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Machete_ · 02-19-2009, 12:57 PM

50 .... look at MEEEEe

wjxxx · 02-19-2009, 12:57 PM

I think it`s time for FBI. These carding crooks need to be jailed and assfucked by nignogs

shunga · 02-19-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinConverts

I'm not going to address the wild conspiracy theories that seem to never end on this board. All I will say is we have nothing to do with ArchiveCash, IncredibleDollars or any adult company for that matter.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=34

fatfoo · 02-19-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

fusionx · 02-19-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shunga

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=34

I'd love to see Kevin respond and explain this.

shunga · 02-19-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fusionx

I'd love to see Kevin respond and explain this.

It's the "rouge owner" defence. These companies have quite a high management turnover.

AnniKN · 02-19-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Quick summary, out the blue I started getting charges in January from yourtech101.com - they charged my card again just last week and now getting multiple charges from outsidebills.com.

Both companies are charging $12.95 per transaction.

Last time this CC was used to join any paysite was in August 2008. No charges from August till the ones above in January.

That about sums it up. I have been accused of making all of this up and that I have a hidden agenda against the companies. Neither is true. I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.

What I am going to say will sound absolutely horrible but... did you by any chance sign up to one of your own sites and took the xsales?

john_63 · 02-19-2009, 01:30 PM

bad roboform. very bad

john_63 · 02-19-2009, 01:35 PM

NicelyWritten · 02-19-2009, 01:36 PM

This is complete bullshit. I hope you get reimbursed like you were promised. Do you think anyone affected by something like this will ever signup on a paysite again?

PR_Dave · 02-19-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AnniKN

did you by any chance sign up to one of your own sites and took the xsales?

There is only 1 x-sell and it goes to our own product.

fusionx · 02-19-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shunga

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=34

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Originally Posted by shunga

It's the "rouge owner" defence. These companies have quite a high management turnover.

I've got a feeling there will be more turnover coming soon.

V_RocKs · 02-19-2009, 02:10 PM

Dave, come on man! You need to quit getting so drunk that you don't remember pulling out your card in the middle of the night.

AnniKN · 02-19-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

There is only 1 x-sell and it goes to our own product.

Ok, just checking - because I got screwed over once after signing up to one of your sites (AdultElite actually, PunkRockGirlfriend). I had about 5 xsales all of which I cancelled, yet I got to a fake cancellation page for Brazzers with no confirmation, and another cancellation page WITH confirmation, that was still open as "open gateway for delayed settlement", 5 months later.

Also, there was a charge for 39.95 to eelimite.com around 4 months after said sign up - on the day before said domain was even registered (a domain harvester registered the domain after a lot of people were googling for that term because they had been scammed too). And the only other places where I had used that card had been domain registrars, and content stores that have been years in the business.

dial · 02-19-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Why would he do that? Are you accusing him of some sort of reverse psychology spam? Like a "Other sites are crooked but not us" type spam? I don't think he'd do that.

But I am confused as to why he hasn't gotten a new card. I lost my American Express Platinum card at AVN. I called them. They immediately cancelled that card number, and then overnighted me a new card with a new number. I also don't understand why he doesn't just hit the chargeback on them. That's the best way to fuck someone that tried to take your money on your card without your authorization.

Go get 'em PR Dave! Charge back on those motherfuckers and get you a new card bro. Problem solved.

my point was he purposely signed up for one paysite to see how many times his card got charged, and he has been reporting it on the boards for quite some time now

so, yes, he purposely signed up to create board drama against the companies that are trying to scam him

DarkJedi · 02-19-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Quick summary, out the blue I started getting charges in January from yourtech101.com - they charged my card again just last week and now getting multiple charges from outsidebills.com.

Both companies are charging $12.95 per transaction.

Last time this CC was used to join any paysite was in August 2008. No charges from August till the ones above in January.

That about sums it up. I have been accused of making all of this up and that I have a hidden agenda against the companies. Neither is true. I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.

