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When you say "music today" you are citing the bullshit on TV and radio. Like your hopelessly boring bullshit of decades past is better than the hopelessly boring, unmusical bullshit of today. Your entire sphere of musical knowledge revolves completely around commercial music. Best of luck trying to argue your way out of that corner without making me laugh. Really shows how completely and fully ignorant to the guitar, guitar theory, and the whole summation of music you are. I know you'll get on your high-horse about Hendrix next but I'm not saying any popular acts from today are any better than the masturbatory boomer noisemakers from the past. Thats the hilarious part about this banter. No mention of the truly great guitarists past/present from America or the ones of the world stage who have struggled endlessly in America for decades. Just a retarded comparison of shitty over-hyped rock guitarists to the shitty corporate machine of today. Same shit machine, different calendar year. Same old boomers trying to hilariously convince the world that their hero's of yore are better than present day "guitar hero's" without even knowing what a real guitarist or even music sounds like. Probably why legendary, once in a century type guitarists like Paco De Lucia would rather tend to their garden than play music anymore. Quote:
Then I guess we belong to the same generation unless you are collecting SS checks. You sure sound like a typical ignorant, idiotic boomer when it comes to music. |
As long as playing rock guitar in a band = instant pussy rock will live on :)
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I stopped listening to "bands" years ago. A few guys playing instruments just sounds so lame.
When I go back and listen to some rock songs I crack up because they sound so simple now. Music has progressed and natural instruments sound played out. I'm not saying it's right, but music has moved on and my tastes have changed as well. |
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I can show you MANY "metal" bands wearing makeup, wearing nail polish, and even having dyed hair. I'm assuming you also missed the entire 80s? |
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Anyone that says rock sucks isn't listening to much music. Satellite is where its at. Also, use a LastFm or Grooveshark to find stuff for you, based on artists you already like. |
Thanks for that post FetishWeb. Lamenting rock guitar is the equivalent of lamenting the death of disco but 50 year old dudes with mullets are too cool for disco, the irony. Had a chance to catch Fred Frith recently, still going strong after 40 years. One of the great guitarists of this century, his timeless or out-of-time music will be influencing future generations of guitar players long after Slash (seriously, did the OP actually mention Slash?) has been washed away by the tides of time.
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Pete Townshend Stephen Stills Jimi Hendryx Alex Lifeson Ritchie Blackmore Carlos Santana I could go on and on but what's the point. You know it's true as well as I do. I assume you have ears. But generational pride and youthful hubris makes you post in defense of noise. Admit it, you go home, put on some Pink Floyd and jack off to David Gilmour's solo from 'Mother', now don't you? :thumbsup PS: Eddie Van Halen |
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Tom Verlaine = FAIL
Ash Bowie = FAIL Lee Ranaldo = FAIL All quite "good" but not "as good" as the ones I mentioned. Besides, this isn't about "personal preference"; this is about whether or not today's guitarists, on a whole/as a group, have either the chops their elders had (they don't) or can they/do they run off amazing SOLOS like they used to "back in the day" ('Freebird'-style). They don't. Denial is a river in Egypt. |
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The new Avenged Sevenfold disc is great, if you like hard rock and lots of guitar solos.
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Of course, there's another way of looking at it. We're getting OLD. Remember when you were a kid and your parents hated the music that you listened to? Same thing today.
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February 3, 1959.
My Dad was only seven but he tells me that when he heard the news on the radio he knew that his life had somehow changed. And he also says that he remembers that he cried on the Day The Music Died. He also remembers that his parents would not console him because he wasn't supposed to be listening to that "jungle music". Dad would turn the radio to 710 AM, WHB, World's Happiest Broadcasters, when his parents weren't home. WHB was a pioneer in Top 40 and Dad still keeps the radio in his first car set on AM 710, even though it is now a different format. He has a concealed FM radio for the Oldies and current Rock' Roll.
