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signupdamnit 09-12-2010 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Ozborn (Post 17494153)
Posted On: 11 Sep 2010 07:10 AM
Hello,

It has come to our attention that you are hosting a fraudulent ‘phish’ web-site at the following URL:
http://www.liloo.tv/featured

You are required to remove the site within next 24 hours in order to prevent any service interruption for liloo.tv domain. If the site is not removed within next 24 hours we will be forced to suspend the domain.

--------------------
Regards,
Marta K.
Customer Support

*Become our fan on Facebook http://facebook.com/namecheap


Alexa

Hold on. They start off claiming "you are hosting a fraudulent ‘phish’ web-site" but you respond by talking about CP? What am I missing? From what I see they didn't claim any CP was on your site until you started talking about it. And did you ever do anything about the "phishing" attempts they were claiming you had. What was going on with that??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing

Quote:

In the field of computer security, phishing is the criminally fraudulent process of attempting to acquire sensitive information such as usernames, passwords and credit card details by masquerading as a trustworthy entity in an electronic communication. Communications purporting to be from popular social web sites, auction sites, online payment processors or IT administrators are commonly used to lure the unsuspecting public. Phishing is typically carried out by e-mail or instant messaging,[1] and it often directs users to enter details at a fake website whose look and feel are almost identical to the legitimate one. Phishing is an example of social engineering techniques used to fool users,[2] and exploits the poor usability of current web security technologies.[3] Attempts to deal with the growing number of reported phishing incidents include legislation, user training, public awareness, and technical security measures.

OneHungLo 09-12-2010 06:16 AM

What sponsors were you pushing? Was it legitimately produced content and not "questionable" content plucked off newsgroups etc?

Sin_Vraal 09-12-2010 06:17 AM

If anyone hasnt figured this out yet...

Namecheap is a bunch of whiny bitches... As stated above... dont use anything but moniker. They are a reseller of enom, and enoms balls shriveled up and died a few years ago.


oh and gluck trying to transfer you suspended domain out like they say they will...5 days and waiting still.


Namecheap...

Porn = no
Spam = no
any site with more than 10k page hits daily = no

dont use them, sooner or later they will fuck you harder than Ibill.

woj 09-12-2010 06:21 AM

wtf? always thought namecheap has their shit together...

signupdamnit 09-12-2010 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17494527)
wtf? always thought namecheap has their shit together...

If he had "phishing" content up and didn't do anything about it within 24 hours then I side with Namecheap. What confuses me is where the CP first came into it.

erooup 09-12-2010 06:30 AM

I never had a problem with namecheap, unlike moniker and godaddy. And if they give people that have "questionable galleries" a hard time, then its fine with me.

Domain Broker 09-12-2010 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17494533)
If he had "phishing" content up and didn't do anything about it within 24 hours then I side with Namecheap. What confuses me is where the CP first came into it.

He already mentioned this on the first page of the thread.

Matyko 09-12-2010 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul (Post 17494256)
You chose to do business in a borderline niche. Now you will need to fight the fight.
Since you're convinced you're 100% covered up from a legal standpoint, lawyer up and fight.
Or just whine on gfy.

Wise words up there. :pimp

Btw I think your tone bad/aggressive in the emails, you would have had better results with a more kind approach.

signupdamnit 09-12-2010 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Broker (Post 17494541)
He already mentioned this on the first page of the thread.

I read the first page again and don't see what you mean.

Quote:

Posted On: 11 Sep 2010 07:10 AM
Hello,

It has come to our attention that you are hosting a fraudulent ?phish? web-site at the following URL:
http://www.liloo.tv/featured

You are required to remove the site within next 24 hours in order to prevent any service interruption for liloo.tv domain. If the site is not removed within next 24 hours we will be forced to suspend the domain.

--------------------
Regards,
Marta K.
Customer Support

*Become our fan on Facebook http://facebook.com/namecheap


Alexa

Quote:

Posted On: 11 Sep 2010 07:39 PM
Hello,

There were no child porn on liloo.tv. We guess, what you are concerned
about are either non nude models or hentai drawings, neither of which
can be categorised as child porn. However we took down all of the
questionable galleries.
Also we will move all our domains to another registrar.

Regards.

