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Old 02-19-2009, 10:01 AM   #1
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Who is outsidebills.com numerous charges on my CC...

I went to outsidebills.com and it is impossible to cancel or get any details on what I am being charged for.

They are billing $12.95 USD each time.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:02 AM   #2
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:03 AM   #3
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No idea who they are, but the fact their servers are located in the Ukraine would not be a good sign.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:17 AM   #7
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Same ip also has

# Atmcashstop.com
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I already did a whois.

What site and program is it for?
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:24 AM   #10
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:24 AM   #11
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:25 AM   #12
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:26 AM   #13
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:33 AM   #14
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As if there was a race...
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:36 AM   #15
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is there any actual site that your being billed for or are they just billing u for the fun of it?
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:37 AM   #16
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found this warning on freeones board

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Warning : ATMACCESS24.COM / SBVPAYMENTS.COM / OUTSIDEBILLS.com

2 pre-checked cross sales below the join/submit button with info about what you get at the bottom of the page!

Investigation turned out to be extra carefull when you join any of these sites



Websites from this company:
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might have signed up to one of their sites or got nailed with a prechecked cross sale most likely the latter
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How did soloconverts get my data?
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:41 AM   #18
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As if there was a race...
Race to the bottom
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:41 AM   #19
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3...2...1.. until random rep comes in to say he knows another rep who is a good guy and is working on this problem.

6...5...4.. until that rep comes in and says it was a mistake and the problem is fixed

9...8...7.. until it's found out that both those people used to work together and were a part of the same company

12...11...10.. the denial begins and they never knew each other. then backpedal and admit to once, some time in a past life meeting once, backpeddal more and say they worked with a company who got caught for fraud and they don't use them anymore

15...14...13.. another thread is started about the same thing. same company. same billers. same scam. and the process starts all over.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:51 AM   #21
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Dave,

Please. Find out all the information you can. Bundle it up into a very nice package. And send it to the FBI.

I'm not kidding. This shit will never get solved on the boards. These people need to be investigated through a federal agency with international reach.

http://www.fbi.gov/contactus.htm - they're available for you 24/7
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:51 AM   #22
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How did soloconverts get my data?
as if you have to ask

isn't swapping and banging cards pretty common these days?
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:52 AM   #23
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Looks great The new economy is running just fine.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:53 AM   #24
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This has nothing to do with Archivecash etc. We do not own this domain or have anything to do with it at all. For the record.
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oh lol angelsofporn you wrote that like all other scam websites belongs to program you represent, oh ... and i see this still more, does it means that scamming and charging peoples credit cards is popular in adult biz those days? oh cool then why sales are low, nobody will put his credit card anywhere cause of fuckers who are scamming others for every penny ... everyone who have cross sales etc need to be kicked hard at next webmasters meeting ... spank them and fuck them, nothing more those people deserve ...
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oh lol angelsofporn you wrote that like all other scam websites belongs to program you represent, oh ... and i see this still more, does it means that scamming and charging peoples credit cards is popular in adult biz those days? oh cool then why sales are low, nobody will put his credit card anywhere cause of fuckers who are scamming others for every penny ... everyone who have cross sales etc need to be kicked hard at next webmasters meeting ... spank them and fuck them, nothing more those people deserve ...
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as far as i remember that's JimB of Incredible $ who got blamed by Glenn in the infamous video
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can you please summarize all your threads pr dave?

you signed up to 1 paysite and since then getting your ass handed to you after every cc statement? or am i getting it wrong?
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Damn...how the hell do you keep doing this over and over and over? You must run wild with that credit card. Seems like every few weeks this is happening to you. What the hell man? You need to just do a chargeback on every one of those charges. God knows surfers never seem to have any problems doing chargebacks on legit sites (even when I look up their logs and see that they've been in the members area a thousand times lol )

Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.

Simple steps, save you time and board drama
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They bought your CC info, or paid someone else to bang your CC. Either way, it's stolen and fraudulent.
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if by bad luck you mean using your credit card to pay for a membership to a paysite..
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Would help to know what site you joined initially considering it would be there where this began. Was it an I$ site?
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These charges just started in January.
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Damn...how the hell do you keep doing this over and over and over? You must run wild with that credit card. Seems like every few weeks this is happening to you. What the hell man? You need to just do a chargeback on every one of those charges. God knows surfers never seem to have any problems doing chargebacks on legit sites (even when I look up their logs and see that they've been in the members area a thousand times lol )

Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.

Simple steps, save you time and board drama
I am pretty sure he did this a while ago specifically to CREATE board drama
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your not suppose to use your c/c online.. havn't you learned :P
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Quick summary, out the blue I started getting charges in January from yourtech101.com - they charged my card again just last week and now getting multiple charges from outsidebills.com.

Both companies are charging $12.95 per transaction.

Last time this CC was used to join any paysite was in August 2008. No charges from August till the ones above in January.

