Vjo

They are out of Belize and issue a Mastercard with a $4000 limit. They are the best I have found for foreign transfers of funds into the US. I see a couple foreign sponsors have also just this week added them.

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Keypoints from: http://ecoin.cc

eCoin.cc is a system of momentary transfers of monetary funds online. The funds can be transferred within the system from one client’s account to another one. You can pay for online services such as web-design or web-hosting.

eCoin.cc helps users to receive paper checks from foreign partnership programs, or to receive other money transfers done in the form of a paper check. The checks are cashed in a US bank. It takes 2-5 banking days to cash a check. For partnership programs we provide an operation of issuing checks and sending them off. eCoin.cc will also assist you in receiving and cashing Money Orders. The funds from eCoin.cc system can be withdrawn to WebMoney system, ePassporte, and other kinds of e-currencies. This operation is available for registered users only.

eCoin.cc facilitates cashing bank transfers. This option will help those who need to receive a bank transfer, and who don’t have a personal bank account. eCoin.cc will receive a bank transfer onto its bank account, and after that you will be able to request your funds to be withdrawn in any way convenient for you such as a plastic bank debit card, WebMoney, ePassporte, and other kinds of e-currencies. This operation is available for registered users only.

eCoin.cc assists in receiving an offshore personal plastic debit card for purchasing in the Internet, and withdrawal at ATMs. This option is available for registered users only. The issuing bank is located in an offshore zone.

eCoin.cc company is not a bank. This system is intended for assisting users in receiving wire transfers, paper checks, Western Union transfers, Webmoney transfers, ePassporte and other currencies, and further withdrawing funds to plastic cards bought in eCoin.cc, to a personal bank account of the customer, to ePassporte or WebMoney. In special cases, after negotiating with the support service a wire transfer to a company account is also possible

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FAQ (partial) from: http://ecoin.cc/faq/

Question 1: What is eCoin.cc system intended for?

Answer: eCoin.cc company is not a bank. This system is intended for assisting users in receiving wire transfers, paper checks, Western Union transfers, Webmoney transfers, Fethard and other currencies, and further withdrawing funds to plastic cards bought in eCoin.cc, or to a personal bank account of the customer. In special cases, after negotiating with the support service a wire transfer to a company account is also possible.

Question 2: How can I register in the system?

Answer: To register in the system you should fill out a registration form on Open an account page. After you have done that, you should pass primary registration. Your status is “NEW”. This status allows you only to send a message to the support service and get a reply from them. You can not receive payments onto your account. You can not make payments from your account. You can not order a card for withdrawing funds at ATMs.

To get status “ACTIVE” you must:

1) have a verified email box (during registration you will get a special code to your email box, and enter it into the profile);
2) upload your passport scan through your profile (600 DPI definition)
3) upload your secondary ID scan through your profile: driver’s license, travel passport, etc (600 DPI definition);
4) upload scan of your passport page with address proof;
5) upload Form W8-BEN (must be filled out).
You can upload documents only in TIFF, JPEG or PNG format.

After we have accepted the due diligence – you will get status “ACTIVE”.

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This seems strange:

"2) upload your passport scan through your profile (600 DPI definition)"

But otherwise they seem like perhaps a poss alternative to Epass. Foreign sites are always a bit weird in some aspects to us in the US but they seem like an alternative and several foreign sponsors use them.

Any opinions or experiences please?

chronig

Without reading through all that shit... is this service any better than Payoneer or OKPay?

chronig

Site looks shady as fuck - great rates... so aslong as you actually get your money

k0nr4d

I wouldn't trust my money to them if they coudln't even spring for the .com (which is some park page..)

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Ecoin only let's you sign up if you are in russia. Enough said.

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Vjo

Thanks guys appreciate it. Yeah K0nr4d that is a good point.

Also:

To get status “ACTIVE” you must:

4) upload scan of your passport page with address proof;
5) upload Form W8-BEN (must be filled out).

I noticed many foreign transfer services like Webmoney too come off as really user unfriendly to the US customer.

chronig, I will go explore payoner and let you know. Been meaning to do that anyway.

