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NemesisEnforcer 09-04-2010 09:32 AM

Wish you all the best ...

gaffg 09-04-2010 09:37 AM

this has to be unnerving to many and guessing everyone will empty their accounts on first chance. That means epassporte won't exist

gooddomains 09-04-2010 09:38 AM

all will be goood

WWF-Rich 09-04-2010 09:38 AM

If you make a Hollywood movie about epassporte what do you think Visa are going to do?

gooddomains 09-04-2010 09:40 AM

no need to panic

gooddomains 09-04-2010 09:42 AM

epass is a very solid system

Denny 09-04-2010 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamingaffiliatesguide (Post 17467998)
this has to be unnerving to many and guessing everyone will empty their accounts on first chance. That means epassporte won't exist

:2 cents::2 cents:

istanboys 09-04-2010 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17462316)
If the money are on the Wallet you can withdraw via wire, a US bank account or to a credit/debit card in your name.
If the funds are on the Virtual Visa its not possible to access them at this time.

How can I withdraw from my wallet via wire?

I get this message when I click 'bank wire transfer' under 'withdraw money':

'Bank Wire Transfer

If you would like to receive a Bank Wire Transfer, please send a message via the Message Center to the the Account Holder Services Department.

Please note: bank wire transfers are not available to all Account Holders. You will receive a response within 2 business days if you qualify for a bank wire transfer withdrawal. '

but I don't want to receive a wire transfer, I want to wire money from my wallet to my (non-US) bank account via wire.

Rick Diculous 09-04-2010 10:00 AM

wow!! 28 pages in 2 days! Hope this gets resolved so I can get my money back

adult-help 09-04-2010 10:06 AM

but I don't want to receive a wire transfer, I want to wire money from my wallet to my (non-US) bank account via wire.
---
i think those are the same.

Cradle 09-04-2010 10:08 AM

sweet now my account is locked, no clue why and i'm sure it'll take customer support forever to answer with the amount of people sending in their requests, at this point i just hope i can get my wallet emptied.

mcfester 09-04-2010 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17463198)
When adding a new card you will have to verify it by sending in documents, ID, front and back of card (can block middle 8 digits) and recent statement or utility bill for the card.

You can add the card to the account if there are any issues please email me.

A few quick questions for Michael or anybody thats added a bank issued Visa Credit/Debit card before or after the problems.

Quote from Epass Questions Page:
Quote:

If this new card is a Visa Card, you will be asked to undergo the Verified by Visa and/or ePVerify process as with any other Visa Card. If this new card is a MasterCard, you will be requested to manually verify it with our ePassporte Account Verification department.
My bank issued Visa Debit card has already completed the "Verified by Visa" process when I added it to another site, so I have my extra secret codes and stuff required for the "Verified by Visa" process and have used it successfully on other sites also with my extra secret codes.
So do I still need to verify it? By "sending in documents, ID, front and back of card (can block middle 8 digits) and recent statement or utility bill for the card"
Or is this just required for MasterCard? "you will be requested to manually verify it with our ePassporte Account Verification department".

Granted I can block 8 digits (which you have on file anyway when adding the card), but if every payment processor or website accepting cards needed all the info you are asking to verify a card and keep this info on file, things would be pretty messed up I think.

Along with all this info should I send in the actual card and its ATM PIN just incase one of your staff can't be bothered using it online and wants to nip down the ATM for some cash? :1orglaugh

Now back on a serious note.
Can I add this UK bank issued "Verified by Visa" card registered at my UK address to my Thai Epassporte "Verification Requirements Met" account? And most laughable, the first name on the card is not the same as "Verification Requirements Met" account, as in it could be my wifes, my mothers or my sisters card.
Or can it only be added to a UK Epassporte account with same address as the card?

mcfester 09-04-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adult-help (Post 17468095)
but I don't want to receive a wire transfer, I want to wire money from my wallet to my (non-US) bank account via wire.
---
i think those are the same.

Yep, we have some right fuckin stars posting these last few days.

So you request the wire transfer, and your non US bank will receive the transfer, fucks sake :1orglaugh

hotcontent 09-04-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains (Post 17468007)
no need to panic

:thumbsup

McSpike 09-04-2010 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains (Post 17468013)
epass is a very solid system

Good to hear. Have any good domains with actual value to sell? Because I have epass money to spend.

Fatbat 09-04-2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldblyss (Post 17464700)
Your reading comprehension needs a little work. Where did I say "ME"? I have not messaged Michael, I have not contacted epass.

I was speaking in generalities. I wasn't talking about you specifically.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldblyss (Post 17464700)
I lost $1K in this and I'm just moving on, the same as I did with Chio.