On 9/11/10, Marta K. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> It has come to our attention that you are hosting a fraudulent ?phish?
> web-site at the following URL:
> http://www.liloo.tv/featured
>
> You are required to remove the site within next 24 hours in order to prevent
> any service interruption for liloo.tv domain. If the site is not removed
> within next 24 hours we will be forced to suspend the domain.
>
> --------------------
> Regards,
> Marta K.
> Customer Support
>
> *Become our fan on Facebook http://facebook.com/namecheap
>
>
Look at the second quote. It appears that they tell him he has phishing content so he replies talking about CP. It doesn't make sense. That seems to be where the whole CP mess starts. It's as if he thought "phishing" meant CP.

Domain Broker 09-12-2010 06:58 AM

For you blind morons:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...4&postcount=36

signupdamnit 09-12-2010 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Broker (Post 17494584)

Damn dude, no need to be a dick. Besides post 36 is NOT the first page.

2intense 09-12-2010 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17494588)
Damn dude, no need to be a dick. ....

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh i agree with you

Domain Broker 09-12-2010 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17494588)
Damn dude, no need to be a dick. Besides post 36 is NOT the first page.

Back to grade school you go.

http://irritatedtulsan.files.wordpre...d_jumping1.jpg

signupdamnit 09-12-2010 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Broker (Post 17494600)
Back to grade school you go.

Ignore list for you. :upsidedow

seeandsee 09-12-2010 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Broker (Post 17494600)
Back to grade school you go.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_YZFr7IbCKjI/TG...2082292877.png

2intense 09-12-2010 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17494608)
Ignore list for you. :upsidedow

let's do it together :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

selena 09-12-2010 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17494275)
No idea what the content actually was, but if it was legal... it was legal. I don't see how NameCheap could say it was CP without seeing compliance documents or lack of.


:thumbsup

cordoba 09-12-2010 07:34 AM

Non-nude models under 18, as well as hentai, are illegal pretty much everywhere except America now, and both are defined as CP by the United Nations.

Not that I agree with ridiculous definitions made by feminazis, but I guess NameCheap are free to define CP the same way as 90% of the world do. So even if you're not breaking the law in the US or whichever country you reside in/host in, you can't really complain.

But that BJloving asshole is talking with his cock in his mouth saying that teen (18) sites cater for paedos. Even adult friend finder use borderline jailbait pictures on their banners because they know that's what gets the average punter clicking. I wonder if his high moral principles stop him from accepting payments from sponsors who run any teen (18) sites? Or do you in fact take money from buisnesses that 'cater to paedos' (i.e 90% of adult sponsors)?

roly 09-12-2010 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin_Vraal (Post 17494521)
any site with more than 10k page hits daily = no
.

what do you mean by this?

PGR 09-12-2010 08:11 AM

So teen porn = cp? Fucking idiots...

allzorotime 09-12-2010 08:48 AM

I think everybody have to move their domains to another place!

Fabien 09-12-2010 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlsOnYou (Post 17494175)
Great how registrars can just take over sites without proper cause because some idiot employee just feels you're doing something wrong.

Did someone said ADSENSE here

SmokeyTheBear 09-12-2010 09:18 AM

you became hostile way too quick. It is good that namecheap does care about what is hosts. The problem is , right at the point you could have explained things to them properly you got hostile.

I doubt namecheap understands what 2257 is . Try slower next time. and add a little asskissing to it. Also try soft legal threats.

TheDA 09-12-2010 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17494588)
Damn dude, no need to be a dick. Besides post 36 is NOT the first page.

What page is it then?

hahahahahahahahaha.

Thanks for the laugh today.

Ron Bennett 09-12-2010 09:38 AM

Namecheap WEBHOSTING service suspended the domain - big difference!

Not to say a registrar can't suspend a domain it doesn't webhost, but rarely happens - and often when it does, it's typically due to spam and phishing not content per se.

As far as minor art content that involves no real people, no 2257 needed for that, but that's not the issue - it appears Namecheap suspended the site due to phishing allegations...

Why the OP brought up the issue of CP is beyond me, since the suspension warning was related to "phishing", but when he did, that gave Namecheap the perfect, easy way out of the situation; limited options, since alleged CP has to be investigated, and most hosts will err on the side of caution by suspending and reporting.

