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dyna mo 08-09-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17402850)
Who said anything about that? I was talking about getting rid of an old bus and an old washed up 80's "rock star" at the same time.

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

Amputate Your Head 08-09-2010 03:25 PM

Tied Up In Love - Ted Nugent

Enjoy.


Robbie 08-09-2010 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17403030)
after "Penetrator".... i truly felt violated.

That just don't sound right! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Quentin 08-09-2010 04:16 PM

This reminds me a bit of the people who complained that America had become a "police state" under GW Bush. Such people have never witnessed a real police state, and have no idea of what they speak.

By the same token, I get the sense that ol' Ted Nugent just likes the way that some of these phrases sound, rather than having any grasp of what they mean.

Why do I get that sense? Well, this paragraph, for starters.

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This president's overtly destructive, clear-and-present-danger agenda is surpassed in transparency only by his ultra-leftist public voting record and overall lifetime conduct of consorting with the enemy as a child and student of Marxism, socialist and racist community organizer, congregant of the blatant America-hating black-theology- and social-justice-spewing Rev. Jeremiah Wright and close personal friend of convicted communist terrorists like Bill Ayers, and by his unflinching appointment of an array of communist czars, including Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, Anita Dunne, et al.
So.... Ted Nugent has the audacity to rail about other people being uneducated and/or ignorant of history.... and then he uses a phrase like "communist czar?" :1orglaugh

Earth to Ted: the Czars were kicked out of power in 1917..... by communists, you fucking genius.

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But it gets worse
Do tell, Ted!

On second thought... don't. I'm still laughing so hard from reading the phrase "communist czars" in close proximity to the assertion that your ideological opponents are "uneducated" and "history-devoid" that I wouldn't be listening anyway.

Vendzilla 08-09-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17402918)
He's actually an "old washed up" 60's rock star. His first album "The Amboy Dukes" came out in 1967. He's had a lot of big records over a lot of decades.

I have some old Amboy Dukes stuff, got vinyl on cat sratch fever, he's had hits in the 60's, 70's and 80's and had a reality show a few years back about hunting and several hunting shows. He's touring now probably which hardly means he's washed up at all, if he were, we wouldn't be posting so much about him in this thread

Vendzilla 08-09-2010 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 17403152)
So.... Ted Nugent has the audacity to rail about other people being uneducated and/or ignorant of history.... and then he uses a phrase like "communist czar?" :1orglaugh

Earth to Ted: the Czars were kicked out of power in 1917..... by communists, you fucking genius.

.

Good thing he's a genius, because you're not too fucking bright

here's a list of the CZAR's that Obama has appointed

Afghanistan Czar - Richard Holbrooke
AIDS Czar - Jeffrey Crowley
Auto Recovery czar - Ed Montgomery
Border Czar - Alan Bersin
Car Czar - Ron Bloom
Central Region Czar - Dennis Ross
Domestic Violence Czar - Lynn Rosenthal
Drug Czar - Gil Kerlikowske
Economic Czar - Paul Volcker
Energy and Environment Czar - Carol Browner
Faith-Based Czar - Joshua DuBois
Great Lakes Czar - Cameron Davis
Green Jobs Czar - Van Jones (resigned on Sept. 6)
Guantanamo Closure Czar - Daniel Fried
Health Czar - Nancy-Ann DeParl
Information Czar - Vivek Kundra
International Climate Czar - Todd Stern
Mideast Peace Czar - George Mitchell
Pay Czar - Kenneth Feinberg
Regulatory Czar - Cass Sunstein *
Science Czar - John Holdren
Stimulus Accountability Czar - Earl Devaney - statutory position
Sudan Czar - J. Scott Gration
TARP Czar - Herb Allison
Terrorism Czar - John Brennan
Technology Czar- Aneesh Chopra
Urban Affairs Czar - Adolfo Carrion Jr.
Weapons Czar - Ashton Carter
WMD Policy Czar - Gary Samore

