Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17432064)

Watch me brother...I won't get fined one time. And I won't get locked up either. And neither will the thousands of other independent websites shooting content all over the country everyday. L.A. producers don't realize how big this business really is. You're just a handful of guys who are local to AVN and XBiz so that area gets all the press. Reality is more people actually SEE the content that is being shot outside of porn valley. Some of these sites shot outside of Porn Valley get HUGE traffic and sales.

And if OSHA wants to come to my house and tell me what I can and can't do when shooting video and pics of my own wife...good fucking luck to them.

It ain't gonna work.

And it won't work on Rachel Aziani, and it won't work on Kelly Madison, and it won't work on Celeste Fox, and it won't work on Brittany Love, and it won't work on Brandi Love and it won't work...I can keep going and going.

We will continue to shoot and produce as we please. The people getting hurt by this kind of insanity are the same ones getting destroyed by piracy...porn studios shooting the same pack of stripper/escort/porn girls out of porn valley for generic porn sites.

Don't get me wrong...I love those girls and their work. But they are all over the place for free which has already decreased production out there. And now the govt.. wants to jump on you with this craziness? Just saying, you guys are in for a lot of headaches. I'm glad I'm not in your shoes.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17429150)

i did shoot in the beginning, but i suck ;)

my partner does that, i do the sales etc.

and yeah, we have the same problem, one testing center closed and the other now collects for a couple of days before the do the lab stuff. so no chance anymore to get a test from one day to the other

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17429629)

think selling prints is dead.... more like $3000-$5000K per wedding on the low end and up to $50K in the high end. this would include video as well as post prodduction... give the client a dvd or bd, walk away

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 17432285)

I have seen you post here for years.
I know you are into old porches
BUT I never knew you or your company you rep shot content.

I would suggest you re think your marketing approach.

Just my opnion ofcourse

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17432302)

lol - then i guess you have switched sigs off and overlooked dozens of threads where i announced content sales and posted pics :winkwink:

but honestly: i don't like to spam and i indeed prefer a more non-aggressive sales technique. it worked at least good enough to be here for 7 years now and still doing well. :)

but i will think about how i can improve awareness - green watermarks are a no-no though :winkwink:

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 17432308)

I have sigs on and I knew you sold content.
I just assumed it was dvd crap for some reason.
I have never noticed any samples or heard anyone talk about goign to you for custom exclusive stuff

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17432273)

If you're shooting content outside of LA or the state of New Hampshire (or is it Vermont?) you're guilty of pandering. In Arizona -- where I'm from -- it's a class 6 felony.

Will the cops in your area enforce the pandering law?

Depends.

If they choose to enforce it on you, are you in trouble?

Depends.

Are you immune to these laws?

Nope.

Anytime you pay a model, and you told her what time to be on your set, and what to do while she was there, she's your employee.

Will OSHA enforce its employer/employee laws in your area?

Depends.

If they choose to, are you in trouble?

Depends.

Are you immune to these laws?

Nope.

If she earns more than $600 bucks in a calendar year, you're to report her income to the IRS. If you don't, they'll eventually find you.

And her.

None of this has anything to do with LA porn people, or independent web sites, or how big this business is, or the content being shot in (or out) or Porn Valley...or anything more that what's already established law, and if the local/federal authorities are gonna choose to enforce what's on the books if they come after you.

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 17432310)

People are really missing the point and purpose of the subcommittee.

Within the next few days. I am going to write a detailed statement of what that current nationwide OSHA laws are for blood born pathogens, what the subcommittee is trying to accomplish, and what my personal beliefs are in this matter.

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 17432291)

$50K to shoot a wedding and make a dvd?

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 17432310)

People are really missing the point and purpose of the subcommittee.

Within the next few days. I am going to write a detailed statement of what that current nationwide OSHA laws are for blood born pathogens, what the subcommittee is trying to accomplish, and what my personal beliefs are in this matter.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17432372)

Dan, it was all in the papers some years ago about "blood born pathogens" when they attempted to pull the same stupid stuff at wrestling, boxing, MMA, and other events where bleeding and sweat are in play. It failed then too.

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17432273)

If you're shooting content outside of LA or the state of New Hampshire (or is it Vermont?) you're guilty of pandering. In Arizona -- where I'm from -- it's a class 6 felony.

Will the cops in your area enforce the pandering law?

Depends.

If they choose to enforce it on you, are you in trouble?

Depends.

Are you immune to these laws?

Nope.

Anytime you pay a model, and you told her what time to be on your set, and what to do while she was there, she's your employee.

Will OSHA enforce its employer/employee laws in your area?

Depends.

If they choose to, are you in trouble?

Depends.

Are you immune to these laws?

Nope.

If she earns more than $600 bucks in a calendar year, you're to report her income to the IRS. If you don't, they'll eventually find you.

And her.

None of this has anything to do with LA porn people, or independent web sites, or how big this business is, or the content being shot in (or out) or Porn Valley...or anything more that what's already established law, and if the local/federal authorities are gonna choose to enforce what's on the books if they come after you.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17431919)

Yes it's a rich crowd. The kind of people who go to a wedding planner, church, dress which can cost $5,000...

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 17433306)

5 grand is almost on the low end when you're talking designer wedding dress prices. I have a cousin who spent 12 grand on her dress and that was in the mid 90's.

craaaazy. I paid under $50 on what I wore when I got married. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17429293)

Been seeing shooters quitting for the last 3 years. Most are using their shooting skills to shoot something more profitable and less trouble.

Just so glad I never went the exclusive route. We can survive on what we shot for years to come.

Originally Posted by Raf1 (Post 17433509)

yeah, it was a good idea to shoot your own stuff.