Epassporte Mess Will Clean Up This Industry - GoFuckYourself.com

PXN · 09-09-2010, 04:12 PM

I know a lot of people are upset with Epass and this whole mess, but I think that it could actually be good for the adult business. My prediction is that once this issue have been settle down, either webmaster took their money out or it lost forever, this industry will be better off than before. As it become more difficult to send/receive money, more people will just leave the industry then simply start over again. More likely more people will be selling their biz. This have already happens but the pace will pick up speed. That will decrease the number of competition (for both freesites and paysite owner) and it will weed out the bad guys especially those from countries where laws as less likely to be enforced.

It will also make it less likely that people who try to scam the system (i.e. like carding, fraud, etc) will leave if payment they receive are more difficult to get because if you are a criminal you surely don't want to send ID of yourself. And those criminals living in coutries like US/CAN/UK etc., surely would think twice before sending in their IDs. Before all this mess, AWE/Perfect Gonzo (now gone) and others can actually set you up for an epass account even if you are located in countries where fraud are highly suspected and very difficult to get an epass account. Not only will they create you an account, they actually will mail you an epass card too. In this process, criminals or those who in this business to do shady stuff can easily hide their identity. But now it will be much more difficult it likely most will leave.

Newbie coming into this industry will more likely to get crushed as they are now fighting to earn a profit, and now must also find ways how to easily get paid and send money to keep their business afloat. As the latter becomes more difficult it just would be too inconvenience for those making under 1K/mon to stick around in this business.

If you already go a big chunk in epass, write it off as a loss in your taxes. In the end I think this industry might turn out better than expected when all the dust are settle.

xholly · 09-09-2010, 04:20 PM

i don't think it will put the pirates or the big tubes out of biz. I hardly think a bunch of scammers trying to card programs is the reason for sales ratios turning to shit.

Socks · 09-09-2010, 04:23 PM

I think getting rid of the people that don't matter won't matter.

Nicky · 09-09-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

I think getting rid of the people that don't matter won't matter.

cambaby · 09-09-2010, 04:31 PM

How do people like OP even make money in this business? You have ZERO clue, stick to lurking.

Tjeezers · 09-09-2010, 04:35 PM

might be so. But why are we left with the bill
sponsors who close doors, yeah cleans up nicely, on our expenses
and you should change your sig, or your still aiming for wallet money? It might never end up in your pocket

in3sting · 09-09-2010, 04:37 PM

Epass can go bankrupt with all my money in ... I won't leave the biz
My dedi servers company can be caught in a natural disaster or something ... I won't leave this biz
Programs that I work with can run away with my money (won't be the first time!)... I won't leave this biz

I just won't leave it because I'm legit, I work hard and I have the knowledge to make money out of it.

Plus:

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Originally Posted by Socks

I think getting rid of the people that don't matter won't matter.

The world is full of them, if the ones already here will bite the dust, others will come

TampaToker · 09-09-2010, 04:40 PM

I will say 98% of all fraud we deal with is affiliates getting paid by epass......

cambaby · 09-09-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

I will say 98% of all fraud we deal with is affiliates getting paid by epass......

I would say 100% of all shaving is done by sponsors.

PXN · 09-09-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

I will say 98% of all fraud we deal with is affiliates getting paid by epass......

Thanks for the info.

Since you are with TeenRevenue, I'm sure you know what you are talking about that other people don't know

.

PXN · 09-09-2010, 04:55 PM

Maybe not for you, but for others they will. You can now see people selling their site and script dirt cheap to get out asap.

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Originally Posted by in3sting

Epass can go bankrupt with all my money in ... I won't leave the biz
My dedi servers company can be caught in a natural disaster or something ... I won't leave this biz
Programs that I work with can run away with my money (won't be the first time!)... I won't leave this biz

I just won't leave it because I'm legit, I work hard and I have the knowledge to make money out of it.

Plus:

The world is full of them, if the ones already here will bite the dust, others will come

in3sting · 09-09-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PXN

Maybe not for you, but for others they will. You can now see people selling their site and script dirt cheap to get out asap.

Did I mention I have lots of links/sites for sale as well?

Epass really caught me off-guard this time, need some paypal money for invoices

But hey, as I said before, it's just a bump on the road. A big fucking bump, but still.. just a bump for me

TampaToker · 09-09-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PXN

Thanks for the info.

Since you are with TeenRevenue, I'm sure you know what you are talking about that other people don't know

.

Honestly if i had my own program i would only offer epass to affiliates only with a proven track record with sales. Epass and pps is a dangerous combo since you dont know who really the owner of the epass account is.

papill0n · 09-09-2010, 09:13 PM

and despite all that bullshit you wrote you still have a giant sig offering to take epassporte

cambaby · 09-09-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

Honestly if i had my own program i would only offer epass to affiliates only with a proven track record with sales. Epass and pps is a dangerous combo since you dont know who really the owner of the epass account is.

So are you willing to send your ID to each affiliate so they know who YOU are?

TampaToker · 09-09-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

So are you willing to send your ID to each affiliate so they know who YOU are?

Only if they are liberals.....

PXN · 09-09-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

and despite all that bullshit you wrote you still have a giant sig offering to take epassporte

You have no idea what my post is about

. It not about bullshitting epass, it about people who use epass for fraud and shady shit and getting rid of them.

Next time if you don't read everything or have no idea what the fuck the post about, don't response. It make you look like an idiot.

pornmasta · 09-09-2010, 11:17 PM

Someone to add an "Adapt or die" to this thread ?

papill0n · 09-09-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PXN

You have no idea what my post is about

. It not about bullshitting epass, it about people who use epass for fraud and shady shit and getting rid of them.

