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Old 09-05-2010, 05:34 AM   #1501
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Looks like others saw this coming and acted, shame Epass didn't.
http://www.payoneer.com/faq.aspx#Using_your_card

My Payoneer card has an expiration date that is months away, but I am being advised by Payoneer that I need to replace my card within the next two months. Why I am I required to replace a card that continues to be valid?
As part of our ongoing effort to enhance the services we offer, Payoneer is now issuing new cards to some of our cardholders. The cards will be issued with a new bank, and will provide immediate benefits as well as a platform for offering additional services in the near future.

How is the new card different?
Payoneer has selected a new issuing bank and with this change will be issuing the new Payoneer Choice MasterCard card. The main immediate benefit to users will be higher daily withdrawal and spending limits.

What are the daily limits on the Payoneer Choice MasterCard card?
The new limits are these:
Daily withdrawal limit (at ATMs or with bank tellers): $2500
Daily purchase limit: $2500
Total daily spending limit: $5000

What do I need to do to replace my card?
To prevent disruption in service, order your new Payoneer Choice MasterCard card today:
1. Log into your account at www.payoneer.com
2. Request a new card.
The new card will be shipped to you FREE of cost within a few days; you will be charged no shipping charges or activation fees. You can use your current card until you receive the new one.

What happens if I don?t order a new card?
Between July and August 2010, existing Payoneer cards issued by MetaBank will cease to be loaded with payouts (the exact end date for loading varies by partner program). If your existing card has a balance on it, you will be able to use the card until two months from the notification date, but no new funds will be loaded to this card.
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:35 AM   #1502
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So we reached magic number! Now epass ... please release our money ;)
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:36 AM   #1503
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NO to all of the above.
I'm not accusing anyone of anything.
Quoting an article doesn't mean that I agree and endorse or believe everything or anything in it.
If I had quoted ONLY the bit that bother you...That would be another story.

That article as some interesting points about epassporte..and its survival capacity.

I personally always have had a great experience with epass and hope that are back to normal asap.
You posted a 3 year old post/article filled with incorrect facts and accusations of the worst kind AND without showing its 3 years old and your surprised people are attacking you for that?
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:37 AM   #1504
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anyone know of the top of their head international wire prices from epass? Also do epass send cheques? ta
$50 for wires, we do not offer cheques.
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:38 AM   #1505
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I just learned that VISA prepaid cards are indeed filled with the money on them. Meaning that if VISA decides to block these kind of cards, the money will be frozen on them.

Hopefully it's possible to release them....
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:41 AM   #1506
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You posted a 3 year old post/article filled with incorrect facts and accusations of the worst kind AND without showing its 3 years old and your surprised people are attacking you for that?
Michael you have all my support for what you do. You are one the best guys in the biz
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:43 AM   #1507
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Michael, I sent you an email 2 days ago. Sent it again right now. Can you look into it please? Thanks!
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:44 AM   #1508
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anyone know of the top of their head international wire prices from epass? Also do epass send cheques? ta
Read the fucking thread, but if you've just woke up also and still busy with your coffee, its $50.
No cheques.
https://www.epassporte.com/secure/js...sp#WITHDRAWALS
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:56 AM   #1509
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Yeah I thought WTF after reading the first couple of lines.

That is an OLD post from somewhere.
Old post or not, that is a disturbing bit of information.
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:59 AM   #1510
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Looks like others saw this coming and acted, shame Epass didn't.
http://www.payoneer.com/faq.aspx#Using_your_card

My Payoneer card has an expiration date that is months away, but I am being advised by Payoneer that I need to replace my card within the next two months. Why I am I required to replace a card that continues to be valid?
As part of our ongoing effort to enhance the services we offer, Payoneer is now issuing new cards to some of our cardholders. The cards will be issued with a new bank, and will provide immediate benefits as well as a platform for offering additional services in the near future.

How is the new card different?
Payoneer has selected a new issuing bank and with this change will be issuing the new Payoneer Choice MasterCard card. The main immediate benefit to users will be higher daily withdrawal and spending limits.

What are the daily limits on the Payoneer Choice MasterCard card?
The new limits are these:
Daily withdrawal limit (at ATMs or with bank tellers): $2500
Daily purchase limit: $2500
Total daily spending limit: $5000

What do I need to do to replace my card?
To prevent disruption in service, order your new Payoneer Choice MasterCard card today:
1. Log into your account at www.payoneer.com
2. Request a new card.
The new card will be shipped to you FREE of cost within a few days; you will be charged no shipping charges or activation fees. You can use your current card until you receive the new one.

