SATAN DRIVES AN SUV: TV Ads Say S.U.V. Owners Support Terrorists - GoFuckYourself.com

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 11:59 AM

This is some sweet irony for anyone who has ever seen those AD COUNCIL "if you buy drugs you support terrorism" spots...

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TV Ads Say S.U.V. Owners Support Terrorists
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE

ASHINGTON, Jan. 7 ? Ratcheting up the debate over sport utility vehicles, new television commercials suggest that people who buy the vehicles are supporting terrorists. The commercials are so provocative that some television stations are refusing to run them.

Patterned after the commercials that try to discourage drug use by suggesting that profits from illegal drugs go to terrorists, the new commercials say that money for gas needed for S.U.V.'s goes to terrorists.

"This is George," a girl's voice says of an oblivious man at a gas station. "This is the gas that George bought for his S.U.V." The screen then shows a map of the Middle East. "These are the countries where the executives bought the oil that made the gas that George bought for his S.U.V." The picture switches to a scene of armed terrorists in a desert. "And these are the terrorists who get money from those countries every time George fills up his S.U.V."

A second commercial depicts a series of ordinary Americans saying things like: "I helped hijack an airplane"; "I gave money to a terrorist training camp in a foreign country"; "What if I need to go off-road?"

At the close, the screen is filled with the words: "What is your S.U.V. doing to our national security?"

The two 30-second commercials are the brainchild of the author and columnist Arianna Huffington. Her target audience, she said, is Detroit and Congress, especially the Republicans and Democrats who last year voted against a bill, sponsored by Senators John McCain, Republican of Arizona, and John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, that would have raised fuel-efficiency standards.

Spokesmen for the automakers dismissed the commercials.

Eron Shosteck, a spokesman for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, said of Ms. Huffington, "Her opinion is out-voted every year by Americans who buy S.U.V.'s for their safety, comfort and versatility." He said that S.U.V.'s now account for 21 percent of the market.

In an interview, Senator Kerry distanced himself from the commercials. He said that rather than oppose S.U.V.'s outright, he believed they should be more efficient.

"I haven't seen these commercials," he said, "but anybody can drive as large an S.U.V. as they want, though it can be more efficient than it is today."

Ms. Huffington's group, which calls itself the Detroit Project, has bought almost $200,000 of air time for the commercials, to run from Sunday to Thursday. While the group may lose some viewers if stations refuse to run the advertisements, the message is attracting attention through news coverage.

The advertisements are to be broadcast on "Meet The Press," "Face the Nation" and "This Week With George Stephanopoulos" in Detroit, Los Angeles, New York and Washington.

But some local affiliates say they will not run them. At the ABC affiliate in New York, Art Moore, director of programming, said, "There were a lot of statements being made that were not backed up, and they're talking about hot-button issues."

Ms. Huffington said she got the idea for the commercials while watching the antidrug commercials, sponsored by the Bush administration. In her syndicated column, she asked readers if they would be willing to pay for "a people's ad campaign to jolt our leaders into reality."

She said she received 5,000 e-mail messages and eventually raised $50,000 from the public. Bigger contributors included Steve Bing, the film producer; Larry David, the comedian and "Seinfeld" co-creator; and Norman Lear, the television producer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/08/bu...ner=ALTAVISTA1

salsbury · 01-08-2003, 12:11 PM

heh, FINALLY! at least this shit makes more sense than "if you buy marijuana you're supporting terrorism".

DX · 01-08-2003, 12:22 PM

http://www.detroitproject.com/ads/default.htm

commercials are there.

Fuck celebrities and their pet projects.

volante · 01-08-2003, 12:23 PM

I wonder if they realise how much oil the USA produces?

[The Leader] · 01-08-2003, 12:27 PM

Holly shit this is getting rediculous. I smoke pot and drive an SUV, so...I'm a terrorist? That's such bullshit, then I suppose the President of the USA is the biggest terrorist I've ever seen, he's always driving an SUV or 2500 truck.

ChrisH · 01-08-2003, 12:31 PM

FUCK THEM SELF RIGHTEOUS ASSHOLES.

