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SallyRand · 09-19-2010, 09:17 AM

Read this and consider how rising taxes will affect you individually as affiliates, webmasters and marketers.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...html?tag=stack

"Sept. 19, 2010
Ben Stein: Raising My Taxes Is a Punishment
Asks: If Raising Taxes Won't Help Economy, Why Am I Being Punished?

"I am a fairly upper income taxpayer. Not anything even remotely close to sports stars or movie stars or financial big boys. But I am above the level Mr. Obama says makes me rich. So, in the midst of a severe recession, I am to have my taxes raised dramatically.

I am not quite sure what my sin is.

I worked for almost every dollar I have, except for a small percentage my parents left me by virtue of hard work and Spartan living, and most of that was taken by the federal estate tax. I have a hell of a lot less than I did before the stock market and real estate market crashes. I didn't get a bailout or any part of a stimulus program, except for traffic jams as the roads in Beverly Hills got worked on for the 10th time in the last 10 years (or so it seems).

I pay my income taxes, and after them and the commissions I pay my agent, I am left with about 35 cents for every dollar I earn.

I own some real estate in California and Idaho and the District of Columbia. Naturally, I pay property tax, supposedly mostly to educate local children. Not far from me, the city of Los Angeles just spent about $600 million to build the most lavish school in America for about 4,000 children. That's my money. Naturally, I had no say in it. My wife and I have no children in public schools and only did for about eighteen months long ago. I still pay my school tax ever year.

I am not asking for any tears. I live a great life, have a fabulous wife, a great son and daughter-in-law, four wonderful, furry dogs and six cats, all adopted. I have more than enough to eat.

But what I don't get is this: There is no known economic theory under which raising my taxes in the midst of a severe recession will help the economy recover. It isn't part of any well known monetarist or Keynesian theory. So if it does no good to raise our taxes, I assume we are being punished.

But for what? I don't own slaves. I employ a lot of people full- and part-time and they are all happy with their pay. When charity calls, I almost always write out a check. I don't have a yacht or ponies or a plane. My wife doesn't wear a tiara. I don't gamble.

What did I do wrong? I know I have often lost my temper with my wife and the cats, but that's not a crime, yet. I tried to be successful, which is what I thought I was supposed to do. When did it turn out that was a crime to be punished? Maybe when the economy recovers, raising my taxes makes sense, but for now, it's just punishment, and I can't figure out what for."

Food for thought from Ben Stein!

Sally.

tony286 · 09-19-2010, 10:29 AM

fighting terrorism costs money going to war costs money. And they are raising his taxes they are putting them back to the rate they were before. If the right thought the bush taxes were the greatest thing since sliced bread they should of made them forever. They didnt do that, their fault. Actually its the cut the deficient they cry about by about 700 billion dollars.

Amputate Your Head · 09-19-2010, 10:33 AM

Big Ben, you were born into slavery just like the rest of us.

you're an intelligent man,.... figure it out.

2012 · 09-19-2010, 10:39 AM

fighting terrorism ...

still looking for bin laden ...

the terrorists won if you {insert here} ...

the terrorists the terrorists oh my god the terrorists ....

more pills please

Vendzilla · 09-19-2010, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286

fighting terrorism costs money going to war costs money. And they are raising his taxes they are putting them back to the rate they were before. If the right thought the bush taxes were the greatest thing since sliced bread they should of made them forever. They didnt do that, their fault. Actually its the cut the deficient they cry about by about 700 billion dollars.

the rate before as you put it came into play during the great depression
In 1925 it was 25%
In 1932 it was raised to 63%
In 1936 it was raised to 79%
It was 4 years later before the Depression ended with WWII
In 1945, because of the cost of the war, it was 91% and stayed there till 1963

We need a government that lives within it's means, if we can't afford war, then pull out. Taxing the rich is stupid, they are the people that employ others.

tony286 · 09-19-2010, 10:40 AM

also I highly doubt Ben pays the full amount because Ben probably has amazing cpa's. Also they got the bulk of the tax cuts, created nothing basically wages have been flatlined forever. My heart bleeds for him.