That's ArchiveCash

pamon · 02-19-2009, 02:27 PM

exiting archivecash... stage right snagglepuss

angelsofporn · 02-19-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dial

my point was he purposely signed up for one paysite to see how many times his card got charged, and he has been reporting it on the boards for quite some time now

so, yes, he purposely signed up to create board drama against the companies that are trying to scam him

In addition to this, Dave knows the real story here, but is milking it for everything it's worth because he believes any bad publicity for other programs is good publicity for his own. Maybe one day Dave can come clean on this whole thing.

PR_Dave · 02-19-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by angelsofporn

In addition to this, Dave knows the real story here.

And that is?

PR_Dave · 02-19-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AnniKN

Ok, just checking - because I got screwed over once after signing up to one of your sites (AdultElite actually, PunkRockGirlfriend).

There was a small period of time we sent our x-sells to Brazzers. I can't speak for how they conduct their business.

dial · 02-19-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by angelsofporn

In addition to this, Dave knows the real story here, but is milking it for everything it's worth because he believes any bad publicity for other programs is good publicity for his own. Maybe one day Dave can come clean on this whole thing.

obviously there is no "real story" or you would have explained that further

angelsofporn · 02-19-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

And that is?

That's your job not mine. No such thing as bad publicity... is there Dave?

AnniKN · 02-19-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

There was a small period of time we sent our x-sells to Brazzers. I can't speak for how they conduct their business.

I'm not saying it was Brazzers who screwed me over nor that you are in on it in any way... although you must admit that xselling to companies that "you don't know how they conduct their business" is irresponsible...

What I am saying is that there was a big number of crosssales on that sign up, including cancel form xsales and xsales at entry to the member's area, and that at least one of them must have been responsible for the bogus charge and the open settlement thing down the line. I cancelled that card so I am unable to verify whether there were more charges. My whole point was just that if you accepted a xsale at that sign up you made in August, you could be still getting banged by xsales of xsales of that program.

PR_Dave · 02-19-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AnniKN

Ialthough you must admit that xselling to companies that "you don't know how they conduct their business" is irresponsible...

That is why we are 100% internal. Trust in b2b is not there anymore.

Mutt · 02-19-2009, 03:11 PM

LOL @ the people who think Dave is joining porn sites to get his rocks off, he owns a hundred or so sites with great content he can rub one out to if he wants to. he no doubt like other webmasters has done an experiment with a card of his own to see just how nasty and criminal some programs have become.

this shit isn't just shady - it's fucking criminal - somebody's going to jail eventually.

ol' Diamond Jim is doing how many months/years in a federal prison? he played the game and lost - one or two of these current clowns will do serious jail time down the road as well but most will walk away free and easy with millions in the bank.

mpahlca · 02-19-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by potter

Dave,

Please. Find out all the information you can. Bundle it up into a very nice package. And send it to the FBI.

I'm not kidding. This shit will never get solved on the boards. These people need to be investigated through a federal agency with international reach.

http://www.fbi.gov/contactus.htm - they're available for you 24/7

No offense intended but how does a Canadian benefit from the FBI?

Dirty F · 02-19-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Damn...how the hell do you keep doing this over and over and over?

You must run wild with that credit card. Seems like every few weeks this is happening to you. What the hell man? You need to just do a chargeback on every one of those charges. God knows surfers never seem to have any problems doing chargebacks on legit sites (even when I look up their logs and see that they've been in the members area a thousand times lol )

Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.

Simple steps, save you time and board drama

Wow, first time in a thread like this where you aren't defending the scammers. Amazing.

Dirty F · 02-19-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Damn...how the hell do you keep doing this over and over and over?

You must run wild with that credit card. Seems like every few weeks this is happening to you. What the hell man? You need to just do a chargeback on every one of those charges. God knows surfers never seem to have any problems doing chargebacks on legit sites (even when I look up their logs and see that they've been in the members area a thousand times lol )

Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.