I think it's you're reading comprehension that needs work, as it's clearly been stated over and over again that you haven't lost anything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldblyss (Post 17464700)
I honestly don't believe anyone is going to get their money back.

That's just rampant speculation and rumourmongering which doesn't do anyone here any good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldblyss (Post 17464700)
I don't believe in kicking people when they are down but apparently from your post you do. You appear to enjoy taking opportunities like this to point out that you are smarter and wiser and better off than others. That isn't my style. I guess my mom raised me differently.

Yeah, that's right, I'm just a big meanie. I'm not the one running around yelling OMG OMG the sky is falling and trying to incite panic while offering nothing. I'm the one pointing out that there are in fact other ways to get money out that isn't locked up in the VV and how to do it. I'm sorry my post wasn't all fluffy and sugar coated but this as every other issue with payment service providers should serve as a reminder to get your shit in order and smarten the fuck up. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. And, if you don't want to get a bank account, a real credit card, live off the grid and not pay your taxes then there are certain risks associated with doing so that you assume by living like that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldblyss (Post 17464700)
I spoke out because I felt that Micheal needed to remember that for some people this situation is having an enormous impact on their lives and because of this, he shouldn't be "too busy" for them. It is called empathy...maybe you should try it sometime.

Other than the time he's been sleeping and visiting his sick friend he hasn't stopped posting helpful advice here or offering further assistance so maybe you jumping down his throat was more of an annoyance than it was useful. Maybe you should practice what you preach, no?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PXN (Post 17465005)
Anyone have funds in wallet and try to transfer it to your personal debit card (not epass visa electron card) and withdrew the money?

I wonder if this work. I have funds in wallet only.

Yes, it does work. As I pointed out before, you can add a debit or credit card to your account and withdraw the funds that way. In my case I added a MBNA Mastercard to my account and can withdraw funds to it without any problem. It requires filling out paperwork, providing a scan of your ID and the card itself, but it does work. It wasn't the smoothest process, I had a couple issues at first but customer support sorted them out.

To those of you that tried to do this and didn't have it work, just contact customer service because it took me a couple tries to get it running smoothly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizz (Post 17465022)
Hello ****,

Unfortunately, we do not offer a withdraw option to a credit card.

Sorry for the inconvenience,


--
Larry Chavana

Wtf ?

I don't know that the fuck that is about because unless something has changed withdrawal to credit card works perfectly fine.

Under the "Withdraw Money" button there is another button that says "Personal Credit or Debit Card".

Lastly, for those of you saying "I'm never doing business with epassporte again!", I assume then that you'll never be doing business with Visa as well?

Jdoughs 09-04-2010 10:55 AM

FatBat, common sense was not due in this thread until page 32, please retract your post!

CaptainHowdy 09-04-2010 11:03 AM

I still love you, epass...

2012 09-04-2010 11:04 AM

#1369


nikki99 09-04-2010 11:08 AM

good morning, just woke up, any news about epassporte? is all solved now?

Dating Port 09-04-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 17467360)
LOL
just received my new epass card in the mail :Oh crap

heh, Me Too. :uhoh

Dating Port 09-04-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 17467553)

The member who posted this has no proof. It was a driveby post in a short thread.


Here is the whole thread.
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...6#post17467546

nikki99 09-04-2010 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 17466315)
hehe I hope SOBV lost all their money in this epass drama :)

me too....

boobcruiser 09-04-2010 11:28 AM

epass hacked
 
yes, no panic..epass only was hacked and lost all customers info...but no panic :)
why they dont tell truth ? if will do it then will real panic...

Klen 09-04-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boobcruiser (Post 17468314)
yes, no panic..epass only was hacked and lost all customers info...but no panic :)
why they dont tell truth ? if will do it then will real panic...

Even if that really happened,i don't see why that would be reason for blocking all cards since epass could easily automatically move all funds to wallet

lucPL 09-04-2010 11:35 AM

yeah hacked, why not UFO attack, don't be silly..

goodspirit 09-04-2010 11:38 AM

Is there anyone who made that wire transfer? Is there anyone who already got some money on his/her bank acc?

Dating Port 09-04-2010 11:41 AM

http://www.getdebit.com/debit-news/4...t-card-issues/

Talk about a sense of humor. Look at the name on the card.

Dejan 09-04-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buyandsell (Post 17467779)
you had no idea about the gambling stuff they processed of the US witchhunt of gambling payments etc?
it never crossed your mind epassporte was mostly providing a way for porn webmasters to get money out of an ATM?!
you never worried about dealing with a payment company operating out of the caribean?


in seven years seriously?