Coup 08-09-2010 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17403202)
Good thing he's a genius, because you're not too fucking bright

here's a list of the CZAR's that Obama has appointed

Afghanistan Czar - Richard Holbrooke
AIDS Czar - Jeffrey Crowley
Auto Recovery czar - Ed Montgomery
Border Czar - Alan Bersin
Car Czar - Ron Bloom
Central Region Czar - Dennis Ross
Domestic Violence Czar - Lynn Rosenthal
Drug Czar - Gil Kerlikowske
Economic Czar - Paul Volcker
Energy and Environment Czar - Carol Browner
Faith-Based Czar - Joshua DuBois
Great Lakes Czar - Cameron Davis
Green Jobs Czar - Van Jones (resigned on Sept. 6)
Guantanamo Closure Czar - Daniel Fried
Health Czar - Nancy-Ann DeParl
Information Czar - Vivek Kundra
International Climate Czar - Todd Stern
Mideast Peace Czar - George Mitchell
Pay Czar - Kenneth Feinberg
Regulatory Czar - Cass Sunstein *
Science Czar - John Holdren
Stimulus Accountability Czar - Earl Devaney - statutory position
Sudan Czar - J. Scott Gration
TARP Czar - Herb Allison
Terrorism Czar - John Brennan
Technology Czar- Aneesh Chopra
Urban Affairs Czar - Adolfo Carrion Jr.
Weapons Czar - Ashton Carter
WMD Policy Czar - Gary Samore

What does any of this shit have to do with what he said?

Robbie 08-09-2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17403188)
I have some old Amboy Dukes stuff, got vinyl on cat sratch fever, he's had hits in the 60's, 70's and 80's and had a reality show a few years back about hunting and several hunting shows. He's touring now probably which hardly means he's washed up at all, if he were, we wouldn't be posting so much about him in this thread

He also kicked a little bit of ass in the 1990's with Damn Yankees.

I love Ted's music. My partner in my first "real" pro band (doing it for a living) was bassist Rob Ruzga. He was the bassist for Ted and The Amboy Dukes "Survival Of The Fittest"

Rob and I played all over the country from 1979 to 1989. Used to get on the phone all the time with KJ Knight and even made a couple of drunk calls to a very pissed off Ted. lol

Rob had all their phone numbers. He was my best friend for years. Died 2 years ago from liver failure (raging alcoholic unfortuntately) A helluva great bassist who could really play some funk for a white boy from Detroit.

Vendzilla 08-09-2010 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17403360)
He also kicked a little bit of ass in the 1990's with Damn Yankees.

I love Ted's music. My partner in my first "real" pro band (doing it for a living) was bassist Rob Ruzga. He was the bassist for Ted and The Amboy Dukes "Survival Of The Fittest"

Rob and I played all over the country from 1979 to 1989. Used to get on the phone all the time with KJ Knight and even made a couple of drunk calls to a very pissed off Ted. lol

Rob had all their phone numbers. He was my best friend for years. Died 2 years ago from liver failure (raging alcoholic unfortuntately) A helluva great bassist who could really play some funk for a white boy from Detroit.

Forgot about Damn Yankees
I was a big fan in high school of his music, when I got my first car, a 1967 baracuda fast back, I had 3 tapes for my deck, one was Ted. I used a linear amp for a CB radio to boost the power of my stereo on my car, had 4 speakers in the back deck. I miss that car

Vendzilla 08-09-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17403340)
What does any of this shit have to do with what he said?

whats the matter, hook on phonics not working for you?

he made fun of the czars statment, said they were out of power, I corrected him, end of discussion

SallyRand 08-09-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17403340)
What does any of this shit have to do with what he said?

You just proved that you did not read the original post since you have to ask the question.

Allow me to retort:

"Barack Hussein Obama did not sneak into power. An army of clueless, disconnected, ignorant Americans invited him to bring his Marxist, glaringly anti-American jihad into our lives. This president's overtly destructive, clear-and-present-danger agenda is surpassed in transparency only by his ultra-leftist public voting record and overall lifetime conduct of consorting with the enemy as a child and student of Marxism, socialist and racist community organizer, congregant of the blatant America-hating black-theology- and social-justice-spewing Rev. Jeremiah Wright and close personal friend of convicted communist terrorists like Bill Ayers, and by his unflinching appointment of an array of communist czars, including Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, Anita Dunne, et al."

Take special note of the last sentence.

Sally.

charlie g 08-09-2010 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17403429)
Forgot about Damn Yankees
I was a big fan in high school of his music, when I got my first car, a 1967 baracuda fast back, I had 3 tapes for my deck, one was Ted. I used a linear amp for a CB radio to boost the power of my stereo on my car, had 4 speakers in the back deck. I miss that car

Heh, I had a 67' chevelle with cat scratch fever-nazereth-James Gang on the 8track and a one-hitter under the seat. I was a cool mullet wearing MoFo in 77'.

Vendzilla 08-09-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17403460)
Heh, I had a 67' chevelle with cat scratch fever-nazereth-James Gang on the 8track and a one-hitter under the seat. I was a cool mullet wearing MoFo in 77'.

