re-written. Until that day all we can do is speculate.

Either way it was a very tragic event and changed the role and credibility of the US in international politics forever.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17535981)

(I alread know it WAS allowed to happen due to Bush's idiot people ignoring direct warnings!).
.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 17535901)

i agree that it was inside job....to get oil...throw fear and make people think that the war is right...

it's easy.....