Vjo

Enuf said. Thanks Tina.

Appreciate it.

Vjo

chronig, I am just gonna take everyones word that Payoneer basicly sucks.

Boy this is not looking good. Guess it is going to be all wires from anyone over the ocean.

chronig

Whoops, don't know who you think "everyone" is --- but everyone does not necessarily think that Payoneer sucks... especially now that the cold hard reality that they're not getting their money back from epass has set in.

Vjo

Cool, Ill check em out. Just heard some dscouraging words.

You have to match the foreign sponsor with the pay service and I havent seen that many with Payoneer. But I only use a couple foreign sponsors.

I'm just going to bite the bullet and take the high minimum with the wire.

Fuck all these transfer services. If it isnt REAL easy to join like EP was then forget it.

Nothing could be worse than talking to some guy in Bumfuck Wherever on the phone cause something is messed up.

Gonna take my chances with higher minimum wires. Which means only my best foreign sponsors go forward.

OneWhoKnows

Bullshit! I signed up there 2 weeks ago, my account is verified, I already received payouts to my ecoin account and the plastic card is ordered. And I'm not from Russia, not from any other country behind the former iron courtain nor do I speak or understand Russian.

Also, why does their website look shady as fuck? Because it doesn't have any professional shiny design? Because it's in Russian? They offer loads of great services which I couldn't find at any "western" payment service, they offer live support (in English, Russian and German) through an own chat system or ICQ. Oh, and you are able to keep your funds for the plastic card in a real bank account - looks much more secure to me than epassporte, for example. If they close shop, the bank will most likely still be there.

But then again, being from Russia equals being shady for most bromasters in here, so nervermind

JM-cj

Using it last 14 months.... all is fine!

Unlimited

any sponsor using ecoin?

Serious-Partner

We started using ecoin to pay our affiliates
and Payoneer as well.

CaptainHowdy

Unlimited

i found bucksfactory is paying via ecoin also

OneWhoKnows

Since when? Can't find it as an option in the "Payments info" section.

OneWhoKnows

Some sponsors who definitely pay through ecoin:

Adult Empire
BucksGuru
Hardcore Bucks
Long Bucks
Serious Cash

Sponsors planning to add it soon (as their support told me):

Tony Bucks
Royal Cash

SpicyM

Yeah, Russian sponsors use eCoin.

Add IdolBucks, ShockingCash and HuntersCash to the list.

SpicyM

"The service fee of the Mastercard card from LoyalBank is 6 USD per month."

So you pay $6 monthly just for having your card..

OneWhoKnows

That's $72 a year for the card and an account at a real bank. At ePass you pay $35 each year just for the card and the money is only available through ePass, but not directly through St. Kitts bank.

Fair deal I'd say.

Marcin978

wow, it seems than ecoin is much more better than epassporte

because you can wire money there from sponsors

and even more, it seems that you can send them check from sponsor! wow, anyone can confirm that?

i just created account there
and see in the news

how long does it take to cashing check?? anyone know?

OneWhoKnows

More info here: http://www.ecoin.cc/faq/

Can't confirm this yet, but I changed my CCBill info to their US office recently, so I hope I can tell you soon if it works and how long it takes. But I guess it won't be any problem, as they seem to do this for years already.

Marcin978

I registered two days ago, i sent email and question about debit card and i wanted full active my account

but my message was closed without single word of answer

i reopened it and ask, why i did not get any answer

its strange because i found my european union country in their list
why they have english translation?

OneWhoKnows

Hmm, that's strange. I'm also not from Russia but living in European Union and my account was approved and I'm now waiting for my card to arrive. However they wanted me to provide them with the URL's of my main sites and the ID of at least one affiliate program working together with them. Which is actually a good sign imo, as it shows they do a bit of due diligence when it comes to clients, too. After that I was approved.

However, I did that through live support. So, if you're still interested to join them, try that instead of a ticket.

tranza

.cc?

Yeah, right...

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OneWhoKnows

Yea, .cc

And?

HomerSimpson

it's some Russian stuff...
similar to fethard.biz

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