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halfpint 09-04-2010 08:37 PM

Michael

How certian are you that funds locked into our virtual accounts will be released at some point

cheers

gaffg 09-04-2010 08:41 PM

can funds still be withdrawn into bank accounts? If so then I don't see what all the fuss is about

Spunky 09-04-2010 08:44 PM

I eat Kraft dinner because of this :(

mikesinner 09-04-2010 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USA (Post 17468976)
same here...I expect a free DVD middle man, and that's it, instead of money

hey, who is that in the gif in your sig?

majortom 09-04-2010 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garce (Post 17469310)
You've got to be fucking kidding. Seriously, if you agree with this statement please immediately shut down any adult sites you run and fuck off.

Whoever wrote this is stating - as fact - that Mr. Mallick is helping to finance the exploitation of children. And you fucking quote it? In the nine years I've been here, this may be the single most ridiculuous, vindictive, ripped-out-of-an-idiot's-ass accusation I have read on this board.

I do not know Chris Mallick at all, but this is the first thing I've read on GFY that has actually made me angry.

As I said in the post title: Found this "ePassporte Revealed" on the interweb. I cannot post the url per GFY rules.
I didn't write this article. I couldn't either post it truncated, it wouldn't be fair...Selective editing is never fair.
The part that disturb you, did disturb me as well, but it had to stay to preserve the full spirit of the article ...

As in; to show that the author is biased somehow against eppasporte and in a way weakens its own article objectivity and purpose.
Still, it looks like most of the infos there is valid and that Mr Mallick is no stranger to Chapter 7 bankruptcy.

We are all adult webmasters here and most of us noticed that there was something a little bit off in that article as Tempest did point to:
[QUOTE=tempest]I can use ePassporte to get access to porn? How's that? I wonder how many porn addicts have epass or even know about it.. :1orglaugh[/QOTE]

MontrealPimp 09-04-2010 09:08 PM

ahh yes that post sums a lot up actually, but keep it private, it will cause too much insanity if it goes public here

xmas13 09-04-2010 09:16 PM

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug...-side-20100809

Quote:

"Middle Men," about the beginnings of the online porn industry, grossed just $305,000 at 252 theaters, giving it an average take of only $1,210. Christopher Mallick, one of the movie's subjects, bankrolled its $20-million budget and paid for advertising. It was distributed, for a fee, by Paramount Pictures.

mightyjoe 09-04-2010 09:27 PM

Mallick and Middle Men

J. Christopher Malick is from Texas, and he has a checkered career in business. One company that handled accounts receivable for health services, went bankrupt; another was embroiled in a suit with MasterCard over costs associated with billing of pornographic sites.

Since 2008, Mallick has headed Oxymoron Productions, a film company that has several films in the works, including Middle Men, a film directed and written by George Gallo, that chronicles the life of someone who sounds quite a bit like the early career of Chris Mallick.

mightyjoe 09-04-2010 09:43 PM

http://thefilmstage.com/wp-content/u...sh-590x494.jpg

epitome 09-04-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17467629)
Im not sure how many of you had this experience:

A month ago i needed to get a new pass. It took weeks to get one because "the card embossing machine" had problems. Was it maybe more like: "Visa didnt want to be on the cards anymore" ?

Serious question btw. Happend, for real.

For the rest of it, im with michael o, although its hard to stay relaxed.

I really think they ARE trying to solve things, i just think the real reasons havent been put out in the open, and thats why most webmasters are freaking out.

Think logically. If you ended up getting the card then the answer is obviously no.

garce 09-04-2010 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by majortom (Post 17469461)
As I said in the post title: Found this "ePassporte Revealed" on the interweb. I cannot post the url per GFY rules.
I didn't write this article. I couldn't either post it truncated, it wouldn't be fair...Selective editing is never fair.
[/QOTE]

So you're accusing Christopher Mallick and Epassporte of enabling the exploitation of children via a random link you've found on the internet?

