Anyone who promises #1 on SE rankings is a liar - GoFuckYourself.com

notjoe · 01-09-2003, 09:29 AM

Why are they a liar?

Because rankings do NOT solely depend on keywords, this isnt 1994 you guys!

You can optimize your pages for years but without other stuff like PageRank you will never hit the #1 spot.

Go read around, anyone who promises #1 is a liar.

BUT HEY, if you do want to give it a shot wait till you see your site in the #1 spot before you pay a dime

reddawg · 01-09-2003, 10:29 AM

Your right, there is alot envolved in this area of optimization, linking, pointing and so on.

Don't pay anyone that makes that promise, cause they can't guarentee what the end result will be and how long if it all you get that #1 position. A submission service can submit and optimize your site and that is it!

salsbury · 01-09-2003, 10:32 AM

i could write a search engine and guarantee a #1 ranking on it every time. it wouldn't be as popular as google.com overnight, but everyonesnumberone.com would eventually take over as the world's premier search engine.

reddawg · 01-09-2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by salsbury
i could write a search engine and guarantee a #1 ranking on it every time. it wouldn't be as popular as google.com overnight, but everyonesnumberone.com would eventually take over as the world's premier search engine.

I thought you wrote google or was that goofool.com

salsbury · 01-09-2003, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by reddawg
I thought you wrote google or was that goofool.com

i believe you have me confused with this steak:

he's gonna be so rich when google IPOs. i am jealous.

SquarePants · 01-09-2003, 12:31 PM

We deal with an SEO firm that works with Fortune 500 clients and small guys. We had them do a seminar at a local university small business function.

The one thing he said over and over was "Content Is King" and any company that says they will get a #1 ranking for your company is a liar. They may be able to get rank on 3-4 word key phrases but a 1-2 word is next to impossible without cheating, and when caught you are screwed. Home Depot used doorway pages a few years back and Google buted their chops for about 6 months.

A peson needs to do a keyword analysis and take those 2 keyword terms and add 1-2 more deeper search terms and then make their page relevant and have the keyword content, title and subject headings (H1 tags) and then slowly start working your pages to rank.

They will tell us and our non Adult clients that it may take 3-6 months to get on page 1 or 2. Also even if you are # 1 you are never going to hold rank. Google looks for changes to keep rank and the big thing is that Google and the others are in business to provide a product people will trust and continue to use. People that mess with that are usually taught a lesson ie Blacklisted.

My Non-Adult 2 Cents Knowledge.

superweb · 01-09-2003, 01:28 PM

I absolutely agree. Unless the SE optimiser owns yahoo or so, they can't be able to optimise your site to hold #1 position on greatest keywords. Getting the #1 to #3 position is a hard work or just a luck.

goBigtime · 01-09-2003, 01:36 PM

Is this personal Joe?

WTF you calling me a liar for? I thought we already went over this...Do you know me?

Don't worry Joe..

All your shit talking will come back to haunt you soon enough.

And quit trying to spin-off your own DVD player thread.

THE REAL THREAD IS HERE

Theo · 01-09-2003, 01:37 PM

goBigtime you managed to day to sound like 10y.old kid

goBigtime · 01-09-2003, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by superweb
Getting the #1 to #3 position is a hard work or just a luck.

Superweb you are absolutely right! And if NotJoe would READ a fucking post before he starts talking shit he would understand that I've been saying that it is NOT EASY, instantaneous, nor does it use any tricks or anything that will get you banned. It is hard work. But it is 100% doable for any keyword out there.

Now go back to the real thread (See above)

goBigtime · 01-09-2003, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
goBigtime you managed to day to sound like 10y.old kid

Tired... my sleeping schedule is really bad right now

But 10? Are you sure? Thats pretty young man.

notjoe · 01-09-2003, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
Is this personal Joe?

WTF you calling me a liar for? I thought we already went over this...Do you know me?

Don't worry Joe..

All your shit talking will come back to haunt you soon enough.

And quit trying to spin-off your own DVD player thread.

THE REAL THREAD IS HERE

I couldnt give a fuck about the DVD Player, i have a Sony Progressive scan which plugs nicely into My Sony Wega XBR TV.

Since you're that hard up if i do win a DVD Player i'll send you it!

goBigtime · 01-09-2003, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
goBigtime you managed to day to sound like 10y.old kid

hey SR come in IRC

Tipsy · 01-09-2003, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime

It is hard work. But it is 100% doable for any keyword out there.