At the end of those antidrug.com commercials. They should show a picture of the US, then a picture of the Poppy Fields in Afghanistan. Then say, If the US government had destroyed these fields, there wouldn't have been an arms for drugs deal in Hong Kong!

F U C K T H E M!!!!!!!!!!!

salsbury · 01-08-2003, 12:33 PM

while i do think that it's about time this ad came up (because, really, buying oil has a much greater chance of supporting terrorism than buying pot (even granted that the US produces a bunch of oil, and gets a bunch from Canada)), i think it's funny that it misses a key point.

someone driving a geo metro as a regional sales guy would buy more gas than a soccer mom driving her SUV to the store and back.

you might even be able to suggest that you're supporting terrorism by buying any products at stores. lots are shipped by truck, many shipped by oil-consuming boats.

Backov · 01-08-2003, 12:34 PM

It's more logically sound then the pot argument.

SUVs are a fucking joke.. A modern SUV gets the same or less gas mileage then a 70 GTO. Yes, that's right, the muscle car from the 70s has better efficiency then the 03 monster SUV.

If you make me I'll cite specific numbers.

Problem with SUVs is the bastard auto makers are exploiting a loophole in the law.. They're classified as "light trucks" which makes them exempt from the same standards that cars get.

If you don't think SUVs are a problem, chances are you own one and have never been behind a Navigator driven by a single white guy.

Not to mention the whole fireball deathtrap aspect of a lot of them. Kudos to Fords (I believe it was Ford?) PR department for putting the blame on Firestone, when it was their damn shitty SUVs that were flipping and killing people because of a simple blowout.

Bah, fuck SUVs and the little dick motherfuckers that have to have them.

12clicks · 01-08-2003, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov
It's more logically sound then the pot argument.

SUVs are a fucking joke.. A modern SUV gets the same or less gas mileage then a 70 GTO. Yes, that's right, the muscle car from the 70s has better efficiency then the 03 monster SUV.

If you make me I'll cite specific numbers.

Problem with SUVs is the bastard auto makers are exploiting a loophole in the law.. They're classified as "light trucks" which makes them exempt from the same standards that cars get.

If you don't think SUVs are a problem, chances are you own one and have never been behind a Navigator driven by a single white guy.

Not to mention the whole fireball deathtrap aspect of a lot of them. Kudos to Fords (I believe it was Ford?) PR department for putting the blame on Firestone, when it was their damn shitty SUVs that were flipping and killing people because of a simple blowout.

Bah, fuck SUVs and the little dick motherfuckers that have to have them.

Translation: I'm too poor to afford an SUV

jimmyf · 01-08-2003, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by DX
http://www.detroitproject.com/ads/default.htm

Fuck celebrities and their pet projects.

Yip....I've been letting my finger do it for sometime now. I filp the channel any time 1 of there shows come on old or news one's. I don't give a shit if they are out spoken on, Bush, Gore, Sea Lions, the fucking Rain Forrest, or what ever, some of'm just go way 2 far. Screw the Pin Head's. I've never watched the TV show West Wing because of Martin Sheen and all the bull shit he's involved with, And he use to be one of my Fav. actors.

jimmyf · 01-08-2003, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

Translation: I'm too poor to afford an SUV

How come you are almost always hit it right on

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

Translation: I'm too poor to afford an SUV

Translation: Bahhhh...Bahhhh....Bahhh.

(Sorry 12clicks..this joke made much more sense to me when I envisioned it in my head...you see...I'm implying that you're a sheep...youre a sheep because....ah fuck it....its not like I'd ever be able to convince you of anything i said anyway.

)

Backov · 01-08-2003, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

Translation: I'm too poor to afford an SUV

I would never drive one of those fucking monsters, apart from me being too poor. ;>

Like I said, if you don't see the problem, you probably own one. Do ya 12Clicks? I'd say it's pretty likely, as they're the new status symbol.

I like the old days when a sports car was the status symbol. Sure, they suck back the gas, but at least they're not total fucking hazards like the huge SUVs are.

