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Old 09-05-2010, 07:50 PM   #1
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Leaders of the Industry why do you care what the Mob, Followers, Wannabe's,Haters etc have to say!!!

why even waste your time replying unless its to amuse yourself.

If you have never been the first to do something in the adult industry your are one of these. Mob, Follower, Wannabe, Hater, Troll, Anon etc

feel free to add to the list.
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Old 09-05-2010, 07:55 PM   #2
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nope.. just speaking the truth

I forgot one (Sheep)
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why even waste your time replying unless its to amuse yourself.

If you have never been the first to do something in the adult industry your are one of these. Mob, Follower, Wannabe, Hater, Troll, Anon etc

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Love the site design on the site in your sig.
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Frankly, I doubt most care.

Historically we have seen many names slammed and bashed all over the board, and yet they come back and people still use their programs and promote them. They open a new program or shadow company, people line up and sign up. We have seen endless number of tube threads about content theft and killing this industry with sites like Brazzers, Vidz, among others yet people still promote them, producers still shoot for them. BROventions still take their ad dollars, and some sponsor the conferences. We have seen endless issues with EPASS over the years, yet people still use them. Some web hosting companies slammed on GFY almost weekly, and people still host with them.

In the end, the only people who care about trolls are trolls. Business still gets done.
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Love the site design on the site in your sig.
thanks alot! we changed it a few times. since 50% of the people joining are women which I didnt expect. so we removed the porn feel completely
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there is nothing wrong with followers if you actually do biz here stay away from the mob mentality and dont just talk shit etc.
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there is nothing wrong with followers if you actually do biz here stay away from the mob mentality and dont just talk shit etc.
Have I ever talked shit Roger? Havent done biz on gfy in years. GFY got us the gig with you like 8 yrs ago. God we are getting old lol
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Thats a leader

what made me post this was becasue of google. I used to buy 100k a year in adwords and after years of doing biz with them they shut me off for no reason. I couldnt get any answers from anyone there. finally spoke to one of the costumer support people and they said google doesnt care because they are the 3rd largest company in the world. I was shocked and I was a customer plus I followed all the T & C

now all my biz goes to yahoo and bing.

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why even waste your time replying unless its to amuse yourself.

If you have never been the first to do something in the adult industry your are one of these. Mob, Follower, Wannabe, Hater, Troll, Anon etc

feel free to add to the list.
Why do you care what the leaders think ?

What have you been the first to do ?
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I started to become a leader when I was 16 before that I was a follower
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Why do you care what the leaders think ?

What have you been the first to do ?
in the adult industry way to much to list. I've been doing this for over 15 years.

what about you. I would say you are a hater, follower and part of the mob
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what made me post this was becasue of google. I used to buy 100k a year in adwords and after years of doing biz with them they shut me off for no reason. I couldnt get any answers from anyone there. finally spoke to one of the costumer support people and they said google doesnt care because they are the 3rd largest company in the world. I was shocked and I was a customer plus I followed all the T & C

now all my biz goes to yahoo and bing.
Welcome to the club of people booted from Google. Was it for adult? I know other webmaster's who got their accounts canned for x-sales below the submits, others for girls who looked too young, etc. etc. And some of these accounts were in the 6 figures per month too and Google could care less anymore. To hell with them...
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I started to become a leader when I was 16 before that I was a follower
so all your back and forth with franck was for your amusement?
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I've been the first to do a few things. Started www.modelgig.com in end of 2001. Most recently... started selling exgf legal content on May of 2009. I try my best to not be a follower but sometimes if something works and makes $ I'll follow. :-)
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first and last response to a hater and a wannabe anon

I feel sorry for you ( pat on the back)
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I've been the first to do a few things. Started www.modelgig.com in end of 2001. Most recently... started selling exgf legal content on May of 2009. I try my best to not be a follower but sometimes if something works and makes $ I'll follow. :-)
Nothing wrong with that. I agree
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so all your back and forth with franck was for your amusement?
yes it was 100% cause I got tired of his BS and trolling
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Wait Im not a follower.I treat my customer with respect and never did xcross sales. Talked more girls out of doing porn than doing it, I dont like people to have regrets. Always been honorable in all my dealings. Now doing those things havent made me rich but I can look myself in the mirror and smile.
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Welcome to the club of people booted from Google. Was it for adult? I know other webmaster's who got their accounts canned for x-sales below the submits, others for girls who looked too young, etc. etc. And some of these accounts were in the 6 figures per month too and Google could care less anymore. To hell with them...
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both maintream and adult.. if it was just my adult stuff i could maybe understand.

I was just in the 5 figures monthly they didnt give a shit.

