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Odysseus · 09-26-2010, 12:23 PM

As can be seen only a few affiliate programs who are concerned for their webmasters, have added payouts to Payoneer or another fast payments solutions. Most others don't worrying about it and to waiting for something. It should not be so..

I think a webmasters who runs a multiniche sites and work with 100's small affiliate programs - understand this situation. (wires and checks is not a good idea..)

In this situation, I see only one solution - to work with several large companies with wire and with small programs that offer an alternative fast methods of payments (not check or wire). This will help to more precisely control the flow of profits.

Yngwie · 09-26-2010, 12:26 PM

Sponsors should add http://www.paxum.com as a payout option.

Odysseus · 09-26-2010, 12:33 PM

In any case Epassporte was best.. But time passes, we need something to solve.

Odysseus · 09-26-2010, 12:34 PM

How long paxum.com in biz?

XX_RydeR · 09-26-2010, 12:42 PM

CashX is a real alternative to ePassporte.

Many more features and options than ePass ever had and we do not rely on just a single bank.

Odysseus · 09-26-2010, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XX_RydeR

CashX is a real alternative to ePassporte.

Many more features and options than ePass ever had and we do not rely on just a single bank.

How long You in biz?
Where are your company from?

willwank · 09-26-2010, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XX_RydeR

CashX is a real alternative to ePassporte.

Many more features and options than ePass ever had and we do not rely on just a single bank.

CashX might be an alternative but I still have some question re what kind of mastercard this is? If it is one of those reloadable gift/travel cards I wouldn't waste my time on them. I have one issued by a major US mainstream affiliate program and the card is limited at best. Gets declined 1/3 of the time. My pizza guy:nope, paying my Rogers bill:nope, renewing my CAA membership:nope, paypass at Tim Hortons:nope, Moniker:Nope, Skype:nope. I could go on and on.

OneWhoKnows · 09-26-2010, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XX_RydeR

CashX is a real alternative to ePassporte.

Many more features and options than ePass ever had and we do not rely on just a single bank.

Rydz, my old friend! Working for CashX now?

martinsc · 09-26-2010, 01:03 PM

I miss epass already....

HomerSimpson · 09-26-2010, 01:06 PM

CashX looks like a good ePassporte replacement candidate for me...

Odysseus · 09-26-2010, 01:12 PM

Withdraw Funds:
paxum.com - International ATM Withdrawal $2.00
cashx.com - ATM withdrawal $3.95

Chris · 09-26-2010, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odysseus

Withdraw Funds:
paxum.com - International ATM Withdrawal $2.00
cashx.com - ATM withdrawal $3.95

Paxum.com - Real International Mastercard

XX_RydeR · 09-26-2010, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odysseus

How long You in biz?
Where are your company from?

CashX is a Canadian Registered Corporation founded in 2006

And just for your information,

CashX is a registered Money Services Business (MSB) in Canada and United States of America.

Quote:

Originally Posted by willwank

CashX might be an alternative but I still have some question re what kind of mastercard this is? If it is one of those reloadable gift/travel cards I wouldn't waste my time on them. I have one issued by a major US mainstream affiliate program and the card is limited at best. Gets declined 1/3 of the time. My pizza guy:nope, paying my Rogers bill:nope, renewing my CAA membership:nope, paypass at Tim Hortons:nope, Moniker:Nope, Skype:nope. I could go on and on.

We're adding many different card types. Shoot me an e-mail and let me know what is interesting to you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows

Rydz, my old friend! Working for CashX now?

Hey hey, long time no see buddy! I'll catch you up on ICQ Monday if you'll be around.

Unlimited · 09-26-2010, 03:19 PM

bump for alternatives

Jarmusch · 09-26-2010, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odysseus

Withdraw Funds:
paxum.com - International ATM Withdrawal $2.00
cashx.com - ATM withdrawal $3.95

On the other hand...

paxum.com - Funds Withdrawal From Current Account by Wire $50.00
cashx.com - Bank Wire $20.00

Si · 09-26-2010, 03:43 PM

CashX.com Prepaid mastercard FREE for LIFE

Paxum.com $44.95 PER YEAR

CashX.com uses proper banks, paxum uses the same belize bank as payoneer.

CashX without a doubt

mrsmut · 09-26-2010, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

CashX.com uses proper banks, paxum uses the same belize bank as payoneer.