SallyRand · 09-19-2010, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

the rate before as you put it came into play during the great depression
In 1925 it was 25%
In 1932 it was raised to 63%
In 1936 it was raised to 79%
It was 4 years later before the Depression ended with WWII
In 1945, because of the cost of the war, it was 91% and stayed there till 1963

We need a government that lives within it's means, if we can't afford war, then pull out. Taxing the rich is stupid, they are the people that employ others.

Now you had just better stop trying to make sense or you too will be designated a "Troll" by the Slutboat!

;)

Sally.

Amputate Your Head · 09-19-2010, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286

fighting terrorism costs money going to war costs money. And they are raising his taxes they are putting them back to the rate they were before. If the right thought the bush taxes were the greatest thing since sliced bread they should of made them forever. They didnt do that, their fault. Actually its the cut the deficient they cry about by about 700 billion dollars.

Wrong.

"Fighting terrorism" has as much substance as smoke, but does serve a purpose, and going to/being at war creates massive unrecoverable debt, which strengthens the chains of enslavement. Terrorism, war, media, religion, and debt are the tools used to keep you living in a state of perpetual fear and a functioning unit in the machine.

Do your job, pay your taxes, don't ask questions.

or....

you could open your eyes.

tony286 · 09-19-2010, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand

Now you had just better stop trying to make sense or you too will be designated a "Troll" by the Slutboat!

;)

Sally.

He actually isnt making sense lol

woj · 09-19-2010, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286

fighting terrorism costs money going to war costs money. And they are raising his taxes they are putting them back to the rate they were before. If the right thought the bush taxes were the greatest thing since sliced bread they should of made them forever. They didnt do that, their fault. Actually its the cut the deficient they cry about by about 700 billion dollars.

he isn't really complaining about the tax hike, but more about the timing of it... and he is right, it's rough when your investments and income are down and then to top it off they raise your taxes...

Ethersync · 09-19-2010, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286

He actually isnt making sense lol

What part of what he said does not make sense to you?

Dailydiapers · 09-19-2010, 11:12 AM

I just wish he'd quit the political mouthpiece routine and get the game show started back up. I could stand to Win Ben Stein's Money!

tony286 · 09-19-2010, 11:56 AM

Im on my phone now when i get home i will respond

pOrRiDgE · 09-19-2010, 11:57 AM

Can I have some money please? No? Guess Ill just go away then..

Vendzilla · 09-19-2010, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync

What part of what he said does not make sense to you?

Right now the battle cry from the Obama camp is "I fucked up and the rich have to pay for it, they can generate jobs under a different president"

My point was it was tried before and it didn't work, raising the taxes of the top 1% generates more money, but if the government just spends more, then whats the point?

Vendzilla · 09-19-2010, 12:24 PM

1945 The top tax rate is 91 percent. It will stay at least 88 percent until 1963, when it is lowered to 70 percent. During this time, America will experience the greatest economic boom it had ever known until that time.

http://www.hyperhistory.com/online_n...epression.html

So according to history, lowering the top taxe rate is good for the economy, too bad Barry doesn't study history, or at least american history. He wants the US to be part of the whole euro thingy

MetaMan · 09-19-2010, 12:25 PM

What an idiot.

A) he points of his animals are adopted for attention
B) he mentions yacths and tiaras, as if you can afford them you should be punished.

he is just playing to both sides as media always does. And some of you idiots will always find a way to find a special unerlying meaning. Stand up with your flag and tell the world I AM AMERICAN. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE FAT. I HAVE THE RIGHT NOT TO WORK. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE SELFISH AND WAVE MY FLAG EVEN WHEN MY ECONOMY IS COLLAPSING.

all fat americans GET TOGETHER NOW! MAKE A STAND! walk over to your local mcdonalds that isnt 24 hours and you tell them. THIS IS AMERICA. I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS! I WILL EAT FATTY FOODS 24/7 AND WASTE MY TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE MEANT TO DISTRACT ME FROM THE TRUTH.

good for you americans! by the look of this threads and its posters. your country is RIGHT ON TRACK.

PornMD · 09-19-2010, 01:25 PM

Don't bother Obama, he's golfing.

Deej · 09-19-2010, 01:59 PM

Metaman is Nigerian...