America needs to give its fucking head a shake. I really don't care that much about the fuel consumption, but fuck are they a pain to drive with. It seems like it's always some fucking numbnuts driving his Yukon Denali or Escalade that's causing accidents. Too big to see around, and they think they own the fucking road.

cosis · 01-08-2003, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov
It's more logically sound then the pot argument.

SUVs are a fucking joke.. A modern SUV gets the same or less gas mileage then a 70 GTO. Yes, that's right, the muscle car from the 70s has better efficiency then the 03 monster SUV.

If you make me I'll cite specific numbers.

Problem with SUVs is the bastard auto makers are exploiting a loophole in the law.. They're classified as "light trucks" which makes them exempt from the same standards that cars get.

If you don't think SUVs are a problem, chances are you own one and have never been behind a Navigator driven by a single white guy.

Not to mention the whole fireball deathtrap aspect of a lot of them. Kudos to Fords (I believe it was Ford?) PR department for putting the blame on Firestone, when it was their damn shitty SUVs that were flipping and killing people because of a simple blowout.

Bah, fuck SUVs and the little dick motherfuckers that have to have them.

i am a single white guy with a 4runner, sometimes i just drive around in circles wasting gas.....

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cosis

i am a single white guy with a 4runner

You must be gay. Thats a girls car.

Like a VW Rabbit or a Mazda Miata.

GIRLS CAR ! GIRLS CAR ! COSIS DRIVES A GIRLS CAR !

Better take that Sinead O'Connor outta the CD Player you sick son of a bitch!

12clicks · 01-08-2003, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

Translation: Bahhhh...Bahhhh....Bahhh.

(Sorry 12clicks..this joke made much more sense to me when I envisioned it in my head...you see...I'm implying that you're a sheep...youre a sheep because....ah fuck it....its not like I'd ever be able to convince you of anything i said anyway. )

how silly. there's no one in the world that would want to be you when they could be me.

keep making animal sounds, it fits your kindergarten mentality.

12clicks · 01-08-2003, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov

I would never drive one of those fucking monsters, apart from me being too poor. ;>

Like I said, if you don't see the problem, you probably own one. Do ya 12Clicks? I'd say it's pretty likely, as they're the new status symbol.

I like the old days when a sports car was the status symbol. Sure, they suck back the gas, but at least they're not total fucking hazards like the huge SUVs are.

America needs to give its fucking head a shake. I really don't care that much about the fuel consumption, but fuck are they a pain to drive with. It seems like it's always some fucking numbnuts driving his Yukon Denali or Escalade that's causing accidents. Too big to see around, and they think they own the fucking road.

Dude, um maybe in some back woods part of the world they are a status symbol but here where I live, they're just something to get around in.

If you're an american then you know that the world revolves around us and we'll drive whatever the fuck we want.

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

how silly. there's no one in the world that would want to be you when they could be me.

keep making animal sounds, it fits your kindergarten mentality.

Actually, if i could be anyone or anything I would be Anna Paquin's bicycle seat.

cosis · 01-08-2003, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

You must be gay. Thats a girls car.

Like a VW Rabbit or a Mazda Miata.

GIRLS CAR ! GIRLS CAR ! COSIS DRIVES A GIRLS CAR !

Better take that Sinead O'Connor outta the CD Player you sick son of a bitch!

Maybe your right, my next SUV will be a Navigator...... These 4runners are to good on gas

Backov · 01-08-2003, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

Dude, um maybe in some back woods part of the world they are a status symbol but here where I live, they're just something to get around in.

If you're an american then you know that the world revolves around us and we'll drive whatever the fuck we want.

I dunno, I'd still say they are a status symbol.. You can't tell me some rich soccer mom couldn't do just as well with a mini-van as she could with a $60k (or more, dunno) Mercedes SUV.. That's status symbol, as pure as it gets.

Same as the wannabe pimps with their Escalades.. Status symbol.

Anyway, no point arguing about it. The sheeple will continue to buy SUVs for years until the fad fades out, or the terrorists get more successful in blowing them up. ;>

Cheers,
Backov

12clicks · 01-08-2003, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

Actually, if i could be anyone or anything I would be Anna Paquin's bicycle seat.