I doubt it, SKNAB is not a Belize bank, i don't know which bank does Paxum use, but i doubt it's the same.

willwank · 09-26-2010, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

CashX.com Prepaid mastercard FREE for LIFE

You probably get what you pay for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

Paxum.com $44.95 PER YEAR

You can't afford 45 bucks/year for a proper card?

Rui · 09-26-2010, 04:04 PM

LOL @ the "alternatives"!

icymelon · 09-26-2010, 04:04 PM

I like cashx and I'm gonna give it a try

JenniDahling · 09-26-2010, 04:07 PM

www.AlertPay.com ping me on ICQ and I can put you in direct contact with them.

Si · 09-26-2010, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsmut

I doubt it, SKNAB is not a Belize bank, i don't know which bank does Paxum use, but i doubt it's the same.

PAXUM and PAYONEER use the same bank. Nobody mentioned SKNANBABlablah or whatever the epass bank is called.

WillWank,

Why pay $45 per year for a prepaid mastercard? My canadian bank charges me $28 per year for my whole bank account.

My UK bank is free for life, and that includes a visa debit card. as long as I have money in there, my card is free.

Same as CashX

I admit CashX has some other fees. but $45 for a card every year is fucked.

wolfshade · 09-26-2010, 04:59 PM

Boy, when brains were handed out you all stood last in line?

First: You are running into a situation half cocked. That spells disaster waiting to happen all over again.

Second: Most likely that's exactly the reason why the major sponsors aren't switching head over heels. They wait it out, watch what will happen in the coming weeks and then make a decision.

Fact: You have no idea what really went down at Epass between them, the bank and VISA

Fact: For all you know this could be the start of something happening to a lot of other players. It's just as plausible that it will never happen, but the fact remains at this point you(And those large sponsors) do NOT know.

So before you run of to the next service that waves a card in your face. Why not wait a little, gather the facts, watch the Epass drama unfold, determine the reason and then make an informed decision, less likely to create disaster and drama like this Epass thing.

Settle down, take a deep breath (Breathe in the bag if you have to

) and wait it out.

willwank · 09-26-2010, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

WillWank,

Why pay $45 per year for a prepaid mastercard? My canadian bank charges me $28 per year for my whole bank account.

My UK bank is free for life, and that includes a visa debit card. as long as I have money in there, my card is free.

Same as CashX

I admit CashX has some other fees. but $45 for a card every year is fucked.

Look, the issue here isn't whether or not you have to pay 45 bucks for the card. To get a fully fledged international MC from CashX you will probably have to pay a yearly fee too. None of this matters if none of the "wannabe's" can convince sponsors that they have their shit together and can offer a safe, secure and a trustworthy service that works for the adult industry. Personally I want to see 2 or perhaps 3 good alternatives, why not CashX if they checks out good.

Si · 09-26-2010, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willwank

Look, the issue here isn't whether or not you have to pay 45 bucks for the card. To get a fully fledged international MC from CashX you will probably have to pay a yearly fee too. None of this matters if none of the "wannabe's" can convince sponsors that they have their shit together and can offer a safe, secure and a trustworthy service that works for the adult industry. Personally I want to see 2 or perhaps 3 good alternatives, why not CashX if they checks out good.

Agreed,

I just don't trust the payoneer and paxum soloutions. And I don't like the set-up either.

I'm sure I read paxum is using Choice Bank (something they seem to be hiding), the same bank as Payoneer. Which is in belize. If anything happens to that bank everyone using payoneer and paxum will be screwed. chosing them 2 alone would be a very bad move.

I like the looks of OKPay, CashX and Alert Pay.

All 3 very different companies. But more solid looking companies.

Is paxum covered by any major financial laws or insurances? CashX and OKPay are according to their websites.

fatfoo · 09-26-2010, 05:53 PM

Your solution makes sense. There must be alternative payment methods.

Si · 09-26-2010, 05:59 PM

I was wrong about OKPay, it doesn't mention on their website what they are covered by other than a reserve fund.

I'm sure I read somewhere they are insured by certain government insurances somewhere though. Will have to look into that.

One thing I would like to mention while we are talking alternatives is,

All the alternatives are mastercard based and there is quite a few of them. Ironic? I think not. Visa always seems to be a fucker to deal with in certain cases.