I got my first ticket in a 67 super sport with a 396 under the hood, the judge asked me what I was doing on main street at 2 am going 40 in a 25, I told him getting it out of first gear. Car belonged to my buddy, he was driving my Cuda with a 426 wedge.

ps, that ticket cost $10, that was 1977

BFT3K 08-09-2010 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17403202)
Good thing he's a genius, because you're not too fucking bright

here's a list of the CZAR's that Obama has appointed

Afghanistan Czar - Richard Holbrooke
AIDS Czar - Jeffrey Crowley
Auto Recovery czar - Ed Montgomery
Border Czar - Alan Bersin
Car Czar - Ron Bloom
Central Region Czar - Dennis Ross
Domestic Violence Czar - Lynn Rosenthal
Drug Czar - Gil Kerlikowske
Economic Czar - Paul Volcker
Energy and Environment Czar - Carol Browner
Faith-Based Czar - Joshua DuBois
Great Lakes Czar - Cameron Davis
Green Jobs Czar - Van Jones (resigned on Sept. 6)
Guantanamo Closure Czar - Daniel Fried
Health Czar - Nancy-Ann DeParl
Information Czar - Vivek Kundra
International Climate Czar - Todd Stern
Mideast Peace Czar - George Mitchell
Pay Czar - Kenneth Feinberg
Regulatory Czar - Cass Sunstein *
Science Czar - John Holdren
Stimulus Accountability Czar - Earl Devaney - statutory position
Sudan Czar - J. Scott Gration
TARP Czar - Herb Allison
Terrorism Czar - John Brennan
Technology Czar- Aneesh Chopra
Urban Affairs Czar - Adolfo Carrion Jr.
Weapons Czar - Ashton Carter
WMD Policy Czar - Gary Samore

Great, here?s George Bush?s list of Czars he used from January 2001 to January 2009:

Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O?Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
Birth control czar (Erik Keroack)
Budget czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
Science Czar (John Marburger)
Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
War Czar (Douglas Lute)

SallyRand 08-09-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17403832)
Great, here?s George Bush?s list of Czars he used from January 2001 to January 2009:

Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O?Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
Birth control czar (Erik Keroack)
Budget czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
Science Czar (John Marburger)
Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
War Czar (Douglas Lute)

You know in post-WW I Russia, they killed the Czar.

Verbum Sapienti.

Sally.

Robbie 08-09-2010 11:01 PM

I do say that the last couple of decades having presidents name "czars" for different things did sound rather strange. Made it sound like old Russia.

And then having something called "Homeland Security" makes me think of Hitler's "Fatherland"
Not saying we are like the Nazi's (or maybe we are) but just saying that the words themselves don't sound right to me as an American.

Words like "czar" and "Homeland Security" just SOUND un-American for some reason to me.

Amputate Your Head 08-09-2010 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17403881)
I do say that the last couple of decades having presidents name "czars" for different things did sound rather strange. Made it sound like old Russia.

And then having something called "Homeland Security" makes me think of Hitler's "Fatherland"
Not saying we are like the Nazi's (or maybe we are) but just saying that the words themselves don't sound right to me as an American.

Words like "czar" and "Homeland Security" just SOUND un-American for some reason to me.

It's the ones they try to wrap up in a flag that irritate me. "Patriot Act"? Cleverly named so the sheep think it's good for them.

mikesinner 08-09-2010 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17403202)
Good thing he's a genius, because you're not too fucking bright

here's a list of the CZAR's that Obama has appointed

Afghanistan Czar - Richard Holbrooke
AIDS Czar - Jeffrey Crowley
Auto Recovery czar - Ed Montgomery
Border Czar - Alan Bersin
Car Czar - Ron Bloom
Central Region Czar - Dennis Ross
Domestic Violence Czar - Lynn Rosenthal
Drug Czar - Gil Kerlikowske
Economic Czar - Paul Volcker
Energy and Environment Czar - Carol Browner
Faith-Based Czar - Joshua DuBois
Great Lakes Czar - Cameron Davis
Green Jobs Czar - Van Jones (resigned on Sept. 6)
Guantanamo Closure Czar - Daniel Fried
Health Czar - Nancy-Ann DeParl
Information Czar - Vivek Kundra
International Climate Czar - Todd Stern
Mideast Peace Czar - George Mitchell
Pay Czar - Kenneth Feinberg
Regulatory Czar - Cass Sunstein *
Science Czar - John Holdren
Stimulus Accountability Czar - Earl Devaney - statutory position
Sudan Czar - J. Scott Gration
TARP Czar - Herb Allison
Terrorism Czar - John Brennan
Technology Czar- Aneesh Chopra
Urban Affairs Czar - Adolfo Carrion Jr.
Weapons Czar - Ashton Carter
WMD Policy Czar - Gary Samore

Actually most of those positions were created by the bush administration. fox news just started calling them czars because their viewers will believe anything.