Truncation is irrelevant. Nothing was taken out of context. You support the theory that Epass functionality has been temporarily hindered due to activity involving the exploitation of minors. By quoting these random accuation under your own name, you agree that the opinions included within the quoted text mirror your own, and that you support the claims put forth by "some random, unnamed dude"..

Have you or have you not just confirmed your personal belief that Chrisopher Mallick and Epassporte promotes the propagation and desemmination of illegal activities involving the sexual exploitation children, and that the aforementioned entities evade prosecution of these alleged illegal activities due to arrangements they have made through unnamed charitable organizations?

Yes or no?

Do you believe Epass exploits children as per the statements in your original post?
Did you quote that bullshit because you can't access your account at this time?

Turboface 09-04-2010 10:50 PM

Bump.

:)

andrew-acs 09-04-2010 10:58 PM

They used our money to pay that movie, yeah? Just asking.

Michael O 09-04-2010 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17469443)
michael

how certian are you that funds locked into our virtual accounts will be released at some point

cheers

100% ....

Michael O 09-04-2010 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew-acs (Post 17469623)
They used our money to pay that movie, yeah? Just asking.


No 2 different companies and ePassporte can not access your funds to invest in other things at any time.

davethedope 09-04-2010 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightyjoe (Post 17469532)

I wouldn't have made this movie.

For 20 million he could have produced 20 indies- one of which would have had to hit a chord with the public and become a cult hit.

Bottom line in the end you'd have 20 indie films in circulation from young directors- rather than one big flop- and if you are prepared to take the hit- at least you'd have more movie rights to play with.

The subject is just not Hollywood. Women don't go see movies like that. Kids can't see them. Porn stars don't care about stuff like that- the only people who might find the subject interesting come to these boards. We should be flattered I suppose.

He probably got some bad advice the more I think about it.

ContentPimp 09-05-2010 12:18 AM

This long weekend thing is an excuse and a half. You'd think banks or visa would bend over backwards and hold an emergency meeting anytime when hundreds of millions are concerned not take a hiatus and sip margaritas then get back to work and deal with it like a regular joes individual account.

V_RocKs 09-05-2010 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17469349)
I can use ePassporte to get access to porn? How's that? I wonder how many porn addicts have epass or even know about it.. :1orglaugh

You obviously have no clue that ePassporte is more than just a debit card we all accept our affiliate payments through... ePassporte is also used as a tool by processors to get around chargebacks. Say a processor has .8% chargebacks occurring and wants to lower that number... Instead of stopping processing they will make a deal with ePassporte to load an ePassporte "card" with the customers credit card for the amount of the transaction. Now if they chargeback they are doing it to ePassporte, NOT the processor. ePassporte is now assuming the risk.

My example may be too simplified or even possibly a bit off. Nobody seems to talk about it here, but it has been mentioned various times before in posts... but never the topic.

romeo22 09-05-2010 12:34 AM

Sunday bump.I hope this mess will end soon and everything will go back to normal!

thaifan99 09-05-2010 12:50 AM

Everyone will get their money, but its very unlikely to be by atm.

Most likely cheques and wires - minus the fees of course.

avm79 09-05-2010 12:55 AM

IMHO
i think it's a bit erly to say about fail of MM. The movie isn't for all, u r right. But MM may get some proceeds in EU and from DVDs. It has chances to win some awards on specific fests which will stimulate its popularity (not Cannes but Berlin, Prague and others), why not? Not only shit happens.

madawgz 09-05-2010 01:45 AM

damn this thread is massive

Tempest 09-05-2010 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 17469689)
You obviously have no clue that ePassporte is more than just a debit card we all accept our affiliate payments through... ePassporte is also used as a tool by processors to get around chargebacks. Say a processor has .8% chargebacks occurring and wants to lower that number... Instead of stopping processing they will make a deal with ePassporte to load an ePassporte "card" with the customers credit card for the amount of the transaction. Now if they chargeback they are doing it to ePassporte, NOT the processor. ePassporte is now assuming the risk.

My example may be too simplified or even possibly a bit off. Nobody seems to talk about it here, but it has been mentioned various times before in posts... but never the topic.