Ron

u-Bob 09-12-2010 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17494955)
The problem is , right at the point you could have explained things to them properly you got hostile

q f t

mmcfadden 09-12-2010 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 17494992)
Namecheap WEBHOSTING service suspended the domain - big difference!

Not to say a registrar can't suspend a domain it doesn't webhost, but rarely happens - and often when it does, it's typically due to spam and phishing not content per se.

As far as minor art content that involves no real people, no 2257 needed for that, but that's not the issue - it appears Namecheap suspended the site due to phishing allegations...

Why the OP brought up the issue of CP is beyond me, since the suspension warning was related to "phishing", but when he did, that gave Namecheap the perfect, easy way out of the situation; limited options, since alleged CP has to be investigated, and most hosts will err on the side of caution by suspending and reporting.

Ron

Dude, please read this thread again and also the posts...

above...

talking about what you inaccurately concluded in your second paragraph.

Sounds like this registrar sucks balls.

Ron Bennett 09-12-2010 10:08 AM

From what I read, Namecheap webhosting first contacted the OP regarding phishing with no mention of CP nor questionable content. Or did the OP leave out something? Because, from what I'm seeing, to reiterate, the OP brought up those issues first - and not sure why, since Namecheap webhosting was first only concerned about "phishing".

Anyways, regardless, Namecheap and other big name registrar-based webhosting, such as GoDaddy, is usually a bad idea, even more so, for hosting high traffic / adult / controversial websites.

Ron

SallyRand 09-12-2010 10:12 AM

I once, ONCE, mind you, bought a few domains through NameCheap and it was a boondoggle all the way until I transferred them out. Real PAINS IN THE ASS and I will never use them again.

Also I NEVER use hosting provided by the registrar!

Sally.

cherrylula 09-12-2010 10:28 AM

where's the namecheap guy... when I had an issue he was up in my thread pretty fast!

signupdamnit 09-12-2010 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 17495072)
From what I read, Namecheap webhosting first contacted the OP regarding phishing with no mention of CP nor questionable content. Or did the OP leave out something? Because, from what I'm seeing, to reiterate, the OP brought up those issues first - and not sure why, since Namecheap webhosting was first only concerned about "phishing".

Yes he left out some things in the OP.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...4&postcount=36

Quote:

my answer was in regard to email subject which was "[#EYB-678234]: Important: Hosting Child Porn site on liloo.tv"
wtf is "fraudulent ?phish? web-site" i also wanted to ask but i thought i would address main issue first.

mrsmut 09-12-2010 10:46 AM

post your complaint on webhostingtalk.com, domain forum ;-)

just tell your content is 2257 compliant and namecheap ignored it even after you telling them

About the phising site, there is some kind of phising related to child porn, someone hacks a site, uploads a fake CP site that leads to a fake credit card processor and the site is spammed, the scammer gets this way some credit card numbers belonging to pedos, it's the only scam on the net that gets me an smile, a pedo getting his CC drained by a scammer :D

this would explain namecheap talking about a phish site in a ticket about CP

McSpike 09-12-2010 11:21 AM

the fact that hentai is illegal is such a puritan BS it's hard to imagine.

CP laws are there to protect the kids for god's fucking sake! who's the victim in hetai? THE CARTOON? FUCKING MORONS!

Hey! This character is not 18! It's NOT! ILLEGAL!

Got IDs of this cartoon to prove otherwise? No? ILLEGAL!

Fuck off.

20 years ago kids on the beach running naked was a natural thing. Try seeing one today. There is NONE. Every child (even the smallest) wears a swimsuit. It's like an unwritten law. If my kid runs around naked on the beach I almost feel the eyes of other parents thinking how irresponsible I must be. It's the fear pedos may do harm already by looking at a child. Ding! Ding! Ding! Think they don't enjoy the view even with all the beach in swimsuits. Fucking BS how far this all went. Pedos everywhere. Fucking panic and fucking fear and more so, fucking puritan minds!

spazlabz 09-12-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlsOnYou (Post 17494175)
Great how registrars can just take over sites without proper cause because some idiot employee just feels you're doing something wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17494275)
No idea what the content actually was, but if it was legal... it was legal. I don't see how NameCheap could say it was CP without seeing compliance documents or lack of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains (Post 17494318)
legal content is legal content period