They are advisory positions. Fox news calls then czars. The Obama administration doesn't call them that. These are mostly positions created by the previous administration. Much of this BS comes from the religious right wing. If we could separate the religious conservatives from the political conservatives we would be a lot better off.

Robbie 08-09-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17403883)
It's the ones they try to wrap up in a flag that irritate me. "Patriot Act"? Cleverly named so the sheep think it's good for them.

Yeah, a law that took away our rights... to "protect" us. George Washington & Thomas Jefferson would hang those politicians with the first rope from the highest tree. lol

I also like the way they re-define stuff. "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" used to mean "Nuclear Weapons" But they changed that to mean Chemical Weapons (which used to be known as "chemical weapons" :1orglaugh ) and anything else that killed people.

Mass Destruction used to mean everything was DESTROYED. But the damn U.S. government re-defines things to fit their needs I suppose.

Robbie 08-09-2010 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 17403889)
fox news just started calling them czars because their viewers will believe anything.

Fox news has been calling the so-called "Czars" by the name "czars" ever since they've been on the air. They're just a news channel if you actually watch the news broadcast like Shepard Smith. All the other filler shows are opinion shows. Just like CNN and CNBC

You just have to use your common sense to know when a news reporter is reading the news and when a commentator on ANY of the news channel is giving opinion. :)

JFK 08-10-2010 12:12 AM

100 enemies:disgust

charlie g 08-10-2010 02:19 AM

Fox News is fair and balanced. I know because they told me.

ottopottomouse 08-10-2010 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17403895)
You just have to use your common sense to know when a news reporter is reading the news and when a commentator on ANY of the news channel is giving opinion. :)

Common sense is in short supply :upsidedow

docputer 08-10-2010 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17403202)
Good thing he's a genius, because you're not too fucking bright

here's a list of the CZAR's that Obama has appointed

Afghanistan Czar - Richard Holbrooke
AIDS Czar - Jeffrey Crowley
Auto Recovery czar - Ed Montgomery
Border Czar - Alan Bersin
Car Czar - Ron Bloom
Central Region Czar - Dennis Ross
Domestic Violence Czar - Lynn Rosenthal
Drug Czar - Gil Kerlikowske
Economic Czar - Paul Volcker
Energy and Environment Czar - Carol Browner
Faith-Based Czar - Joshua DuBois
Great Lakes Czar - Cameron Davis
Green Jobs Czar - Van Jones (resigned on Sept. 6)
Guantanamo Closure Czar - Daniel Fried
Health Czar - Nancy-Ann DeParl
Information Czar - Vivek Kundra
International Climate Czar - Todd Stern
Mideast Peace Czar - George Mitchell
Pay Czar - Kenneth Feinberg
Regulatory Czar - Cass Sunstein *
Science Czar - John Holdren
Stimulus Accountability Czar - Earl Devaney - statutory position
Sudan Czar - J. Scott Gration
TARP Czar - Herb Allison
Terrorism Czar - John Brennan
Technology Czar- Aneesh Chopra
Urban Affairs Czar - Adolfo Carrion Jr.
Weapons Czar - Ashton Carter
WMD Policy Czar - Gary Samore

None of these people actually have jobs with a title of Czar. That is more like a title bestowed by the press. and while we are at it,

GWBush had more (35) czars than Obama(32) and many who are considered Czars in the Obama administration are carryover Bush appointees..

Vendzilla 08-10-2010 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 17403889)
Actually most of those positions were created by the bush administration. fox news just started calling them czars because their viewers will believe anything.

They are advisory positions. Fox news calls then czars. The Obama administration doesn't call them that. These are mostly positions created by the previous administration. Much of this BS comes from the religious right wing. If we could separate the religious conservatives from the political conservatives we would be a lot better off.