Is that still going on? I thought once epoch and epass severed ties that it ended.

Regardless, my post still stands. The "addicts" and consumers have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, they're using their regular ol visa and mastercard to get access to porn, not epass.

lazycash 09-05-2010 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew-acs (Post 17469623)
They used our money to pay that movie, yeah? Just asking.

Lol, no, but I hope this causes you to have shut down your chat spamming biz and aren't able to pay all your minions.

majortom 09-05-2010 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garce (Post 17469547)
So you're accusing Christopher Mallick and Epassporte of enabling the exploitation of children via a random link you've found on the internet?

Truncation is irrelevant. Nothing was taken out of context. You support the theory that Epass functionality has been temporarily hindered due to activity involving the exploitation of minors. By quoting these random accuation under your own name, you agree that the opinions included within the quoted text mirror your own, and that you support the claims put forth by "some random, unnamed dude"..

Have you or have you not just confirmed your personal belief that Chrisopher Mallick and Epassporte promotes the propagation and desemmination of illegal activities involving the sexual exploitation children, and that the aforementioned entities evade prosecution of these alleged illegal activities due to arrangements they have made through unnamed charitable organizations?

Yes or no?

Do you believe Epass exploits children as per the statements in your original post?
Did you quote that bullshit because you can't access your account at this time?

NO to all of the above.
I'm not accusing anyone of anything.
Quoting an article doesn't mean that I agree and endorse or believe everything or anything in it.
If I had quoted ONLY the bit that bother you...That would be another story.

That article as some interesting points about epassporte..and its survival capacity.

I personally always have had a great experience with epass and hope that are back to normal asap.

USA 09-05-2010 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 17469457)
hey, who is that in the gif in your sig?

I am not sure...

silvija 09-05-2010 02:42 AM

Good morning, just woke up any news about epassporte????

gooddomains 09-05-2010 03:07 AM

they will do the right thing

maxidrom11 09-05-2010 03:15 AM

I have to pay for my hosting on 18th - I hope this problem will be sorted out

mcfester 09-05-2010 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvija (Post 17469784)
Good morning, just woke up any news about epassporte????

One sec, I just woke up also, I'll go read the last 10 pages and let you know. You go and have a coffee you fucking twat!

Darkcrni 09-05-2010 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcfester (Post 17469814)
one sec, i just woke up also, i'll go read the last 10 pages and let you know. You go and have a coffee you fucking twat!

lol!!!!lol!!!!

boneless 09-05-2010 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxidrom11 (Post 17469810)
I have to pay for my hosting on 18th - I hope this problem will be sorted out

same here, illmake sureto contact both webair and yellowfiber on monday during bizhours and get a solution going with them, as i dont have any other cc then my epass card.

boobcruiser 09-05-2010 04:36 AM

noe new fro mepass, forgett about epass, its like black holes, they was hacked ans lost all customers info, Visa blocked them and never unblock!
Open your eyes, your money in epass are lost

Jdoughs 09-05-2010 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boobcruiser (Post 17469882)
noe new fro mepass, forgett about epass, its like black holes, they was hacked ans lost all customers info, Visa blocked them and never unblock!
Open your eyes, your money in epass are lost

The pipe, down put it.

halfpint 09-05-2010 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17469638)
100% ....

K thanks I believe you Michael you have always been honest and very helpfull in the past and I suspect that you know the real reasons for this clitch

cheers

Darkcrni 09-05-2010 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneless (Post 17469879)
same here, illmake sureto contact both webair and yellowfiber on monday during bizhours and get a solution going with them, as i dont have any other cc then my epass card.


Same prob, i have only 1 epass acc. And using it for everything!

Jaeger 09-05-2010 04:56 AM

anyone know of the top of their head international wire prices from epass? Also do epass send cheques? ta

u-Bob 09-05-2010 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ray (Post 17462386)
I took the advice of epassporte to keep money in my VV

same here :(

goodspirit 09-05-2010 05:01 AM

Positive side of this drama is that have to learn something... first thing is trust! Second... hope... We all know that epass have 7 years biz history. Everyone here (ok not everyone but 99%) doing biz with them and beside all that crap like "I knew it" we have to say... what a minute... they really wanna disappear with all our money? I mean, if they wanted that they could do that long time ago (change DNS server to parking and that's it). But we didn't have that situation... And we have Michael and others who are working on this... SO.. there is a hope that we will get our epass back (not money... EPASS!).