I'd go for humor too if my dick was stomped on like that too.

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
If you're an american then you know that the world revolves around us and we'll drive whatever the fuck we want.

Heres a translation you're more likely to get...

Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

TRANSLATION: SUV Owners drove around with callous abandon while the environment suffered.

Fletch XXX · 01-08-2003, 01:33 PM

The Tv also says people who smoke marijuana support terrorism.

join the crowd.

greentea must have a gang of terrorist friends, blunts and SUVs all day, 24 hour parlay.

puff puff Akbar!

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
I'd go for humor too if my dick was stomped on like that too.

Nope...my genes just happened to have skipped the AGGRESSIVELY INSECURE gene that your DNA latched on to.

DX · 01-08-2003, 01:34 PM

Just saw this on the news....
Arianna Huffington.. all her money comes from oil, and drove a lincoln navigator up to about a year ago.

12clicks · 01-08-2003, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by Backov

I dunno, I'd still say they are a status symbol.. You can't tell me some rich soccer mom couldn't do just as well with a mini-van as she could with a $60k (or more, dunno) Mercedes SUV.. That's status symbol, as pure as it gets.

well if that makes you feel good, believe it.

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov

Anyway, no point arguing about it. The sheeple will continue to buy SUVs for years until the fad fades out, or the terrorists get more successful in blowing them up. ;>
Cheers,
Backov

and the poor will continue to believe that the rich are sheeple and that only the poor really understand the world.

sad...........

12clicks · 01-08-2003, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

Nope...my genes just happened to have skipped the AGGRESSIVELY INSECURE gene that your DNA latched on to.

nah, your gene pool lacks the success gene. its good that you latched onto the tree hugger gene. That way, you can pretend your hating of your betters is about what they do, not what they have.

traffictrader · 01-08-2003, 01:38 PM

SUVs are super bad for the environment, and reasource management (we only have a finite amout of oil in the world)

but the U.S. governement LOVES them, thats why due to current tax loopholes if you own a small busniess (RE your porn site is inc.) you can buy a $75000 suv for around $50000 after tax write off.

god bless america

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

and the poor will continue to believe that the rich are sheeple and that only the poor really understand the world. sad...........

Scary how your backward thought process classifies people who disagree with you as POOR and people who agree with you as RICH.

Anyone can recommend a good psychiatrist for 12clicks? Maybe a lady friend to massage his/her ego a bit more?

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

nah, your gene pool lacks the success gene. its good that you latched onto the tree hugger gene. That way, you can pretend your hating of your betters is about what they do, not what they have.

HA...not two seconds after my last post you prove your intellect again by once again drawing logically incoherent parallells between RICH and POOR to intellectual perspective.

You are obviously pretty insecure about something.....too bad i dont care what.

12clicks · 01-08-2003, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by traffictrader
SUVs are super bad for the environment, and reasource management (we only have a finite amout of oil in the world)

but the U.S. governement LOVES them, thats why due to current tax loopholes if you own a small busniess (RE your porn site is inc.) you can buy a $75000 suv for around $50000 after tax write off.

god bless america

Are you an uninformed canadian or a lying liberal?
your above statement is simply not true.

Backov · 01-08-2003, 01:43 PM

12Clicks, it never ceases to amaze me. Everyone who knows you says you're an intelligent guy..

Why do you get in on these threads when you're (obviously) bored - dude, if ya can't be bothered to discuss this like an adult instead of making little attacks, why even bother?

I know you're capable of logic, and you obviously are unable to refute mine, as you didn't even try.

So relax man, it's a thread about SUVs, it's not your dick. You don't have to defend it.

And I have to agree with MrPopup - you have this unfortunate tendency to classify anyone who disagrees with you as either:

1) Jealous/Poor
2) Cheater/Scammer
3) Thief/Whatever

You never make any attempt at civilized discourse. In fact, I think you're pretty much the only person on this board I can think of who NEVER says anything worth reading.. Why is that?

Anyway, with that diagnosis of your posting habits done, I'm out. ;>

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

Are you an uninformed canadian or a lying liberal?
your above statement is simply not true.