110% pure bullshit. Of course anything is achievable but you have to have sensible bounds. However you personally cannot get a site to No1 position for any keyword - no matter how much work you put in as there are FAR too many factors some of which you will never manage especially in adult. To say that you can just proves you a fool.

goBigtime · 01-09-2003, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe

Since you're that hard up if i do win a DVD Player i'll send you it!

I thought the DVD player was the running joke of GFY. I'm still waiting for the mousepad

goBigtime · 01-09-2003, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Tipsy

110% pure bullshit. Of course anything is achievable but you have to have sensible bounds. However you personally cannot get a site to No1 position for any keyword - no matter how much work you put in as there are FAR too many factors some of which you will never manage especially in adult. To say that you can just proves you a fool.

On google you can. Go read the other thread. I'm not going to repost shit here.

notjoe · 01-09-2003, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime

On google you can. Go read the other thread. I'm not going to repost shit here.

Me either

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=98795

Theo · 01-09-2003, 01:50 PM

i'll be there in a couple of hours, i have to finish some tasks first

FiReC · 01-09-2003, 01:52 PM

top ten is pritty fucking easy if your keywords are niched

Tipsy · 01-09-2003, 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by FiReC
top ten is pritty fucking easy if your keywords are niched

But this guy has said several times 'any' keyword ie sex,porn,free sex,hmmm...what about no1 for the term 'yahoo'?

Again - anybody making that claim just makes a fool out of himself.

FiReC · 01-09-2003, 02:00 PM

SEO tutorials are on my list of things to do for XFC

The Other Steve · 01-09-2003, 02:10 PM

Maybe this guy isn't a liar, perhaps he's just misguided.

If top SEO companies refuse to guarantee top SE placements how can Joe Blow in Little Butt Fuck Arkansas produce the goods?

Of course he can't but that doesn't stop him from thinking he can.

Remember the recurring theme of Bulgarian sweat shops trying to crack the search engine algorithms so they could guarantee top listings?

Just have a look on Google for sex and porn and the results would seem to indicate that those sweat shops are now making Tshirts.

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The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	Maybe this guy isn't a liar, perhaps he's just misguided. If top SEO companies refuse to guarantee top SE placements how can Joe Blow in Little Butt Fuck Arkansas produce the goods? Of course he can't but that doesn't stop him from thinking he can. Remember the recurring theme of Bulgarian sweat shops trying to crack the search engine algorithms so they could guarantee top listings? Just have a look on Google for sex and porn and the results would seem to indicate that those sweat shops are now making Tshirts. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

01-09-2003, 09:29 AM	#1
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	Anyone who promises #1 on SE rankings is a liar Why are they a liar? Because rankings do NOT solely depend on keywords, this isnt 1994 you guys! You can optimize your pages for years but without other stuff like PageRank you will never hit the #1 spot. Go read around, anyone who promises #1 is a liar. BUT HEY, if you do want to give it a shot wait till you see your site in the #1 spot before you pay a dime

01-09-2003, 10:32 AM	#3
salsbury Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,070	i could write a search engine and guarantee a #1 ranking on it every time. it wouldn't be as popular as google.com overnight, but everyonesnumberone.com would eventually take over as the world's premier search engine. __________________

01-09-2003, 12:31 PM	#6
SquarePants Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 408	We deal with an SEO firm that works with Fortune 500 clients and small guys. We had them do a seminar at a local university small business function. The one thing he said over and over was "Content Is King" and any company that says they will get a #1 ranking for your company is a liar. They may be able to get rank on 3-4 word key phrases but a 1-2 word is next to impossible without cheating, and when caught you are screwed. Home Depot used doorway pages a few years back and Google buted their chops for about 6 months. A peson needs to do a keyword analysis and take those 2 keyword terms and add 1-2 more deeper search terms and then make their page relevant and have the keyword content, title and subject headings (H1 tags) and then slowly start working your pages to rank. They will tell us and our non Adult clients that it may take 3-6 months to get on page 1 or 2. Also even if you are # 1 you are never going to hold rank. Google looks for changes to keep rank and the big thing is that Google and the others are in business to provide a product people will trust and continue to use. People that mess with that are usually taught a lesson ie Blacklisted. My Non-Adult 2 Cents Knowledge.

01-09-2003, 01:36 PM	#8
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	Is this personal Joe? WTF you calling me a liar for? I thought we already went over this...Do you know me? Don't worry Joe.. All your shit talking will come back to haunt you soon enough. And quit trying to spin-off your own DVD player thread. THE REAL THREAD IS HERE

01-09-2003, 01:37 PM	#9
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	goBigtime you managed to day to sound like 10y.old kid

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