WHB: http://www.worldshappiestbroadcasters.com/ Some people think that Dad is half a bubble off plumb but he is a die-hard Rocker and always will be. His first car is named "Teri's" and his hot rod, a '41 Cadillac 62 Series De Luxe coupe with a '64 Cad 390 equipped with an early El Dorado six-pack setup is named "Twilight Time". Well, the motor is bored and stroked up to like 460 and maybe does 425 HP but that is not the issue as on the highway it will yield around 19-20 mpg if he keeps his foot out of it but he says there is no fun in keeping his foot out of it, so there ya go. Just can't get past the sound of those six barrels sucking in! He knows Junior Johnson. He builds his own engines. And............................................... ................. .......he gave me his Corvette! 1968 427-cid 435-hp V-8 with 11.0:1 compression ratio, 4-speed manual transmission, and three two-barrel carburetors. With A/C. Safari Yellow. Black interior. Convertible. 80,000 miles. ROCK AND ROLL! Sally. |
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Mos Def plays bass, RZA plays guitar, Kanye West plays piano, etc. Get out, moron. |
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Edge (U2) Tom Morello Synyster Gates Tariqh Akoni And theyre just a few "big" names. There's SO many that are better than the regarded top guitarists that are not in rock. |
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NOT heavy metal, alternative, speed metal, death metal, grunge, etc etc etc. ROCK and ROLL. Keith Richards, Pete Townshend, Dave Davies ROCK and ROLL. This isn't "list your favorite guitarist" thread. This is "there ain't anyone as good IN ROCK AND ROLL anymore as the above mentioned" thread. Shit, Jose Felliciano could pick a mean latin acoustic guitar but AGAIN: ROCK and ROLL. |
Saying guitar music is dead because 80's shredding is currently lamer than Van Halen's fishnets is basically like wearing a sign that says "I'm wilfully musically ignorant".
And the only person to mention either Paco or Di Meola agrees with me heh. |
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We're also talking rock guitar, see thread title. There were 0 misinterpretations in my list. The topic also transformed into an all around guitarist when the debate on eras was brought up. |
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^^^ Best gig I've ever been to in my entire life. |
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The dude in Pelican plays with an e-bow too. Guitars have so much latent potential that goes beyond speed chord progressions. Bringing out this potential whilst gentling balancing or even creating tension between harmony and discordance is what turns a guitar hero master into an artist. None of those 60's/70's guitarists aside from maybe Hendrix made me think of guitar playing in a new way; they all lacked a cerebral element, completely drab. And after a while it just became so repetitive, thank god for no wave.
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The music industry started to really change the day MTV started broadcasting and the video became as important as the song. Then it became more important than the song.
Then piracy hit the business and record companies realised the money was to be made in getting as many acts out there for their 5 minutes of fame before they died a death. Commercially speaking. If you look at the past legends and see how long it took for them to perfect their art and techniques you can see why they will never come back to the same prominence. Bands would be on the road for years gaining experience and developing their talents. Today they are famous and back flipping burgers in less time. Even fringe bands, the same rule applies. |
Rock isn't dead. Kids today are not into Rock BECAUSE their aging parents still listen to it! Kids do not want to listen to the same shit their parents do. Rock music is a form of rebellion against parents and society. Because all these aging adults haven't moved on to Jazz and classical music, kids today are stuck with this disco funk dance hip hop shit because their Parents don't listen to music that you can dance to.
In about 15 to 20 more years, rock will be back in style again. With an angry broke ass nation knee deep in a major depression, rock will spawn again from the angry voices of the new generation. Some of us will see this in our late 70's and 80's. Today's kids are not angry enough to even write a rock song anyways. Today's music is all about glam, hype, gold chains and who has the cutest face, even though they can't sign for shit. (Taylor Swift good example of a no talent studio peice of crap. I'll take Grace Slick any day) Rock will never die... it's just on a break. |
You are just seeing an evolution that I lived through repeat itself. I played lead trumpet in Big Bands in the late 50's and early 60's. Played for Tommy Dorsey, Buddy Rich and others. I got out of it in the late 60's cause Big Bands were dying off and the traveling was getting to me.
You are witnessing another generation of the same thing I lived through. Screaming guitars, singers with the mike in their mouth yelling so bad you can't understand a word they are saying ... IT IS DEAD OR SERIOUSLY ON ITS DEATH BED. It's the music evolution. |
I still have my file crate full of LP's, my guitar, and some headphones. So for me it's still 1981 or so in terms of rock music. Every. Day.
And as for the rest, index fingers in ears, la la la la la I cant hear you. |
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