I'm not familiar with US laws, but If epassporte break any law and did it for 7 years...
then entire US government or anyone who's in charge for this should commit suicide.

let me put this as metaphor (I hope yo will understand it)

Let's say your friend just lose his job and he's forced to steal (breaking the law)... He steals for few days... nobody noticed... he steals for weeks... nobody noticed... he steals for months... nobody noticed... after 7 years of stealing he get arrested.

You go to visit him in jail and ask him: "are you really surprised that this happened?"

You know what he would say?

"YES! I'M FUCKING SURPRISED EVERYTHING WENT WELL FOR 7 YEARS"

I'm not bitching about lost money, I always withdraw my money when I get paid.
I just hate smartasses who think they knew everything...

If someone ban porn from internet and you start losing your money I'll be the first to send you mail with: "Are you really surprised this happened?" :winkwink:

Steiger 09-04-2010 11:45 AM

good post Dejan :-)

nikki99 09-04-2010 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dejan (Post 17468351)
I'm not familiar with US laws, but If epassporte break any law and did it for 7 years...
then entire US government or anyone who's in charge for this should commit suicide.

let me put this as metaphor (I hope yo will understand it)

Let's say your friend just lose his job and he's forced to steal (breaking the law)... He steals for few days... nobody noticed... he steals for weeks... nobody noticed... he steals for months... nobody noticed... after 7 years of stealing he get arrested.

You go to visit him in jail and ask him: "are you really surprised that this happened?"

You know what he would say?

"YES! I'M FUCKING SURPRISED EVERYTHING WENT WELL FOR 7 YEARS"

I'm not bitching about lost money, I always withdraw my money when I get paid.
I just hate smartasses who think they knew everything...

If someone ban porn from internet and you start losing your money I'll be the first to send you mail with: "Are you really surprised this happened?" :winkwink:

exactly, suddenly everyone saw this was coming, come on, seriously... gimme a break

Agent 488 09-04-2010 11:49 AM

this situation is deviace cretiness.

Ron Bennett 09-04-2010 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cum&Spam (Post 17467670)
After this, i won't trust in banks anymore. Will keep most of my money under my bed like in the old days. That's the only 100% sure way you have to know it's yours and use it WHEN you want.
Hahaha :1orglaugh

Ironically, if ePassporte was a bank with user accounts being real bank accounts, most would still have immediate access to their money.

With ePassporte, there's no transparency and few legal protections. No government bank insurance to cover users. If ePassporte chooses to cut and run, users are out of luck.

Ron

Marshal 09-04-2010 12:03 PM

come on, guys, let's take a break: epassporte will sort out their problems with visa, they'll apply for a merchant account, accommodate with the visa rules changes, then adapt and come out stronger! adapt or die...

Dejan 09-04-2010 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 17468377)
Ironically, if ePassporte was a bank with user accounts being real bank accounts, most would still have immediate access to their money.

With ePassporte, there's no transparency and few legal protections. No government bank insurance to cover users. If ePassporte chooses to cut and run, users are out of luck.

Ron

BS, VISA doesn't sign contract with anyone (like me and you) otherwise they would be thousands of sites like epass...
You need to have a real bank, which one in this case is St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank

Brent 3dSexCash 09-04-2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 17468377)
Ironically, if ePassporte was a bank with user accounts being real bank accounts, most would still have immediate access to their money.

With ePassporte, there's no transparency and few legal protections. No government bank insurance to cover users. If ePassporte chooses to cut and run, users are out of luck.

Ron

This is 100 percent correct. Your recourse with epassporte is the same as it with unregulated online casinos. You have none. They could pack up shop tomorrow and tell you fuck yourself and there is nothing you could do about it.

I am sorry but if anyone keeps money with epassporte after this they are a fool.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me

V_RocKs 09-04-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWF-Rich (Post 17468003)
If you make a Hollywood movie about epassporte what do you think Visa are going to do?

I believe the movie followed Paycom.net's rise, not ePassporte.com's... which didn't even become a company until long after adult processing companies could be counted on more than just your fingers.

femdomdestiny 09-04-2010 12:16 PM

chance
 
Isn't this great chance for payoneer? they are using master card from what I see

Dating Port 09-04-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Isn't this great chance for payoneer? they are using master card from what I see
Payoneer already fucked me once. I'm not using them.


ePassporte Official Statment
#2 IN VIEWS
#3 IN REPLIES
All in two days!

nikki99 09-04-2010 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dating Port (Post 17468426)
ePassporte Official Statment
#2 IN VIEWS
#3 IN REPLIES
All in two days!

amazing isnīt it

femdomdestiny 09-04-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dating Port (Post 17468426)
Payoneer already fucked me once. I'm not using them.

