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PXN 09-09-2010 04:12 PM

Epassporte Mess Will Clean Up This Industry
 
I know a lot of people are upset with Epass and this whole mess, but I think that it could actually be good for the adult business. My prediction is that once this issue have been settle down, either webmaster took their money out or it lost forever, this industry will be better off than before. As it become more difficult to send/receive money, more people will just leave the industry then simply start over again. More likely more people will be selling their biz. This have already happens but the pace will pick up speed. That will decrease the number of competition (for both freesites and paysite owner) and it will weed out the bad guys especially those from countries where laws as less likely to be enforced.

It will also make it less likely that people who try to scam the system (i.e. like carding, fraud, etc) will leave if payment they receive are more difficult to get because if you are a criminal you surely don't want to send ID of yourself. And those criminals living in coutries like US/CAN/UK etc., surely would think twice before sending in their IDs. Before all this mess, AWE/Perfect Gonzo (now gone) and others can actually set you up for an epass account even if you are located in countries where fraud are highly suspected and very difficult to get an epass account. Not only will they create you an account, they actually will mail you an epass card too. In this process, criminals or those who in this business to do shady stuff can easily hide their identity. But now it will be much more difficult it likely most will leave.

Newbie coming into this industry will more likely to get crushed as they are now fighting to earn a profit, and now must also find ways how to easily get paid and send money to keep their business afloat. As the latter becomes more difficult it just would be too inconvenience for those making under 1K/mon to stick around in this business.

If you already go a big chunk in epass, write it off as a loss in your taxes. In the end I think this industry might turn out better than expected when all the dust are settle.

xholly 09-09-2010 04:20 PM

i don't think it will put the pirates or the big tubes out of biz. I hardly think a bunch of scammers trying to card programs is the reason for sales ratios turning to shit.

Socks 09-09-2010 04:23 PM

I think getting rid of the people that don't matter won't matter.

Nicky 09-09-2010 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 17486087)
I think getting rid of the people that don't matter won't matter.

:2 cents:

cambaby 09-09-2010 04:31 PM

How do people like OP even make money in this business? You have ZERO clue, stick to lurking.

Tjeezers 09-09-2010 04:35 PM

might be so. But why are we left with the bill
sponsors who close doors, yeah cleans up nicely, on our expenses
and you should change your sig, or your still aiming for wallet money? It might never end up in your pocket

in3sting 09-09-2010 04:37 PM

Epass can go bankrupt with all my money in ... I won't leave the biz
My dedi servers company can be caught in a natural disaster or something ... I won't leave this biz
Programs that I work with can run away with my money (won't be the first time!)... I won't leave this biz

I just won't leave it because I'm legit, I work hard and I have the knowledge to make money out of it.

Plus:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 17486087)
I think getting rid of the people that don't matter won't matter.

The world is full of them, if the ones already here will bite the dust, others will come

TampaToker 09-09-2010 04:40 PM

I will say 98% of all fraud we deal with is affiliates getting paid by epass......

cambaby 09-09-2010 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 17486144)
I will say 98% of all fraud we deal with is affiliates getting paid by epass......

I would say 100% of all shaving is done by sponsors.

PXN 09-09-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 17486144)
I will say 98% of all fraud we deal with is affiliates getting paid by epass......

Thanks for the info.

Since you are with TeenRevenue, I'm sure you know what you are talking about that other people don't know :thumbsup.

PXN 09-09-2010 04:55 PM

Maybe not for you, but for others they will. You can now see people selling their site and script dirt cheap to get out asap.


Quote:

Originally Posted by in3sting (Post 17486136)
Epass can go bankrupt with all my money in ... I won't leave the biz
My dedi servers company can be caught in a natural disaster or something ... I won't leave this biz
Programs that I work with can run away with my money (won't be the first time!)... I won't leave this biz

I just won't leave it because I'm legit, I work hard and I have the knowledge to make money out of it.

Plus:

The world is full of them, if the ones already here will bite the dust, others will come


in3sting 09-09-2010 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PXN (Post 17486200)
Maybe not for you, but for others they will. You can now see people selling their site and script dirt cheap to get out asap.

Did I mention I have lots of links/sites for sale as well? :1orglaugh
Epass really caught me off-guard this time, need some paypal money for invoices

But hey, as I said before, it's just a bump on the road. A big fucking bump, but still.. just a bump for me

TampaToker 09-09-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PXN (Post 17486183)
Thanks for the info.

Since you are with TeenRevenue, I'm sure you know what you are talking about that other people don't know :thumbsup.

Honestly if i had my own program i would only offer epass to affiliates only with a proven track record with sales. Epass and pps is a dangerous combo since you dont know who really the owner of the epass account is.

papill0n 09-09-2010 09:13 PM

and despite all that bullshit you wrote you still have a giant sig offering to take epassporte

cambaby 09-09-2010 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 17486566)
Honestly if i had my own program i would only offer epass to affiliates only with a proven track record with sales. Epass and pps is a dangerous combo since you dont know who really the owner of the epass account is.

So are you willing to send your ID to each affiliate so they know who YOU are?

TampaToker 09-09-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17486762)
So are you willing to send your ID to each affiliate so they know who YOU are?

Only if they are liberals.....

PXN 09-09-2010 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 17486760)
and despite all that bullshit you wrote you still have a giant sig offering to take epassporte

You have no idea what my post is about :1orglaugh. It not about bullshitting epass, it about people who use epass for fraud and shady shit and getting rid of them.


Next time if you don't read everything or have no idea what the fuck the post about, don't response. It make you look like an idiot.

pornmasta 09-09-2010 11:17 PM

Someone to add an "Adapt or die" to this thread ?

papill0n 09-09-2010 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PXN (Post 17486982)
You have no idea what my post is about :1orglaugh. It not about bullshitting epass, it about people who use epass for fraud and shady shit and getting rid of them.


Next time if you don't read everything or have no idea what the fuck the post about, don't response. It make you look like an idiot.


thats for letting me know

ContentPimp 09-10-2010 12:17 AM

People preferred to pay me via epass, so I accepted epass even though I had to go through incredible hassle to have epass account because I live abroad as a Canadian citizen, and epass would insist to send my card to Canada even though my Canadian bank would send it to me ANYWHERE in the world if I sent them a written statement, but OK anything for the convenience of the clients.

Now that epass is not likely to be around any longer, I have adapted 10 different ways of accepting payment to try and keep the clients 'convenience' at a maximum high.

For me visa ATM was convenient way to get money, now my accountant will have 10x more work getting money from 10 different payment systems via wire/check and tracking incoming/outgoing all over... great :D

Vick! 09-10-2010 03:02 AM

People going out of business and being broke, and you are excited and seeing it as less competition? What an asshole.

Or you must be someone with zero expertise to compete against small webmasters, because no big name is going out of business for sure.

Paul Markham 09-10-2010 04:11 AM

This business has been shedding people for the last 2 years. Epass going will make the process a bit faster.


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