Klen · 09-26-2010, 06:02 PM

Even alertpay doesn't have ATM card for withdraw,it support domestic bank transfer,which takes 24 hour and it cost even less then for example atm withdraw on epass.And also you can send money directly with your credit card,which make it zero risk since you dont need to hold money on it.

Steve G · 09-26-2010, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

CashX.com Prepaid mastercard FREE for LIFE

Paxum.com $44.95 PER YEAR

CashX.com uses proper banks, paxum uses the same belize bank as payoneer.

CashX without a doubt

This is not true.
Paxum fee is 44.95 per year
Cash X fee is 2.95 per month or 35.40 per year.

Please explain where did you see that the card is free for life?

Captcha · 09-26-2010, 11:11 PM

bump bump

Odysseus · 09-26-2010, 11:25 PM

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| Would like to remind for webmasters who send traffic to affiliate programs..
| Their owners may still long to brake with the methods of payments.
| While everyone is happy, they are least concerned. (They get their money!)
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will76 · 09-26-2010, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odysseus

As can be seen only a few affiliate programs who are concerned for their webmasters, have added payouts to Payoneer or another fast payments solutions. Most others don't worrying about it and to waiting for something. It should not be so..

I think a webmasters who runs a multiniche sites and work with 100's small affiliate programs - understand this situation. (wires and checks is not a good idea..)

In this situation, I see only one solution - to work with several large companies with wire and with small programs that offer an alternative fast methods of payments (not check or wire). This will help to more precisely control the flow of profits.

I heard Chio the Pirate is making an epass alternative, it should be out soon and will be kick ass!

Davy · 09-27-2010, 01:23 AM

Epass will probably make it through the current woes, but they will be worthless for international customers without a credit card.

Several smaller companies will see an increase in business because of epass.
What the industry needs is a stable, reliable and trustworthy replacement for epassporte, though. All these smaller "replacements" that try to jump in the business are not good enough.

The only company with an already good adoption rate is payoneer. They could replace epassporte easily in the next few months. The only question is if they want all the adult business...

Tempest · 09-27-2010, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

CashX.com uses proper banks, paxum uses the same belize bank as payoneer.

Paxum uses the belize bank for the MC... The wallet is Bank of Montreal in Canada.

CashX - Not sure what banks they use... They won't tell us what banks the wallet money is held in and they've also said something about it being different depending on where you live... In addition, although the site says the MC is from a bank in California, they've also implied that the cards could be different depending on what you want/need... In other words, I have no freakin idea where the money is held. There's also the issue that the MC is a "travel" card.

OkPay - You should check out where the company is registered.. The card is issued by a bank in Cyrpus... You should really read the TOS... Scary...

Tempest · 09-27-2010, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

I'm sure I read paxum is using Choice Bank (something they seem to be hiding), the same bank as Payoneer.

Oh good lord.. You've got to be kidding right? They've answered the question every tme it's been asked.. They haven't been hiding anything.

Have you asked CashX what bank the wallet money is held in? I did and got a "we have many banking relationships" answer.. So no idea.

Sextember · 09-27-2010, 08:57 AM

SuperDuperCards is the real good alternative. For every dollar you put onto your SuperDuperAccount(tm) we double your balance!
No more worries about security... we are backed by the biggest bank in the continent of Antarctica.

Did I say you get a Mastercard as well as a Visa for free for lifetime?

Si · 09-27-2010, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

Oh good lord.. You've got to be kidding right? They've answered the question every tme it's been asked.. They haven't been hiding anything.

Have you asked CashX what bank the wallet money is held in? I did and got a "we have many banking relationships" answer.. So no idea.

I meant on the website. they have confirmed it here though.

We'll see what happens and where this goes.........

CashX · 09-27-2010, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

Oh good lord.. You've got to be kidding right? They've answered the question every tme it's been asked.. They haven't been hiding anything.

Have you asked CashX what bank the wallet money is held in? I did and got a "we have many banking relationships" answer.. So no idea.

We are with BMO as well in Canada.

09-26-2010, 12:23 PM	#1
Odysseus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: www.gfy.com Posts: 745	Still no epassporte alternatives :( Step to biz reorganizations.. As can be seen only a few affiliate programs who are concerned for their webmasters, have added payouts to Payoneer or another fast payments solutions. Most others don't worrying about it and to waiting for something. It should not be so.. I think a webmasters who runs a multiniche sites and work with 100's small affiliate programs - understand this situation. (wires and checks is not a good idea..) In this situation, I see only one solution - to work with several large companies with wire and with small programs that offer an alternative fast methods of payments (not check or wire). This will help to more precisely control the flow of profits.