Simple steps, save you time and board drama

Actually i read that wrong. You ARE defending the scammers...as usual.

So no suprise here.

Dirty F · 02-19-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk

if you want to see something funny, you should google some of the lines of text on the site, and see how many sites use the same text... like http://www.livemembersupport.com (wow - http://www.nichepay.com - what a surprice) and many more

If you then track emails and phonecalls, you will start to see a pattern

Nichepay is Archivecash right?

Dirty F · 02-19-2009, 03:39 PM

I really fucking wonder why Robbie is attracted to these threads like flies to shit so he can defend the scammers and scum. He almost does it blindly. Like it doesn't even matter who the scammers are and what they did, he will be in that thread asap to defend them. It's really REALLY weird behaviour and i really wonder why he does that. I can only think of one explanation and that is that he might be involved in this shit himself. What possible other reason could there be for his behaviour?

Due · 02-19-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.

I would consider it a potential problem working in an industry that I don't trust well enough to buy something from

potter · 02-19-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

No offense intended but how does a Canadian benefit from the FBI?

Benefit? Well I don't think there is a reward or anything.... So maybe the satisfaction of knowing they'll get caught?

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-19-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Dave, come on man! You need to quit getting so drunk that you don't remember pulling out your card in the middle of the night.

Sorry but,

pocketkangaroo · 02-19-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Nichepay is Archivecash right?

Nothing is connected man, it's all Roboforms fault.

AdultEUhost · 02-19-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross

Are you really that dumb? Everyone on GFY knows you only have to sign up to the wrong site and your CC will be hammered multiple times. This seems to be another case of this.

I see you still try to make excuses for these type of companies tho Robbie.

yo ross, when are you coming over again? that waitress is still waiting for your call, that stripper also btw

Dirty F · 02-19-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by angelsofporn

This has nothing to do with Archivecash etc. We do not own this domain or have anything to do with it at all. For the record.

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Originally Posted by shunga

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=34

Everytime time there's a thread about these punks at least 1 of them comes to the boards to....lie

Because that makes things better

The problem is the clusterfuck is so big they don't know anymore what to lie about and what not.

Ross · 02-19-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultEUhost

yo ross, when are you coming over again? that waitress is still waiting for your call, that stripper also btw

LOL

I'll try get back down to NYC soon. Hopefully April time

Huggles · 02-19-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.

The big money is in cross sales. Haven't you learned anything? ;)

VIPimp · 02-19-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by angelsofporn

In addition to this, Dave knows the real story here, but is milking it for everything it's worth because he believes any bad publicity for other programs is good publicity for his own. Maybe one day Dave can come clean on this whole thing.

You might want to check your join page, might be a error... seems both your prechecked xsells are for the same site but just different domain names... on the same join form.

DWB · 02-19-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

The big money is in cross sales. Haven't you learned anything? ;)

Guess you haven't been around long. Dave used to x-sale with others just the same. I guess he too got burned enough to take them all internal. Wise move.

Sausage · 02-19-2009, 08:39 PM

Oh its the guys behind trannypay ? That explains everything. Biggest crooks on the net.

Dirty F · 02-19-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPimp

You might want to check your join page, might be a error... seems both your prechecked xsells are for the same site but just different domain names... on the same join form.

Everything that looks different with their sites is usually to fuck over the surfer more easily so i guess this is no error.

Dirty F · 02-19-2009, 09:09 PM

All we need now to get this thread complete is DJ the kid in here fucking things up even worse. Can't wait for that moron to cause another trainwreck.

Dirty F · 02-19-2009, 09:25 PM

edit.....

Dirty F · 02-19-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Hey Kevin, I know you must be extremely busy but I am still waiting for that affiliate info you were going to send me. Remember, the one you canned from your program for fraudulent CC charges!!

In case you forgot (what else could it be) please send it to roald @t freeones dot com

Thnx

I just heard that this Kevin guy doesn't even exist so that would certainly explain things

I can't confirm this but it certainly wouldn't surprise me.