WAIT...you forgot to label him as RICH or POOR..c'mon 12clicks...whatever world you're living in you think you could at least be consistent.

Gman.357 · 01-08-2003, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov

I dunno, I'd still say they are a status symbol.. You can't tell me some rich soccer mom couldn't do just as well with a mini-van as she could with a $60k (or more, dunno) Mercedes SUV.. That's status symbol, as pure as it gets.

Same as the wannabe pimps with their Escalades.. Status symbol.

Anyway, no point arguing about it. The sheeple will continue to buy SUVs for years until the fad fades out, or the terrorists get more successful in blowing them up. ;>

Cheers,
Backov

You might be right, but it's a status symbol to whome?

If you have the money and are trying to impress others with (and without) money, then buy something you can't get at the local car lot.

12clicks · 01-08-2003, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

HA...not two seconds after my last post you prove your intellect again by once again drawing logically incoherent parallells between RICH and POOR to intellectual perspective.

You are obviously pretty insecure about something.....too bad i dont care what.

ok, I'll point out your lack of intellect as well.
You mrpopup, bitch about all things american. your envy of all things american is scary. you can't afford an SUV so you bitch about them and *pretend* or *lie* about the harm they do.
3rd world countries and countries like canada who still use 3rd world technology do far more harm to the environment than all the SUVs that will ever be made.

no run along you silly little envious boy.

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
Are you an uninformed canadian or a lying liberal?
your above statement is simply not true.

Sorry....UNINFORMED and CANADIAN are mutually exclusive concepts.

jammyjenkins · 01-08-2003, 01:50 PM

12Clicks = Serge - Intelligence

12clicks · 01-08-2003, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

WAIT...you forgot to label him as RICH or POOR..c'mon 12clicks...whatever world you're living in you think you could at least be consistent.

I don't lable anyone I simple point out facts. *you* are poor and dopey. I'm still trying to figure out what your friend here is. that's what the question is for.

quiet · 01-08-2003, 01:52 PM

12clicks · 01-08-2003, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by jammyjenkins
12Clicks = Serge - Intelligence

hahahahaha, yeah, you're the smart one. I forgot!

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

you can't afford an SUV so you bitch about them and *pretend* or *lie* about the harm they do.

Yes ladies and gentleman....he does it again. As soon as someone presents a point he disputes - his brain clicks into this automatic mode.

Okay, for the sake of his ego, I will pacify him:

I call this ODE TO 12CLICKS

12clicks you have such a huge wallet,
Oh your girlfriend is so pretty,
You are so great because of your plasma tv,
That SUV must mean you are smart,
Your dick must be huge,
Gee, your parents must have really loved you

Is that better? Did wubby-bubby get his bobo back? I'm real GLAD you were able to put me in my place and set the RECORD straight.

12clicks · 01-08-2003, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

Okay, for the sake of his ego, I will pacify him:

I call this ODE TO 12CLICKS

12clicks you have such a huge wallet,
Oh your girlfriend is so pretty,
You are so great because of your plasma tv,
That SUV must mean you are smart,
Your dick must be huge,
Gee, your parents must have really loved you

so now you know all about me. don't let the envy kill you.

ChrisH · 01-08-2003, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov
I know you're capable of logic, and you obviously are unable to refute mine, as you didn't even try.

Bakov,
Mind pointing out the logic in this stupid statement?

"Bah, fuck SUVs and the little dick motherfuckers that have to have them."

You are the pot calling 12clicks black. Too fucking funny!!!

I own two SUV's I like them and so does my wife and children. You got a problem with that? Too bad pal. I paid for them, I insure them, and I pay for the fuel for them.

You go drive your Yugo if you like. I'm NOT!!

Backov · 01-08-2003, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisH

Bakov,
Mind pointing out the logic in this stupid statement?

"Bah, fuck SUVs and the little dick motherfuckers that have to have them."

You are the pot calling 12clicks black. Too fucking funny!!!

I own two SUV's I like them and so does my wife and children. You got a problem with that? Too bad pal. I paid for them, I insure them, and I pay for the fuel for them.