So I guess Fox is the leader, because the names stuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17403895)
Fox news has been calling the so-called "Czars" by the name "czars" ever since they've been on the air. They're just a news channel if you actually watch the news broadcast like Shepard Smith. All the other filler shows are opinion shows. Just like CNN and CNBC

You just have to use your common sense to know when a news reporter is reading the news and when a commentator on ANY of the news channel is giving opinion. :)

the country is center right, has been for a long time, only one news company understood that and that's why they are number 1 for 10 years and why they got a front row seat at the white house press room. Im sure the present administration didn't want that.
Quote:

Originally Posted by docputer (Post 17404203)
None of these people actually have jobs with a title of Czar. That is more like a title bestowed by the press. and while we are at it,

GWBush had more (35) czars than Obama(32) and many who are considered Czars in the Obama administration are carryover Bush appointees..

They still have the title and what does the number of them matter? Or do you want to talk about why Van Jones left?

Quentin 08-10-2010 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17403202)
Good thing he's a genius, because you're not too fucking bright

here's a list of the CZAR's that Obama has appointed

Afghanistan Czar - Richard Holbrooke
AIDS Czar - Jeffrey Crowley
Auto Recovery czar - Ed Montgomery
Border Czar - Alan Bersin
Car Czar - Ron Bloom
Central Region Czar - Dennis Ross
Domestic Violence Czar - Lynn Rosenthal
Drug Czar - Gil Kerlikowske
Economic Czar - Paul Volcker
Energy and Environment Czar - Carol Browner
Faith-Based Czar - Joshua DuBois
Great Lakes Czar - Cameron Davis
Green Jobs Czar - Van Jones (resigned on Sept. 6)
Guantanamo Closure Czar - Daniel Fried
Health Czar - Nancy-Ann DeParl
Information Czar - Vivek Kundra
International Climate Czar - Todd Stern
Mideast Peace Czar - George Mitchell
Pay Czar - Kenneth Feinberg
Regulatory Czar - Cass Sunstein *
Science Czar - John Holdren
Stimulus Accountability Czar - Earl Devaney - statutory position
Sudan Czar - J. Scott Gration
TARP Czar - Herb Allison
Terrorism Czar - John Brennan
Technology Czar- Aneesh Chopra
Urban Affairs Czar - Adolfo Carrion Jr.
Weapons Czar - Ashton Carter
WMD Policy Czar - Gary Samore

Fair enough.... I owe Ted an apology for taking his statement literally.

Sorry Ted.

I still maintain that if one thinks ANY of these people are "communists" then that merely indicates that you don't what a communist is.

Look, I'm not a big fan of Obama, either -- but all this nonsense of calling him a "socialist" or "communist," or his calling appointees such is merely muddying the substantive policy debates that need to be kept on serious footing, and need to involve (among other thing) an accurate assessment of fact. If you are maligning your non-communist opponents as communists, then you aren't being factual. Period.

When someone calls Obama a communist, I react no differently than I did when people called Bush a "nazi" during the last administration. When someone commenting on politics reaches for the nazi/Hitler comparison, or the communist/Stalin comparsion, I tend to think that person isn't terribly reasonable. To me, it is pretty clear that they are employing extremist rhetoric to demonize the opposition, instead of making a reasonable, valid point. :2 cents:

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 08-18-2010 11:00 PM

Rocker Ted Nugent pleads no contest to Northern California deer baiting

Quote:

(AP) MARYSVILLE -- Rocker and celebrity hunter Ted Nugent is facing a $1,750 fine after pleading no contest in Northern California to baiting a deer and not having a properly signed hunting tag.

California Department of Fish and Game spokesman Patrick Foy said game wardens saw Nugent kill an immature buck on a February episode of his Outdoor Channel TV show "Spirit of the Wild."

Investigators found that the deer had been eating bait called "C'mere Deer."

Baiting wildlife is illegal in California.

Nugent originally faced 11 charges, including killing a deer too young to be hunted. However, in a deal with Yuba County prosecutors, attorney Jack Kopp entered no contest pleas Friday to the two misdemeanors on behalf of Nugent, who did not appear in court.
Ted Nugent - The Great White Dope... :disgust

ADG

tiger 08-19-2010 02:17 AM

Whitey is scared.

Vendzilla 08-19-2010 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17426102)
Rocker Ted Nugent pleads no contest to Northern California deer baiting



Ted Nugent - The Great White Dope... :disgust

ADG

I wouldn't want to eat a deer that lived in Marysville.

Evil Chris 08-19-2010 07:47 AM

I like The Nooge, but he's a bit of a loon.

bronco67 08-19-2010 09:22 AM

So no one agrees that he's at least right about the US turning into politically correct bitches?


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