That about sums it up. I have been accused of making all of this up and that I have a hidden agenda against the companies. Neither is true. I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.
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Quick summary, out the blue I started getting charges in January from yourtech101.com - they charged my card again just last week and now getting multiple charges from outsidebills.com.

Both companies are charging $12.95 per transaction.

Last time this CC was used to join any paysite was in August 2008. No charges from August till the ones above in January.

That about sums it up. I have been accused of making all of this up and that I have a hidden agenda against the companies. Neither is true. I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.
Contact the FBI!
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if you want to see something funny, you should google some of the lines of text on the site, and see how many sites use the same text... like http://www.livemembersupport.com (wow - http://www.nichepay.com - what a surprice) and many more

If you then track emails and phonecalls, you will start to see a pattern

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Quick summary, out the blue I started getting charges in January from yourtech101.com - they charged my card again just last week and now getting multiple charges from outsidebills.com.

Both companies are charging $12.95 per transaction.

Last time this CC was used to join any paysite was in August 2008. No charges from August till the ones above in January.

That about sums it up. I have been accused of making all of this up and that I have a hidden agenda against the companies. Neither is true. I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.
who did you signup to?
also if u dont mind me asking why would u signup to a paysite in the first place? was this a test? or?
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Hi Dave,

It's very simple to cancel a membership with us, it links right to net billing's cancel page.

Further more we do nothing fraudulent, test any of our sites you will never have any issue. We purchase x sells from various program's out there, and have discontinued a lot of our deal's since late last year. I'm assuming your charges are re bills. If you have any problem's canceling, please email me and I'll personally make sure you are canceled and refunded.

I'm not going to address the wild conspiracy theories that seem to never end on this board. All I will say is we have nothing to do with ArchiveCash, IncredibleDollars or any adult company for that matter.

Feel free to email me at: [email protected]
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Damn...how the hell do you keep doing this over and over and over? You must run wild with that credit card. Seems like every few weeks this is happening to you. What the hell man? You need to just do a chargeback on every one of those charges. God knows surfers never seem to have any problems doing chargebacks on legit sites (even when I look up their logs and see that they've been in the members area a thousand times lol )

Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.

Simple steps, save you time and board drama
Are you really that dumb? Everyone on GFY knows you only have to sign up to the wrong site and your CC will be hammered multiple times. This seems to be another case of this.

I see you still try to make excuses for these type of companies tho Robbie.
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Hi Dave,

It's very simple to cancel a membership with us, it links right to net billing's cancel page.

Further more we do nothing fraudulent, test any of our sites you will never have any issue. We purchase x sells from various program's out there, and have discontinued a lot of our deal's since late last year. I'm assuming your charges are re bills. If you have any problem's canceling, please email me and I'll personally make sure you are canceled and refunded.

I'm not going to address the wild conspiracy theories that seem to never end on this board. All I will say is we have nothing to do with ArchiveCash, IncredibleDollars or any adult company for that matter.
Feel free to email me at: [email protected]

no, you just bang their cards, we understand that by now
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I am pretty sure he did this a while ago specifically to CREATE board drama
Why would he do that? Are you accusing him of some sort of reverse psychology spam? Like a "Other sites are crooked but not us" type spam? I don't think he'd do that.

But I am confused as to why he hasn't gotten a new card. I lost my American Express Platinum card at AVN. I called them. They immediately cancelled that card number, and then overnighted me a new card with a new number. I also don't understand why he doesn't just hit the chargeback on them. That's the best way to fuck someone that tried to take your money on your card without your authorization.

Go get 'em PR Dave! Charge back on those motherfuckers and get you a new card bro. Problem solved.
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Hi Dave,

It's very simple to cancel a membership with us, it links right to net billing's cancel page.

Further more we do nothing fraudulent, test any of our sites you will never have any issue. We purchase x sells from various program's out there, and have discontinued a lot of our deal's since late last year. I'm assuming your charges are re bills. If you have any problem's canceling, please email me and I'll personally make sure you are canceled and refunded.

I'm not going to address the wild conspiracy theories that seem to never end on this board. All I will say is we have nothing to do with ArchiveCash, IncredibleDollars or any adult company for that matter.

Feel free to email me at: [email protected]
Hey Kevin, I know you must be extremely busy but I am still waiting for that affiliate info you were going to send me. Remember, the one you canned from your program for fraudulent CC charges!!

In case you forgot (what else could it be) please send it to roald @t freeones dot com

Thnx
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:55 PM   #50
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Are you really that dumb? Everyone on GFY knows you only have to sign up to the wrong site and your CC will be hammered multiple times. This seems to be another case of this.

I see you still try to make excuses for these type of companies tho Robbie.
Are you really that disrespectful? All I said was get a new card and chargeback those fraudulent charges. What's so hard about that? And I'll remember that "dumb" comment. Totally uncalled for.
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