You go drive your Yugo if you like. I'm NOT!!

I don't recall making a one line post about this, slapdick.

You are barely literate, much less intelligent enough to be getting into this.

You are certainly within your rights to own and drive SUVs. I am within my rights to think you are a fuckhead, which you so obviously are.

Now piss off.

jammyjenkins · 01-08-2003, 02:22 PM

12Clicks = Serge - Wit

ChrisH · 01-08-2003, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov

I don't recall making a one line post about this, slapdick.

You are barely literate, much less intelligent enough to be getting into this.

You are certainly within your rights to own and drive SUVs. I am within my rights to think you are a fuckhead, which you so obviously are.

Now piss off.

Too funny. That is YOUR statement jerkoff! You call him the samething you do.

So you drive one of those deathtraps or what. If you do you must not like you, or your family much!!

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisH
I own two SUV's I like them and so does my wife and children. You got a problem with that? Too bad pal. I paid for them, I insure them, and I pay for the fuel for them.

Dont forget how much your kids will be paying when:

They cant eat farm grown crops
They cant breathe the air
They cant drink water from the tap

You win the DAD OF THE YEAR award for short sightedness and blinding stupidity so

But who cares right? You and your wifey-poo get to drive around and be cool in your idiot-mobiles while teaching your offspring how great it is to POLLUTE the fucking planet without caring about anyone else.

Go get sterile...quick!

Rip · 01-08-2003, 02:32 PM

I need a SUV to tow my boat, because if I had a honda civic the boat would pull it back into the water, or else crush it, when i try and hitch it up

the rest of the bimbos driving them, need them, because who else would create more room on the highways, by rolling their SUV into the ditches

MrPopup · 01-08-2003, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rip
I need a SUV to tow my boat, because if I had a honda civic the boat would pull it back into the water, or else crush it, when i try and hitch it up

See...I dont disagree with this. At least its for a reason other then status symbol.

However, when MOM and DAD FUCKWAD each own an SUV to schlep around their FATASS little kids from home to school because the kids are too LAZY to walk 5 blocks - then we have a problem.

ryph · 01-08-2003, 02:36 PM

Goddamn, I had no idea people really hated suv's this much. I pesonally don't own one, but if I had the cash, I probably would. They make great winter cars.

I honestly don't see the problem with suvs.

ok, so they're gas guzzlers and harm the environment. So what.. Can everyone here honestly say that they recycle every piece of paper and glass bottles here? Or if you care about the environment so much, do you go and volunteer your time at some local cleanup? Probably not.

suv's piss you off on the road. Maybe you should learn to drive more aggressively. They don't piss me off, and I roll around with a lil jetta.

and suv's support terromism. lmfao. just like pot.

Basically, nobody has any right to care what the next person drives; or smokes for that matter. It's just people who have nothing better todo that come up with ways to make the "world a better place"

To bad it's making the world better in only their eyes, and not others.

O well, that's my rant for the day.