Next time if you don't read everything or have no idea what the fuck the post about, don't response. It make you look like an idiot.

thats for letting me know

ContentPimp · 09-10-2010, 12:17 AM

People preferred to pay me via epass, so I accepted epass even though I had to go through incredible hassle to have epass account because I live abroad as a Canadian citizen, and epass would insist to send my card to Canada even though my Canadian bank would send it to me ANYWHERE in the world if I sent them a written statement, but OK anything for the convenience of the clients.

Now that epass is not likely to be around any longer, I have adapted 10 different ways of accepting payment to try and keep the clients 'convenience' at a maximum high.

For me visa ATM was convenient way to get money, now my accountant will have 10x more work getting money from 10 different payment systems via wire/check and tracking incoming/outgoing all over... great :D

Vick! · 09-10-2010, 03:02 AM

People going out of business and being broke, and you are excited and seeing it as less competition? What an asshole.

Or you must be someone with zero expertise to compete against small webmasters, because no big name is going out of business for sure.

Paul Markham · 09-10-2010, 04:11 AM

This business has been shedding people for the last 2 years. Epass going will make the process a bit faster.

09-09-2010, 04:12 PM	#1
PXN Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,548	Epassporte Mess Will Clean Up This Industry I know a lot of people are upset with Epass and this whole mess, but I think that it could actually be good for the adult business. My prediction is that once this issue have been settle down, either webmaster took their money out or it lost forever, this industry will be better off than before. As it become more difficult to send/receive money, more people will just leave the industry then simply start over again. More likely more people will be selling their biz. This have already happens but the pace will pick up speed. That will decrease the number of competition (for both freesites and paysite owner) and it will weed out the bad guys especially those from countries where laws as less likely to be enforced. It will also make it less likely that people who try to scam the system (i.e. like carding, fraud, etc) will leave if payment they receive are more difficult to get because if you are a criminal you surely don't want to send ID of yourself. And those criminals living in coutries like US/CAN/UK etc., surely would think twice before sending in their IDs. Before all this mess, AWE/Perfect Gonzo (now gone) and others can actually set you up for an epass account even if you are located in countries where fraud are highly suspected and very difficult to get an epass account. Not only will they create you an account, they actually will mail you an epass card too. In this process, criminals or those who in this business to do shady stuff can easily hide their identity. But now it will be much more difficult it likely most will leave. Newbie coming into this industry will more likely to get crushed as they are now fighting to earn a profit, and now must also find ways how to easily get paid and send money to keep their business afloat. As the latter becomes more difficult it just would be too inconvenience for those making under 1K/mon to stick around in this business. If you already go a big chunk in epass, write it off as a loss in your taxes. In the end I think this industry might turn out better than expected when all the dust are settle.

09-09-2010, 04:35 PM	#6
Tjeezers Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BP4L - NL/RO Posts: 16,590	might be so. But why are we left with the bill sponsors who close doors, yeah cleans up nicely, on our expenses and you should change your sig, or your still aiming for wallet money? It might never end up in your pocket __________________ Enroll in the SWAG Affiliate Asian Live Cam Program and get 9 free quality linkbacks from my network! Wanna see how old school I am? Look at this! All my Cam Review Sites are here. Last edited by Tjeezers; 09-09-2010 at 04:36 PM..

09-10-2010, 12:17 AM	#20
ContentPimp Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,184	People preferred to pay me via epass, so I accepted epass even though I had to go through incredible hassle to have epass account because I live abroad as a Canadian citizen, and epass would insist to send my card to Canada even though my Canadian bank would send it to me ANYWHERE in the world if I sent them a written statement, but OK anything for the convenience of the clients. Now that epass is not likely to be around any longer, I have adapted 10 different ways of accepting payment to try and keep the clients 'convenience' at a maximum high. For me visa ATM was convenient way to get money, now my accountant will have 10x more work getting money from 10 different payment systems via wire/check and tracking incoming/outgoing all over... great :D __________________ Blog Post Writing and Reviews are 2 cents per word & Titles and Gallery Descriptions 1 cent per word We also write Pay Site Reviews, SEO and Mainstream text www.contentpimp.info Contact me on ICQ at 400792466 Payoneer, Paxum and Paypal Accepted forms of Payment by the Pimp

09-10-2010, 03:02 AM	#21
Vick! Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 20 00'24.00" N, 75 09'00.00 W Posts: 6,882	People going out of business and being broke, and you are excited and seeing it as less competition? What an asshole. Or you must be someone with zero expertise to compete against small webmasters, because no big name is going out of business for sure. __________________ Affordable Quality Web Hosting

09-10-2010, 04:11 AM	#22
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	This business has been shedding people for the last 2 years. Epass going will make the process a bit faster. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

09-09-2010, 04:20 PM	#2
xholly Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 817	i don't think it will put the pirates or the big tubes out of biz. I hardly think a bunch of scammers trying to card programs is the reason for sales ratios turning to shit.

09-09-2010, 04:23 PM	#3
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	I think getting rid of the people that don't matter won't matter.

09-09-2010, 04:31 PM	#5
cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	How do people like OP even make money in this business? You have ZERO clue, stick to lurking.

09-09-2010, 04:40 PM	#8
TampaToker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,827	I will say 98% of all fraud we deal with is affiliates getting paid by epass......

09-09-2010, 09:13 PM	#14
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	and despite all that bullshit you wrote you still have a giant sig offering to take epassporte

09-09-2010, 11:17 PM	#18
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,301	Someone to add an "Adapt or die" to this thread ?