09-19-2010, 09:17 AM	#1
SallyRand So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away! Posts: 3,487	Ben Stein's Money....AND......Your Money! Read this and consider how rising taxes will affect you individually as affiliates, webmasters and marketers. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...html?tag=stack "Sept. 19, 2010 Ben Stein: Raising My Taxes Is a Punishment Asks: If Raising Taxes Won't Help Economy, Why Am I Being Punished? "I am a fairly upper income taxpayer. Not anything even remotely close to sports stars or movie stars or financial big boys. But I am above the level Mr. Obama says makes me rich. So, in the midst of a severe recession, I am to have my taxes raised dramatically. I am not quite sure what my sin is. I worked for almost every dollar I have, except for a small percentage my parents left me by virtue of hard work and Spartan living, and most of that was taken by the federal estate tax. I have a hell of a lot less than I did before the stock market and real estate market crashes. I didn't get a bailout or any part of a stimulus program, except for traffic jams as the roads in Beverly Hills got worked on for the 10th time in the last 10 years (or so it seems). I pay my income taxes, and after them and the commissions I pay my agent, I am left with about 35 cents for every dollar I earn. I own some real estate in California and Idaho and the District of Columbia. Naturally, I pay property tax, supposedly mostly to educate local children. Not far from me, the city of Los Angeles just spent about $600 million to build the most lavish school in America for about 4,000 children. That's my money. Naturally, I had no say in it. My wife and I have no children in public schools and only did for about eighteen months long ago. I still pay my school tax ever year. I am not asking for any tears. I live a great life, have a fabulous wife, a great son and daughter-in-law, four wonderful, furry dogs and six cats, all adopted. I have more than enough to eat. But what I don't get is this: There is no known economic theory under which raising my taxes in the midst of a severe recession will help the economy recover. It isn't part of any well known monetarist or Keynesian theory. So if it does no good to raise our taxes, I assume we are being punished. But for what? I don't own slaves. I employ a lot of people full- and part-time and they are all happy with their pay. When charity calls, I almost always write out a check. I don't have a yacht or ponies or a plane. My wife doesn't wear a tiara. I don't gamble. What did I do wrong? I know I have often lost my temper with my wife and the cats, but that's not a crime, yet. I tried to be successful, which is what I thought I was supposed to do. When did it turn out that was a crime to be punished? Maybe when the economy recovers, raising my taxes makes sense, but for now, it's just punishment, and I can't figure out what for." Food for thought from Ben Stein! Sally. Last edited by SallyRand; 09-19-2010 at 09:24 AM..

09-19-2010, 10:29 AM	#2
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	fighting terrorism costs money going to war costs money. And they are raising his taxes they are putting them back to the rate they were before. If the right thought the bush taxes were the greatest thing since sliced bread they should of made them forever. They didnt do that, their fault. Actually its the cut the deficient they cry about by about 700 billion dollars. Last edited by tony286; 09-19-2010 at 10:32 AM..

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	also I highly doubt Ben pays the full amount because Ben probably has amazing cpa's. Also they got the bulk of the tax cuts, created nothing basically wages have been flatlined forever. My heart bleeds for him.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Im on my phone now when i get home i will respond

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	1945 The top tax rate is 91 percent. It will stay at least 88 percent until 1963, when it is lowered to 70 percent. During this time, America will experience the greatest economic boom it had ever known until that time. http://www.hyperhistory.com/online_n...epression.html So according to history, lowering the top taxe rate is good for the economy, too bad Barry doesn't study history, or at least american history. He wants the US to be part of the whole euro thingy __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	What an idiot. A) he points of his animals are adopted for attention B) he mentions yacths and tiaras, as if you can afford them you should be punished. he is just playing to both sides as media always does. And some of you idiots will always find a way to find a special unerlying meaning. Stand up with your flag and tell the world I AM AMERICAN. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE FAT. I HAVE THE RIGHT NOT TO WORK. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE SELFISH AND WAVE MY FLAG EVEN WHEN MY ECONOMY IS COLLAPSING. all fat americans GET TOGETHER NOW! MAKE A STAND! walk over to your local mcdonalds that isnt 24 hours and you tell them. THIS IS AMERICA. I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS! I WILL EAT FATTY FOODS 24/7 AND WASTE MY TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE MEANT TO DISTRACT ME FROM THE TRUTH. good for you americans! by the look of this threads and its posters. your country is RIGHT ON TRACK.

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