What happens if I don?t order a new card?
Between July and August 2010, existing Payoneer cards issued by MetaBank will cease to be loaded with payouts (the exact end date for loading varies by partner program). If your existing card has a balance on it, you will be able to use the card until two months from the notification date, but no new funds will be loaded to this card.
Payoneer sends their cards for free too. What's ePass charging for a replacement card these days $50?
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Old 09-05-2010, 06:00 AM   #1511
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Do you believe Epass exploits children as per the statements in your original post?
Almost everyone in the world exploits children from developing countries by consuming their products which are often made by child slave labor. Exploitation doesn't always have to be sexual.
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Old 09-05-2010, 06:01 AM   #1512
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to my understanding Epassporte always recommended to keep the money in the wallet for security purposes (as we can now see).
to protect against people using a lost card. This is is something totally different.
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Old 09-05-2010, 06:05 AM   #1513
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to protect against people using a lost card. This is is something totally different.
which might mean that keeping it in the wallet is safer than having it assigned to the visa account.......
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Old 09-05-2010, 06:06 AM   #1514
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If epassporte users knew a visa ban or other problems would block their funds in the virtual account and not the ewallet, 100% of the users would have their funds in the e-wallet.
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Old 09-05-2010, 06:07 AM   #1515
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You posted a 3 year old post/article filled with incorrect facts and accusations of the worst kind AND without showing its 3 years old and your surprised people are attacking you for that?
Keyser Soze - may I still call you that? - the crap he posted in that original post marked the first time I've actually been raging, ready to go ballistic, angry. I had to take my seven month old puppy and go out for a walk to calm down. We walked the half mile down to Lake Ontario and watched the water for an hour. Sat at the top of the Scarborough Bluffs. So calm, so beautiful...

Then I came back to GFY and realized that I was still pissed off. In nine years, I have rarely seen anything so objectionable.

Regardless of what happens with Epass, you have offered me support beyond what I pay you (which is nothing), and Epass has helped me expand my business by opening up new markets, and by allowing me to work with new people.

I will wait until this is cleared up and - no matter what happens - I will be thankful for everything that you and Epass have helped me accomplish.

I wish you the best - and I hope you can soon get a good night's sleep.
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Old 09-05-2010, 06:13 AM   #1516
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Will epass will send new cards to be vailidate in visa atm? or we can still used our old card?
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Old 09-05-2010, 06:17 AM   #1517
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Will epass will send new cards to be vailidate in visa atm? or we can still used our old card?
Noone knows yet. My guess is we will see new cards so for me...

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Old 09-05-2010, 06:23 AM   #1518
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Almost everyone in the world exploits children from developing countries by consuming their products which are often made by child slave labor. Exploitation doesn't always have to be sexual.
Nice try. His original quote specifically named Mr. Mallick and Epass as exploiters of children. There was no mention of Chinese kids making Levi's for Walmart in that post. Of the two brain cells you have left, which one told you to spew out this irrelevant bullshit?

2 cents. 2 brain cells.

You are an absolute, complete, daft idiot. So now Mr. Mallick has Chinese children pumping out jeans and t-shirts for his GAP franchise? What the fuck are you saying?

Everyone exploits someone else. The post I quoted implicitly states that Mr. Mallick and Epass donate money to children's charities to deflect criticism from their sexual exploitation of children.

How fucking stupid are you? Really? You are THAT fucking stupid.

I will not reply anymore, because this thread is not only ridiculous (and probably libelous), the accusations contained herein are beyond insanity.

I know neither Michael Olsen nor Christopher Mallick on a personal level. The accusations I'm reading in this thread are making me physically sick.

I'm walking away.
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Old 09-05-2010, 06:33 AM   #1519
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Assume you will have to provide documents when adding a card to withdraw to.

The name on the card must be the same name as on your account, address on statement must be the same as on your account.
Thanks Michael, that pretty much clears up my UK issues.