09-26-2010, 12:26 PM	#2
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	Sponsors should add http://www.paxum.com as a payout option. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

09-26-2010, 12:42 PM	#5
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09-26-2010, 12:33 PM	#3
Odysseus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: www.gfy.com Posts: 745	In any case Epassporte was best.. But time passes, we need something to solve.

09-26-2010, 12:34 PM	#4
Odysseus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: www.gfy.com Posts: 745	How long paxum.com in biz?

09-26-2010, 01:12 PM	#11
Odysseus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: www.gfy.com Posts: 745	Withdraw Funds: paxum.com - International ATM Withdrawal $2.00 cashx.com - ATM withdrawal $3.95

09-26-2010, 03:19 PM	#14
Unlimited Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,301	bump for alternatives

09-26-2010, 03:43 PM	#16
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	CashX.com Prepaid mastercard FREE for LIFE Paxum.com $44.95 PER YEAR CashX.com uses proper banks, paxum uses the same belize bank as payoneer. CashX without a doubt

09-26-2010, 04:04 PM	#19
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	LOL @ the "alternatives"!

09-26-2010, 04:04 PM	#20
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09-26-2010, 04:07 PM	#21
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09-26-2010, 04:59 PM	#23
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	Boy, when brains were handed out you all stood last in line? First: You are running into a situation half cocked. That spells disaster waiting to happen all over again. Second: Most likely that's exactly the reason why the major sponsors aren't switching head over heels. They wait it out, watch what will happen in the coming weeks and then make a decision. Fact: You have no idea what really went down at Epass between them, the bank and VISA Fact: For all you know this could be the start of something happening to a lot of other players. It's just as plausible that it will never happen, but the fact remains at this point you(And those large sponsors) do NOT know. So before you run of to the next service that waves a card in your face. Why not wait a little, gather the facts, watch the Epass drama unfold, determine the reason and then make an informed decision, less likely to create disaster and drama like this Epass thing. Settle down, take a deep breath (Breathe in the bag if you have to ) and wait it out. __________________ Returning soon to a browser near you..............

09-26-2010, 05:53 PM	#26
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09-26-2010, 05:59 PM	#27
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	I was wrong about OKPay, it doesn't mention on their website what they are covered by other than a reserve fund. I'm sure I read somewhere they are insured by certain government insurances somewhere though. Will have to look into that. One thing I would like to mention while we are talking alternatives is, All the alternatives are mastercard based and there is quite a few of them. Ironic? I think not. Visa always seems to be a fucker to deal with in certain cases.

09-26-2010, 06:02 PM	#28
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Even alertpay doesn't have ATM card for withdraw,it support domestic bank transfer,which takes 24 hour and it cost even less then for example atm withdraw on epass.And also you can send money directly with your credit card,which make it zero risk since you dont need to hold money on it.

09-26-2010, 11:11 PM	#30
Captcha Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,375	bump bump

09-26-2010, 11:25 PM	#31
Odysseus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: www.gfy.com Posts: 745	+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------\| \| \| Would like to remind for webmasters who send traffic to affiliate programs.. \| Their owners may still long to brake with the methods of payments. \| While everyone is happy, they are least concerned. (They get their money!) \| +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------\|

09-27-2010, 01:23 AM	#33
Davy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,323	Epass will probably make it through the current woes, but they will be worthless for international customers without a credit card. Several smaller companies will see an increase in business because of epass. What the industry needs is a stable, reliable and trustworthy replacement for epassporte, though. All these smaller "replacements" that try to jump in the business are not good enough. The only company with an already good adoption rate is payoneer. They could replace epassporte easily in the next few months. The only question is if they want all the adult business... __________________ --- ICQ 14-76-98 <-- I don't use this at all

09-27-2010, 08:57 AM	#36
Sextember Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 85	SuperDuperCards is the real good alternative. For every dollar you put onto your SuperDuperAccount(tm) we double your balance! No more worries about security... we are backed by the biggest bank in the continent of Antarctica. Did I say you get a Mastercard as well as a Visa for free for lifetime?