01-08-2003, 11:59 AM	#1
MrPopup Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: on the internet Posts: 3,783	SATAN DRIVES AN SUV: TV Ads Say S.U.V. Owners Support Terrorists This is some sweet irony for anyone who has ever seen those AD COUNCIL "if you buy drugs you support terrorism" spots... ******************************** TV Ads Say S.U.V. Owners Support Terrorists By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE ASHINGTON, Jan. 7 ? Ratcheting up the debate over sport utility vehicles, new television commercials suggest that people who buy the vehicles are supporting terrorists. The commercials are so provocative that some television stations are refusing to run them. Patterned after the commercials that try to discourage drug use by suggesting that profits from illegal drugs go to terrorists, the new commercials say that money for gas needed for S.U.V.'s goes to terrorists. "This is George," a girl's voice says of an oblivious man at a gas station. "This is the gas that George bought for his S.U.V." The screen then shows a map of the Middle East. "These are the countries where the executives bought the oil that made the gas that George bought for his S.U.V." The picture switches to a scene of armed terrorists in a desert. "And these are the terrorists who get money from those countries every time George fills up his S.U.V." A second commercial depicts a series of ordinary Americans saying things like: "I helped hijack an airplane"; "I gave money to a terrorist training camp in a foreign country"; "What if I need to go off-road?" At the close, the screen is filled with the words: "What is your S.U.V. doing to our national security?" The two 30-second commercials are the brainchild of the author and columnist Arianna Huffington. Her target audience, she said, is Detroit and Congress, especially the Republicans and Democrats who last year voted against a bill, sponsored by Senators John McCain, Republican of Arizona, and John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, that would have raised fuel-efficiency standards. Spokesmen for the automakers dismissed the commercials. Eron Shosteck, a spokesman for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, said of Ms. Huffington, "Her opinion is out-voted every year by Americans who buy S.U.V.'s for their safety, comfort and versatility." He said that S.U.V.'s now account for 21 percent of the market. In an interview, Senator Kerry distanced himself from the commercials. He said that rather than oppose S.U.V.'s outright, he believed they should be more efficient. "I haven't seen these commercials," he said, "but anybody can drive as large an S.U.V. as they want, though it can be more efficient than it is today." Ms. Huffington's group, which calls itself the Detroit Project, has bought almost $200,000 of air time for the commercials, to run from Sunday to Thursday. While the group may lose some viewers if stations refuse to run the advertisements, the message is attracting attention through news coverage. The advertisements are to be broadcast on "Meet The Press," "Face the Nation" and "This Week With George Stephanopoulos" in Detroit, Los Angeles, New York and Washington. But some local affiliates say they will not run them. At the ABC affiliate in New York, Art Moore, director of programming, said, "There were a lot of statements being made that were not backed up, and they're talking about hot-button issues." Ms. Huffington said she got the idea for the commercials while watching the antidrug commercials, sponsored by the Bush administration. In her syndicated column, she asked readers if they would be willing to pay for "a people's ad campaign to jolt our leaders into reality." She said she received 5,000 e-mail messages and eventually raised $50,000 from the public. Bigger contributors included Steve Bing, the film producer; Larry David, the comedian and "Seinfeld" co-creator; and Norman Lear, the television producer. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/08/bu...ner=ALTAVISTA1

01-08-2003, 12:11 PM	#2
salsbury Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,070	heh, FINALLY! at least this shit makes more sense than "if you buy marijuana you're supporting terrorism". __________________

01-08-2003, 12:27 PM	#5
[The Leader] Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Van City Posts: 1,026	Holly shit this is getting rediculous. I smoke pot and drive an SUV, so...I'm a terrorist? That's such bullshit, then I suppose the President of the USA is the biggest terrorist I've ever seen, he's always driving an SUV or 2500 truck. __________________ <br> <embed src="http://www.bigleaguebetting.com/ph.swf?http://www.prohosters.com" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60" menu="false" quality="high"><br>

01-08-2003, 12:33 PM	#7
salsbury Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,070	while i do think that it's about time this ad came up (because, really, buying oil has a much greater chance of supporting terrorism than buying pot (even granted that the US produces a bunch of oil, and gets a bunch from Canada)), i think it's funny that it misses a key point. someone driving a geo metro as a regional sales guy would buy more gas than a soccer mom driving her SUV to the store and back. you might even be able to suggest that you're supporting terrorism by buying any products at stores. lots are shipped by truck, many shipped by oil-consuming boats. __________________

01-08-2003, 12:34 PM	#8
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	It's more logically sound then the pot argument. SUVs are a fucking joke.. A modern SUV gets the same or less gas mileage then a 70 GTO. Yes, that's right, the muscle car from the 70s has better efficiency then the 03 monster SUV. If you make me I'll cite specific numbers. Problem with SUVs is the bastard auto makers are exploiting a loophole in the law.. They're classified as "light trucks" which makes them exempt from the same standards that cars get. If you don't think SUVs are a problem, chances are you own one and have never been behind a Navigator driven by a single white guy. Not to mention the whole fireball deathtrap aspect of a lot of them. Kudos to Fords (I believe it was Ford?) PR department for putting the blame on Firestone, when it was their damn shitty SUVs that were flipping and killing people because of a simple blowout. Bah, fuck SUVs and the little dick motherfuckers that have to have them. __________________ <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

01-08-2003, 12:22 PM	#3
DX Feed me coffee. Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Massafuckingchusetts Posts: 1,128	http://www.detroitproject.com/ads/default.htm commercials are there. Fuck celebrities and their pet projects.