For my Thai account which is already document verified, do I need to provide any bank documents for a wire transfer?
As you may know its not easy getting English written documents here, I only have a passbook with just my name.
My bank visa debit card doesn't even have my name on it, fucks sake
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Old 09-05-2010, 07:04 AM   #1520
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Guys, your money on epass is safe. Visa can't keep the funds on prepaid cards, but can only temporary block them. The money will eventually release, that's just matter of time.
I was never worried about the money on my account, only with the option that epass wont come up from this and will get out of the business, which is also small chance imo.
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Old 09-05-2010, 07:08 AM   #1521
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the worst fallout will be in the next couple weeks if people can't pay for hosting and domains, so those companies will hurt, people buying less services - designs, traffic, writers -by the time people get checks it will be too late for many and they will move on. if people can't get epass again by the second half of the month there will be a big hole in an already hurting biz. and that's no joke. even if you are not affected immediately, a whole shit load of commerce is going to leave.
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the worst fallout will be in the next couple weeks if people can't pay for hosting and domains, so those companies will hurt, people buying less services - designs, traffic, writers -by the time people get checks it will be too late for many and they will move on. if people can't get epass again by the second half of the month there will be a big hole in an already hurting biz. and that's no joke. even if you are not affected immediately, a whole shit load of commerce is going to leave.
I think by far this is one of the smartest things you have ever said... Ever..
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Old 09-05-2010, 07:58 AM   #1523
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the worst fallout will be in the next couple weeks if people can't pay for hosting and domains, so those companies will hurt, people buying less services - designs, traffic, writers -by the time people get checks it will be too late for many and they will move on. if people can't get epass again by the second half of the month there will be a big hole in an already hurting biz. and that's no joke. even if you are not affected immediately, a whole shit load of commerce is going to leave.
Very well said!

I accept a whole deal of payment types as a convenience to my clients, but 95% preferred epass because they get paid from sponsors via epass.

Even though I accept PP, WMZ, Payoneer, Money Bookers, Major Credit Cards and Visa/Mastercard Debit biz is going to be hurting, just like for many other service providers since our clients can't pay due to their money being tied up/frozen.
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Vbiz is going to be hurting, just like for many other service providers since our clients can't pay due to their money being tied up/frozen.
yup. and can adult at this point take a large chunk of their commerce evaporating for a month? maybe, and although guys like shap can laugh, all of this will eventually travel up the chain and shake shit up.

the point i'm trying to make is that it sucks that money is locked, but the bigger issue is this month when tons of adult biz grinds to a halt if people can't receive money and pay. shit will get fucked up.

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Old 09-05-2010, 08:05 AM   #1525
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Can you still transfer money to another Epass account if your money is tied up on your Virtual Visa card? I'm sure it has been answered here but I can't find it...
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all money in virtual visa is frozen, so i think just from the wallet.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:12 AM   #1527
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Payoneer sends their cards for free too. What's ePass charging for a replacement card these days $50?
I think they will have to send new ones for free, although somehow I think it won't be visa cards anymore, maybe MasterCard which is not great cause I used My virtual Visa to get money from Paypal and you can't do that with MasterCard...
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The shady part is: we are not being told why VISA froze the accounts.
This question has not been asked often enough in this thread.
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I am getting a little tired of being told that my money is "safe". Money that I cannot access, money that nobody knows whether or when I will ever be able to get, is not "safe and secure".

In response to the initial message from Epassporte before I ever saw this thread, I sent (without much hope, having had such bad luck with general Epassporte support before) a message center inquiry asking how I could access the funds locked on my Virtual Visa. This is what they told me:
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available in your Visa Virtual Card (Account). As per the new update
received from our Account Verification Department, you will be unable to
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Our Account Verification Department is working to resolve the issue. Only
once the issue is resolved, you will be able to use the funds which are
available in your Visa Virtual Card. The funds are safe and secure.
Thank you so much Swaroop S. for precisely nothing. I don't think 'safe and secure' means the same thing your dialect of English as it does in mine.
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I am getting a little tired of being told that my money is "safe". Money that I cannot access, money that nobody knows whether or when I will ever be able to get, is not "safe and secure".

In response to the initial message from Epassporte before I ever saw this thread, I sent (without much hope, having had such bad luck with general Epassporte support before) a message center inquiry asking how I could access the funds locked on my Virtual Visa. This is what they told me:

Thank you so much Swaroop S. for precisely nothing. I don't think 'safe and secure' means the same thing your dialect of English as it does in mine.
We're all pretty much in the same boat here dude.
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Nice try. His original quote specifically named Mr. Mallick and Epass as exploiters of children. There was no mention of Chinese kids making Levi's for Walmart in that post. Of the two brain cells you have left, which one told you to spew out this irrelevant bullshit?

2 cents. 2 brain cells.

You are an absolute, complete, daft idiot. So now Mr. Mallick has Chinese children pumping out jeans and t-shirts for his GAP franchise? What the fuck are you saying?