:2 cents::thumbsup

DBS.US 09-12-2010 01:32 PM

It has come to our attention that you are hosting a fraudulent ?phish? web-site on liloo.tv
There were no child porn on liloo.tv

WTF:disgust

Carmen80 09-12-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjlover (Post 17494264)
liar, you did made this thread, in case you are so stupid that you have forgoten making this thread, this is it. It did have something close to CP otherwise YOU WOULDNT HAVE TAKEN DOWN THE "QUESTIONABLE" GALLERIES

So as well as admiting catering to pedos, you are also a liar. So nothing you say can be believed




More lies

You yourself called it questionable, NOT namecheap. I repeat You called it questionable, not them.

Now die you filthy third world shit cunt :thumbsup

You are a fucking retarded faggot. All porn sites uses retouched images, and every single TGP site does it. How fucking ignorant are you?

If the content is 2257 compliant then they have no right to suspend it.

--

TS is not alone. I had my domain suspended a while back because of takedown notices, and this was for non-adult content. These fucking assholes do anything they want without listening to you, and their support is a bunch of cunts.

MetaMan 09-12-2010 01:50 PM

Man most of you are complete fucking idiots. it is hilarious. :1orglaugh

mgtarheels 09-12-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McSpike (Post 17495294)
the fact that hentai is illegal is such a puritan BS it's hard to imagine.

CP laws are there to protect the kids for god's fucking sake! who's the victim in hetai? THE CARTOON? FUCKING MORONS!

Hey! This character is not 18! It's NOT! ILLEGAL!

Got IDs of this cartoon to prove otherwise? No? ILLEGAL!

Fuck off.

20 years ago kids on the beach running naked was a natural thing. Try seeing one today. There is NONE. Every child (even the smallest) wears a swimsuit. It's like an unwritten law. If my kid runs around naked on the beach I almost feel the eyes of other parents thinking how irresponsible I must be. It's the fear pedos may do harm already by looking at a child. Ding! Ding! Ding! Think they don't enjoy the view even with all the beach in swimsuits. Fucking BS how far this all went. Pedos everywhere. Fucking panic and fucking fear and more so, fucking puritan minds!

I think we found the gfy pedophile.

Ron Bennett 09-12-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsmut (Post 17495170)
post your complaint on webhostingtalk.com, domain forum ;-)

just tell your content is 2257 compliant and namecheap ignored it even after you telling them

About the phising site, there is some kind of phising related to child porn, someone hacks a site, uploads a fake CP site that leads to a fake credit card processor and the site is spammed, the scammer gets this way some credit card numbers belonging to pedos, it's the only scam on the net that gets me an smile, a pedo getting his CC drained by a scammer :D

this would explain namecheap talking about a phish site in a ticket about CP

That's exactly what I figured too. And in such instances, the easy, and often correct, answer is to remove the links (even if they're to pages that look ok, because they might not be - some phish exploits are masked very well and difficult for webmasters to spot) until the issue is resolved; provides time to prepare moving to another webhost.

Regarding phishing, the irony is that CP is one of the few remaining content niches for which many people will still whip out their credit card number and pay exorbitant fees to access with little to no thought - for phishers it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Ron

MrBottomTooth 09-12-2010 02:24 PM

So you were actually using namecheap hosting too? If so, there's your first mistake right there.

Sam Ozborn 09-12-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17495555)
It has come to our attention that you are hosting a fraudulent ‘phish’ web-site on liloo.tv
There were no child porn on liloo.tv

WTF:disgust

you like the 5th dude who fail to read this thread
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...4&postcount=36
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Ozborn (Post 17494314)
my answer was in regard to email subject which was "[#EYB-678234]: Important: Hosting Child Porn site on liloo.tv"
wtf is "fraudulent ‘phish’ web-site" i also wanted to ask but i thought i would address main issue first.

to answer your other presumptions, i didn't host my site at namecheap, why would you think this? and no, my site was not hacked and there were no exploits or any phishing stuff there. they would never found it though as they couldn't even find 2257 links on their own.

2intense 09-12-2010 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmen80 (Post 17495599)
You are a fucking retarded faggot. All porn sites uses retouched images, and every single TGP site does it. How fucking ignorant are you?

If the content is 2257 compliant then they have no right to suspend it.