Really, how? what happened?

Dating Port 09-04-2010 12:26 PM

I was making a payment fore some services and they said the transaction went through. Then for some reason their security dept cancelled the transaction and they held up my money for 30 days.

I'll try looking through my old emails. I save everything.

Quote:

Dear xxxx xxxxxx,

Your credit card payment for $100.00 was approved by our processor.

Your Payment Reference Number is: 543102

We will load $100.00 (minus any applicable fees) on the requested Payoneer card within 24-48 hours and notify the cardholder by e-mail that their card has been loaded.
Have comments on how we can improve the loading process? Send us an email to [email protected] with your thoughts and suggestions with "Feedback" in the subject line.
For Cardholders:
Access your account page to edit your profile, check your transaction history and card balance.
NOTE: Do not use your prepaid card to register for free trial offers. Some companies begin charging a fee each month after the trial period. You will be responsible for these charges.

Questions? Concerns?
Contact us at [email protected] or at our live online help desk.


Thank you,

Customer Support
Payoneer, Inc.
Google "Payoneer Datingport" top of the list to read what happened next.

jonnydoe 09-04-2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucPL (Post 17468330)
yeah hacked, why not UFO attack, don't be silly..

Although I don't think this problem is related to being hacked, or cracked more appropriately, it is not far-fetched like a UFO sighting. No system or site is bulletproof. Google website hacked and you will find 5 million entries. Government organizations and financial institutions are "hacked" pretty much weekly if not daily.

Ron Bennett 09-04-2010 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dejan (Post 17468407)
BS, VISA doesn't sign contract with anyone (like me and you) otherwise they would be thousands of sites like epass...
You need to have a real bank, which one in this case is St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank

Yes, there are real banks involved, but they have NO direct relationship with ePassporte users. ePassporte user accounts are NOT individual bank accounts.

An analogy to ePassporte ... a hypothetical Joe Schmoe has a bank account somewhere and holds money in there for a bunch of his friends - sure, Joe Schmoe is supposed to give back the money to his friends upon request, but what if he doesn't? ... what effective recourse do his friends have? Ponder that, because that's basically the situation with ePassporte.

Ron

baddog 09-04-2010 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaeger (Post 17466971)
just got an email saying my hosting payment has failed (its set up to my epassporte visa)

Wonder how many people's hosting payments will fail? A LOT

Everyone that pays with epass will have the same problem.

Brent 3dSexCash 09-04-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 17468476)
Yes, there are real banks involved, but they have NO direct relationship with ePassporte users. ePassporte user accounts are NOT individual bank accounts.

An analogy is ePassporte ... a hypothetical Joe Schmoe has a bank account somewhere and holds money in there for a bunch of his friends - sure, Joe Schmoe is supposed to give back the money to his friends upon request, but what if he doesn't? ... what effective recourse do his friends have? Ponder that, because that's basically the situation with ePassporte.

Ron


Also, people seem to forget that epassporte is NOT a US corporation much like online casinos are not. If they take your money and run, who are you are going to complain to? The numbers you see in epassporte account mean nothing until it is in your bank account.

flashfire 09-04-2010 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodspirit (Post 17468339)
Is there anyone who made that wire transfer? Is there anyone who already got some money on his/her bank acc?

If have requested one...but I have done them lots and even at the best of times it takes a few business days to see the money in the account. I will post right away though. For the record I will use epass again if they figure things out.

SleepWalker 09-04-2010 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodspirit (Post 17468339)
Is there anyone who made that wire transfer? Is there anyone who already got some money on his/her bank acc?

I did send a request like many others for a wire after it all strated but as far as I know no one got the message saying it was being processed yet ( this msg comes along with the $50 wire fee being taken from your acc. )

They will probably buy as much time as possible before they process those requests. That is if they still have access to any OUR money...

Same for a transfer to a credit card or US bank account. No one completed any of these since the official annoncement. Epass says it still works but I think next week we will start getting excuses when we find out it doesn't... Hope I'm wrong...

AlexUA 09-04-2010 01:03 PM

http://i074.radikal.ru/1009/8e/0eb25ea696e8.jpg

LongBG 09-04-2010 01:05 PM

Well, time will only tell what the fuck is going to happen. Until then I wish you all the best and advise all the people using ePass as their everyday monetary solution to check in the sofa for loose change and head on out to the supermarket and stock up on as much 2 minute noodles you can afford....


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