Everyone exploits someone else. The post I quoted implicitly states that Mr. Mallick and Epass donate money to children's charities to deflect criticism from their sexual exploitation of children.

How fucking stupid are you? Really? You are THAT fucking stupid.

I will not reply anymore, because this thread is not only ridiculous (and probably libelous), the accusations contained herein are beyond insanity.

I know neither Michael Olsen nor Christopher Mallick on a personal level. The accusations I'm reading in this thread are making me physically sick.

I'm walking away.
Calm down dude. It will all work itself out. Take another walk with your puppy (and post some pics - awww).

People react emotionally (understandably) when their entire financial house comes crashing down. WHERE'S MY FUCKING MONEY??? So the only thing to do is wait. What else can be done? Go legal? How? Where?

I feel bad for everyone affected, and I've been through situations where my money was cut-off with no notice. Very frightening. I hope this all works out for everyone, I really do.
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i think it's a bit erly to say about fail of MM. The movie isn't for all, u r right. But MM may get some proceeds in EU and from DVDs. It has chances to win some awards on specific fests which will stimulate its popularity (not Cannes but Berlin, Prague and others), why not? Not only shit happens.
Have hou have ever been to the Berlin Film Festival ???? lol ..

Do you think Middle Men could with the " Lion d'Or " ?

I was there, invited all expenses paid , by the Festival. That year I bought the rights for Canada to an obscure film called " The Vanishing " , directed by Georgez Sluizer ( shot in Deutch & French ) . That movies was a hit for me , and was later redone in the USA with a happy ending to please american viewers .

Middle Men is no where near that :

The film IS a flop, has no legs , and will remain a flop . At one point, some people doing a documentary on the porn business will include a small excerpt and credit the movie .... that is the best future it has ...
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same here, illmake sureto contact both webair and yellowfiber on monday during bizhours and get a solution going with them, as i dont have any other cc then my epass card.
Do they have prepaid cards ( Visa or MC gift cards ) in your country ? If so, that works fine.
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The shady part is: we are not being told why VISA froze the accounts.
This question has not been asked often enough in this thread.

although I do not necessarily consider this to be shady, but I am very curious as to what exactly happened to cause all this
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:51 AM   #1536
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what is the point that my money is "safe" when i can't use them? Safe for who?
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:17 AM   #1537
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to my understanding Epassporte always recommended to keep the money in the wallet for security purposes (as we can now see).
not for this. they recommended it so that if your card gets stolen they would not be able to use your money (because it all or most of it were in the wallet)
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:44 AM   #1538
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good Sunday afternoon, I am not reeading every single new post, is all solved now?
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:51 AM   #1540
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One question for Michael... if epass got that warning two days before it all happened why epass didn't make some statement and inform users to withdraw all money they can because there gonna be some problems (maybe)
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:08 PM   #1541
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:28 PM   #1542
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why epass didn't make some statement and inform users to withdraw all money they can because there gonna be some problems
you must be joking...
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:40 PM   #1543
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Please stop speculating nonsense. Its time to sit and wait for the resolution next week. Meanwhile it would be great if most sponsors start working in an alternative backup payment method to Epassporte just if this happens again. Looks like OKPAY is a nice option with debit Mastercard and P2P transfers.
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:41 PM   #1544
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hahahaha ya, institutions warning us that problems are coming so we take our money and they go all happy to bankruptcy!
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I just learned that VISA prepaid cards are indeed filled with the money on them. Meaning that if VISA decides to block these kind of cards, the money will be frozen on them.

Hopefully it's possible to release them....
I think that when this all calms down we will all be supplying ID, utility bills/banking and it will all need to match and the funds should, hopefully, be released after that but doubt it will be quick.

I hope what you learned that the money is on the visa cards is read by the Visa geniuses, banking gurus and the rest who seem to want to inflame a truly bad situation into something far worse.
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Please stop speculating nonsense. Its time to sit and wait for the resolution next week. Meanwhile it would be great if most sponsors start working in an alternative backup payment method to Epassporte just if this happens again. Looks like OKPAY is a nice option with debit Mastercard and P2P transfers.
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One question for Michael... if epass got that warning two days before it all happened why epass didn't make some statement and inform users to withdraw all money they can because there gonna be some problems (maybe)
Stupid questions get... no answers.
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I was just about to request a new card. Damn, i'm broke anyways...i only have $5 on my virtual card. I assume everything will now be stored in Wallet right?
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