01-08-2003, 12:23 PM	#4
volante Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LAX Immigration Posts: 2,940	I wonder if they realise how much oil the USA produces?

01-08-2003, 12:31 PM	#6
ChrisH Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,355	FUCK THEM SELF RIGHTEOUS ASSHOLES. At the end of those antidrug.com commercials. They should show a picture of the US, then a picture of the Poppy Fields in Afghanistan. Then say, If the US government had destroyed these fields, there wouldn't have been an arms for drugs deal in Hong Kong! F U C K T H E M!!!!!!!!!!!

01-08-2003, 01:33 PM	#23
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	The Tv also says people who smoke marijuana support terrorism. join the crowd. greentea must have a gang of terrorist friends, blunts and SUVs all day, 24 hour parlay. puff puff Akbar! __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

01-08-2003, 01:34 PM	#25
DX Feed me coffee. Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Massafuckingchusetts Posts: 1,128	Just saw this on the news.... Arianna Huffington.. all her money comes from oil, and drove a lincoln navigator up to about a year ago.

01-08-2003, 01:38 PM	#28
traffictrader Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ICQ# 93507395 Posts: 1,331	SUVs are super bad for the environment, and reasource management (we only have a finite amout of oil in the world) but the U.S. governement LOVES them, thats why due to current tax loopholes if you own a small busniess (RE your porn site is inc.) you can buy a $75000 suv for around $50000 after tax write off. god bless america __________________

01-08-2003, 01:43 PM	#32
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	12Clicks, it never ceases to amaze me. Everyone who knows you says you're an intelligent guy.. Why do you get in on these threads when you're (obviously) bored - dude, if ya can't be bothered to discuss this like an adult instead of making little attacks, why even bother? I know you're capable of logic, and you obviously are unable to refute mine, as you didn't even try. So relax man, it's a thread about SUVs, it's not your dick. You don't have to defend it. And I have to agree with MrPopup - you have this unfortunate tendency to classify anyone who disagrees with you as either: 1) Jealous/Poor 2) Cheater/Scammer 3) Thief/Whatever You never make any attempt at civilized discourse. In fact, I think you're pretty much the only person on this board I can think of who NEVER says anything worth reading.. Why is that? Anyway, with that diagnosis of your posting habits done, I'm out. ;> __________________ <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

01-08-2003, 01:50 PM	#37
jammyjenkins So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,371	12Clicks = Serge - Intelligence

01-08-2003, 01:52 PM	#39
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	__________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

01-08-2003, 02:22 PM	#45
jammyjenkins So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,371	12Clicks = Serge - Wit

01-08-2003, 02:32 PM	#48
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	I need a SUV to tow my boat, because if I had a honda civic the boat would pull it back into the water, or else crush it, when i try and hitch it up the rest of the bimbos driving them, need them, because who else would create more room on the highways, by rolling their SUV into the ditches

01-08-2003, 02:36 PM	#50
ryph Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 1,215	Goddamn, I had no idea people really hated suv's this much. I pesonally don't own one, but if I had the cash, I probably would. They make great winter cars. I honestly don't see the problem with suvs. ok, so they're gas guzzlers and harm the environment. So what.. Can everyone here honestly say that they recycle every piece of paper and glass bottles here? Or if you care about the environment so much, do you go and volunteer your time at some local cleanup? Probably not. suv's piss you off on the road. Maybe you should learn to drive more aggressively. They don't piss me off, and I roll around with a lil jetta. and suv's support terromism. lmfao. just like pot. Basically, nobody has any right to care what the next person drives; or smokes for that matter. It's just people who have nothing better todo that come up with ways to make the "world a better place" To bad it's making the world better in only their eyes, and not others. O well, that's my rant for the day. __________________ tom at ryphs dot com