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Wait Im not a follower.I treat my customer with respect and never did xcross sales. Talked more girls out of doing porn than doing it, I dont like people to have regrets. Always been honorable in all my dealings. Now doing those things havent made me rich but I can look myself in the mirror and smile.
you dont have to be rich to be a leader
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yes it was 100% cause I got tired of his BS and trolling
thx for clearing that up, it sure looked like he thoroughly pissed you off. glad it was all in fun!

here's a pic of some peeps having fun on a roller coaster!

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I've been the first to do a few things. Started www.modelgig.com in end of 2001. Most recently... started selling exgf legal content on May of 2009. I try my best to not be a follower but sometimes if something works and makes $ I'll follow. :-)
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maybe thats why this industry is struggling and the mob is growing not to many innovators and leaders like back pre 2000 around anymore
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thx for clearing that up, it sure looked like he thoroughly pissed you off. glad it was all in fun!

here's a pic of some peeps having fun on a roller coaster!

how old are you? do you really think I give a shit about people like dfrank

if everyone on GFY hated on me I wouldnt care it just makes me stronger
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in the adult industry way to much to list. I've been doing this for over 15 years.

what about you. I would say you are a hater, follower and part of the mob
oh i have way too much to list too. I've been doing this online for 11 years.

btw, I lead the mob. ;)
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oh i have way too much to list too. I've been doing this online for 11 years.

btw, I lead the mob. ;)
I doubt it.. wannabe you couldnt lead horses to water
post 2000 the paris hilton video. i posted one now you can? if not leave this thread to the leaders no room left for your dumb ass

all you are is a hater I feel sorry for you also (pat on the back)
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post 2000 the paris hilton video. i posted one now you can? if not leave this thread to the leaders no room left for your dumb ass

is that english, sorry I don't understand.
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is that english, sorry I don't understand.
No worries I expected this type of response.

any type of leader would be able to understand what I wrote even if I was talkin in ebonics

which is why you will always be a follower and hater
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you were not the first to do anything in adult

complete delusion has overcome you

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(not very original though. must have been a follower that made this)
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how old are you?
i'm 46.

ironic how you use that washed up & trite *how old are you* comeback in a thread you start re: your being an innovative leader giving advice to leaders of the industry replying to/wasting time with what others, whom you deem less than, have to say. fact is, rogerv, the person you think you are and the person you come across as are 2 vastly different people.

this thread is yet another thread of yours that proves that.
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maybe thats why this industry is struggling and the mob is growing not to many innovators and leaders like back pre 2000 around anymore
No the reason why the industry is struggling. Innovation is not the key its jacking off not rocket science.
The problem is cost of entry is too cheap to get into adult. So you have so many people running after only so many people. So the goal has became to fuck the customer make my quick buck and get out. being faceless on the net also feeds that its easier to fuck someone when you dont have to see them face to face.When you had bricks and mortar you wanted to take care of the customer so he came back and you had a large investment in the store.
I remember the recession in the 80's I worked in the car business a dealership was closing a week in the US. When I got laid off from Mercedes, adult which was my part time gig became my ft gig. I worked in strip clubs, video stores. They made all types of money and took care of the customer. When the economy went south this time, the industry should of been pulling back on free content instead of giving away free scenes on the hope someone will like it so much they will buy. The problem is most of them never were porn buyers so they don't understand how the porn buyers mind works. If I found I scene I liked, I could jack off to it for years.
There are no leaders in this industry. .xxx could really fuck this industry up and not one of the so called leaders showed up at the icann meeting. Now if there was some vacation spot, a look at how big my cock is webmaster event large percentage of their asses would all be there. The brick and mortar guys were long term thinkers and if this industry doesnt switch to that. Its in trouble.

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what made me post this was becasue of google. I used to buy 100k a year in adwords and after years of doing biz with them they shut me off for no reason. I couldnt get any answers from anyone there. finally spoke to one of the costumer support people and they said google doesnt care because they are the 3rd largest company in the world. I was shocked and I was a customer plus I followed all the T & C

now all my biz goes to yahoo and bing.
Did you read this: http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=145720

Pareto's principal is true in this case too.
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and you have no clue. if it failed do you think it would still be up and running use your head hater.. damn sheep

while programs shut down we are growing strong everyday
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Did you read this: http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=145720

Pareto's principal is true in this case too.
seems like google sold out to big business fuck them
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:26 PM   #50
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i'm 46.

ironic how you use that washed up & trite *how old are you* comeback in a thread you start re: your being an innovative leader giving advice to leaders of the industry replying to/wasting time with what others, whom you deem less than, have to say. fact is, rogerv, the person you think you are and the person you come across as are 2 vastly different people.

this thread is yet another thread of yours that proves that.
only a punk kid would post a pic like you did. maybe you never grew up
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