--

TS is not alone. I had my domain suspended a while back because of takedown notices, and this was for non-adult content. These fucking assholes do anything they want without listening to you, and their support is a bunch of cunts.

i am very curious who are you because you are fucking rude

lazycash 09-12-2010 03:05 PM

As Smokey said, you got too hostile with them too quick and they weren't about to cut you any slack with your attitude. You play around with questionable adult content on a primarily mainstream host and you're just asking for problems. Your only option at this point is to get a new domain and host and upload your site assuming you have it backed up and try and build your traffic again.

marketsmart 09-12-2010 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Ozborn (Post 17495756)
to answer your other presumptions, i didn't host my site at namecheap, why would you think this? and no, my site was not hacked and there were no exploits or any phishing stuff there. they would never found it though as they couldn't even find 2257 links on their own.

how young were the clothed girls that you had on your site?

why would you put girls, clothed or not, that looked very young on your site?

i have a feeling based on everything you have shared here that you put some very young clothed girls on your site along with some very young anime and you chose the youngest looking models from different teen programs..

if the above is the case then lets call a spade a spade and you know what you were doing and the crowd you were catering to... :2 cents:




.

lazycash 09-12-2010 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Ozborn (Post 17495756)
you like the 5th dude who fail to read this thread
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...4&postcount=36


to answer your other presumptions, i didn't host my site at namecheap, why would you think this? and no, my site was not hacked and there were no exploits or any phishing stuff there. they would never found it though as they couldn't even find 2257 links on their own.

I presumed also that you were hosting with them because of your comment about them losing $370 a year. What did you mean when you said that?

lazycash 09-12-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17495818)
how young were the clothed girls that you had on your site?

why would you put girls, clothed or not, that looked very young on your site?

i have a feeling based on everything you have shared here that you put some very young clothed girls on your site along with some very young anime and you chose the youngest looking models from different teen programs..

if the above is the case then lets call a spade a spade and you know what you were doing and the crowd you were catering to... :2 cents:




.

That sounds like exactly what happened, you play with fire long enough and you'll eventually get burnt.

Ron Bennett 09-12-2010 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Ozborn (Post 17495756)
... i didn't host my site at namecheap, why would you think this? and no, my site was not hacked and there were no exploits or any phishing stuff there. they would never found it though as they couldn't even find 2257 links on their own.

I just took a look at Namecheap's domain registration agreement - the part about spamming and phishing is pretty standard, but the "moral" part ... wow, why would anyone register names there. Glad I never did - something about Namecheap never seemed right.

With the info you just posted, it's likely you had no real alternative other than taking the content / links down as demanded, at least temporarily, and transfer the domain name away to another registrar...

Have you tried transferring out the domain? Imho, that's really the only effective recourse you have at this point.

You will need to get the authcode (I think .tv uses them too) and get the domain unlocked. However, because .TV is a ccTLD, ICANN transfer out policy will be of no help - hence, it's possible Namecheap may refuse to facilitate a transfer out request.

Ron

CYF 09-12-2010 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17495819)
I presumed also that you were hosting with them because of your comment about them losing $370 a year. What did you mean when you said that?

He's going to move all his domains from namecheap, is what I understood from that.

Sam Ozborn 09-12-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17495819)
I presumed also that you were hosting with them because of your comment about them losing $370 a year. What did you mean when you said that?

$370 is a summary of renewal cost of all of my domains at namecheap im going to move out from them, pretty simple huh?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Ozborn (Post 17494153)
now consider this, your unprofessional actions going to cost your
company $370/year now and much more of potential income in the future
as i will move my domains to another registrar. actually not $370, you
don't get the full price of domain, you are just a reseller.


Ron Bennett 09-12-2010 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17495818)
how young were the clothed girls that you had on your site?

why would you put girls, clothed or not, that looked very young on your site?

i have a feeling based on everything you have shared here that you put some very young clothed girls on your site along with some very young anime and you chose the youngest looking models from different teen programs..

So the OP was posting pictures of actual adult models along with underage anime? -if so, wow that's a recipe for disaster...

When one mixes underage sexually explicit anime with real models, especially if implied as being underage themselves, posed in sexually provocative poses, clothed or not, that's going to be very difficult practice to defend when called out on it.

Ron


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