Huggles · 02-19-2009, 09:43 PM

The affiliates, performers, and customers... everyone gets fucked in adult.

PR_Dave · 03-31-2009, 08:40 PM

4 charges on my CC from outsidebills.com

Dirty F · 04-01-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

4 charges on my CC from outsidebills.com

This shit is crazy. It just goes on and on.

Give it a hour or so and one of their fake nicks or maybe a real rep will be here to tell you they have nothing to do with it...it's just their site but not really their site because someone else regged it and he doesn't work there anymore they just keep using that name because someone else has a site that is related to it but not really because roboform accidentally bought it and the sales rep who doesn't really exist is fired but also hired again at the sister company that is not their sister company and nobody knows eachother there and nobody works together and no sites are connected whatsoever...or something like that.

Dirty F · 04-01-2009, 09:11 AM

I just realized i'm not allowed to talk about this anymore so i goodbye maybe...

BradM · 04-01-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

4 charges on my CC from outsidebills.com

You're CBing every single one, correct?

02-19-2009, 12:57 PM	#51
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	50 .... look at MEEEEe Last edited by Machete_; 02-19-2009 at 12:58 PM..

02-19-2009, 01:36 PM	#60
NicelyWritten Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North America Posts: 161	This is complete bullshit. I hope you get reimbursed like you were promised. Do you think anyone affected by something like this will ever signup on a paysite again? __________________ Nicely Written Sales <@> NicelyWritten.com Let us work on your Blogs, Short Stories, Articles, Descriptions and Summaries. We offer discounts in exchange for long term partnerships.

02-19-2009, 02:27 PM	#67
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02-19-2009, 03:11 PM	#75
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	LOL @ the people who think Dave is joining porn sites to get his rocks off, he owns a hundred or so sites with great content he can rub one out to if he wants to. he no doubt like other webmasters has done an experiment with a card of his own to see just how nasty and criminal some programs have become. this shit isn't just shady - it's fucking criminal - somebody's going to jail eventually. ol' Diamond Jim is doing how many months/years in a federal prison? he played the game and lost - one or two of these current clowns will do serious jail time down the road as well but most will walk away free and easy with millions in the bank. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

02-19-2009, 09:43 PM	#96
Huggles GFY'S #1 retard Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Kelowna Posts: 11,089	The affiliates, performers, and customers... everyone gets fucked in adult. __________________ https://3-veo.com/ The best AI video maker portal.

02-19-2009, 12:57 PM	#52
wjxxx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,448	I think it`s time for FBI. These carding crooks need to be jailed and assfucked by nignogs

02-19-2009, 01:30 PM	#58
john_63 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 517	bad roboform. very bad

02-19-2009, 01:35 PM	#59
john_63 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 517

02-19-2009, 02:10 PM	#63
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Dave, come on man! You need to quit getting so drunk that you don't remember pulling out your card in the middle of the night.

02-19-2009, 03:39 PM	#80
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I really fucking wonder why Robbie is attracted to these threads like flies to shit so he can defend the scammers and scum. He almost does it blindly. Like it doesn't even matter who the scammers are and what they did, he will be in that thread asap to defend them. It's really REALLY weird behaviour and i really wonder why he does that. I can only think of one explanation and that is that he might be involved in this shit himself. What possible other reason could there be for his behaviour?

02-19-2009, 08:39 PM	#91
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	Oh its the guys behind trannypay ? That explains everything. Biggest crooks on the net.

02-19-2009, 09:09 PM	#93
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	All we need now to get this thread complete is DJ the kid in here fucking things up even worse. Can't wait for that moron to cause another trainwreck.

02-19-2009, 09:25 PM	#94
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	edit.....

03-31-2009, 08:40 PM	#97
PR_Dave Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 2,792	4 charges on my CC from outsidebills.com __________________ www.PIMPROLL.com

04-01-2009, 09:11 AM	#99
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I just realized i'm not allowed to talk about this anymore so i goodbye maybe...