Can we work without epass? Yes we can but that will be such pain in the ass and many of you/us will say "fuck it... I don't wanna do this any more". There is someone who will say "less webmasters... more money for me!". All I wanna say is that we have to come down and let people to do their job! I don't have millions on my account and I really think that I can use my brain to make some money in this or in some other biz (with or without epass). If you have some company that makes you money you will:

1. "Take all money" and run away and let 1 000 000 people hunting on you
2. Continue to make more and more money day by day like you did 7 years already

And DO YOU REALLY think that "MiddleMan" could be the reason why visa suspended epass?! I mean really?! That sounds like I said "National Bank Of America close their doors because of Steven Spielberg new movie". As I can see "MiddleMan" is over (or almost over) and we have this situation now?! I mean if that is really the reason don't you think that they will "use" our money long time ago? Why now when everything is over/almost over?

garce 09-05-2010 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by majortom (Post 17469767)
NO to all of the above.
I'm not accusing anyone of anything.
Quoting an article doesn't mean that I agree and endorse or believe everything or anything in it.

That's not the impression I got from your initial cut and paste post. You were quite impressed about your "find". If you do not agree with what you copy and pasted, why post it at all?

Quote:

Originally Posted by majortom (Post 17469767)
If I had quoted ONLY the bit that bother you...That would be another story.

That part didn't bother you? When I first read your post, I realized that the originator of that article was completely insane. You couldn't see that? Why would you copy and paste an article that unequivocally states that Mr. Mallick promotes the exploitation of children? No supposition - you presented it as a statement of fact. Your post clearly states that Mr. Mallick uses charities to deflect criticism away from his enabling of the exploitation of children.

No "alleged" involved. Your post clearly states this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by majortom (Post 17469767)
That article as some interesting points about epassporte..and its survival capacity.

I personally always have had a great experience with epass and hope that are back to normal asap.

I hope and believe that Epass will pull through this crisis. Keyser Soze (PCBBS FTW!) has helped me more than I can possibly repay him.

That is not the point. The point is this: You were pissed off, and you found the single most derogatory, fictitious, out of left field quote you could find concerning Mr. Mallick, and you chose to post it here.

Whether those were your words or not, you chose to sign your name to them. Just to stir up some shit.

Well, I'm the spoon. And the spoon says that you're an asshole.

MaDalton 09-05-2010 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17469910)
same here :(

to my understanding Epassporte always recommended to keep the money in the wallet for security purposes (as we can now see).

gooddomains 09-05-2010 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17469935)
to my understanding Epassporte always recommended to keep the money in the wallet for security purposes (as we can now see).

yes, they did this for a long time already

gaffg 09-05-2010 05:15 AM

coffee, good idea

gooddomains 09-05-2010 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamingaffiliatesguide (Post 17469940)
coffee, good idea

coffee is always good :thumbsup

Mildiiik 09-05-2010 05:20 AM

First the blocked money on Protraffic .... now ePassporte and therefore suspended payments from sponsors .... What expect more? In my country is cashing a check rather expensive and time-consuming fun ... I think,that total hungry month waiting for me ....

gaffg 09-05-2010 05:23 AM

coffee sounds like a good idea

garce 09-05-2010 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mildiiik (Post 17469953)
First the blocked money on Protraffic .... now ePassporte and therefore suspended payments from sponsors .... What expect more? In my country is cashing a check rather expensive and time-consuming fun ... I think,that total hungry month waiting for me ....

You have officially just hurt my brain.

quiet 09-05-2010 05:29 AM

almost hit 1500...

gooddomains 09-05-2010 05:32 AM

one to go ...

janosik 09-05-2010 05:34 AM

Here we go! 1500!


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