he should stick the guitar up his ass.

http://theliepolitic.com/wp-content/...ma-smoking.jpg

Y'all niggas be trippin

Although his politics, and how he expresses them, I find reprehensible, I like a lot of Ted's music:



I too played in several bands growing up, and we played lots of Nuge...

We used to goof around during practice and play the music to Cat Scratch Fever, while singing the lyrics to his other songs (making fun of the fact that many of his songs during that period were quite similar)...I guess we were ahead of our time in doing mash-ups. :upsidedow



Only goes to prove that talent at one thing (guitar) does not necessarily translate into talent at other things (like eloquent civil discourse and rational thought). :winkwink:

ADG

You are enemies of America!

Great story :thumbsup

I vaguely remember The tree House. I used to go to a big rock club in Hallandale that was just off the east side of 95 and you could see it from the exit ramp. Can't remember the name though. Also used to go to The Other Place in Miami for drink and sink night.

That whole stretch was an awesome place to party up until the cocaine cowboys took over. :)

As far as Ted Nugent goes, I learned more about him in this thread than I've known since I used to listen to his music on the eight track player in my first car. Those were some killer times.

You're talking about "The Button South" My band used to play there all the time too! That place held around 3,000 people.

2 metal bands per night. HUGE house lightshow and PA system. Big load in dock backstage where we would back our 24 foot truck up and our roadies would unload the stage gear. 2 big ass dressing rooms also backstage: one for each band and each equipped with a refrigerator and showers. The first band started at 11 p.m. played 3 sets and then the second band would start and play 3 sets. Between the two bands you played until 6 a.m.

That was a fucking GREAT nightclub! Before it was The Button South it was formerly an "Agora Ball Room" rock club. Then "Crazy Greg" who owned the original "Button On The Beach" on the strip in Lauderdale bought the building and turned it into The Button South.

Holy fuck I had some crazy times playing that gig.

Here's another quick rock "god" gay story. One night I'm playing at The Button South and the security guys came running up while I'm on break yelling at me to follow them...so we all go out the back, and Yngwie Malmsteen is sucking a guys cock in the bushes behind the club! LOL!

He had played in concert at The Button South earlier in the night. I couldn't believe it! Security made him stop and took him in the club to the manager Gary Downs and he got chewed out. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I could tell you guys a million stories from that club...including some very wild Greg Allman heroin stories...but I don't want to completely hijack the Ted Nugent thread. lol

motor city madman
 

terrible ted




i blame the hippies

That's it. :thumbsup

That was a great club. Awesome space for live bands to perform. My favorite part was all the ramps they had instead of stairs so you wouldn't be trippin.

As you pointed out they were one of the few clubs that stayed open past 2:30 or so and the crowd would peak around 1:30 and fade a bit until everyone came in from all the other closed clubs and it would get a second wind.

I would come over from the Gulf Coast just to party there and one night I got a motel room just down the street and went on a beer run and almost drove into that overtown riot :upsidedow

I don't want to derail the thread either but did you ever play Art Stocks Playpen in Ft. Lauderdale? it was half rock and half disco connected by two short hallways. I pulled more wang dang sweet potang outta there than any place else and never once got cat scratch fever.

As I suspected, although there are a number of posts in reply to this thread, NONE of the posts refute ANYTHING in Nugent's editorial!

Not a single one!

No one even tried!

There are however, twenty-one (21) Ad hominem attacks directed against Nugent or myself! Nothing, repeat, nothing in response to Nugent's opinion, save one or two posts in support!

There are of course a few posts which approach hijacking but that's OK; I hadn't expected much more. It should be remembered that the Ad Hominem attack is the last bastion of the so-c and therefore lashes out like a small child denied a cookie! I was a bit surprised at the venom expressed by the "liberals" in this thread, which I find rather odd as most of the people on this forum are hard-working independent businessmen and women, who I would have thought would have expressed just a bit more interest in the manner in which small business is being taxed, the individual is being taxed and the manner in which large business is being supported and even "bailed out" by the Obama administration but not a word.

Libertarians and conservatives THINK, while liberals "feel"; mostly around in the dark IMHO but that is another story for another day.

Sallly.

Who wants to bother to read more than 1 sentence (on accident) of anything a pedophile, draft-dodging schizophrenic nutjob like Nugent has to say about politics?

Further, why do conservatives" always side with these freaks who want to take away even more of your rights, unlike the libertarian party. It was your guy Bushie that pushed for that massive trillion dollar stimulus package, went easy on the illegals almost the point of amnesty (like Reagan), are anti-marijuana, gave the Federal Reserve a blank check with no oversight, actually put in the legislation to make sure no one could find out what they were doing, etc...

50 Right Wing Nut Jobs losing it...:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

There was no need to respond directly to the Ted Nugent rant that you posted, since most rational people can see it as the psycho-babble which it is...unless you mistook the following for rational political discourse:

Glad to see that you support democracy as much as the majority whom elected Barack HUSSEIN Obama... :upsidedow :1orglaugh :helpme :321GFY

ADG

I dig Terrible Ted as a musician,his political views not so much

Make that twenty-two Ad Hominem attacks and no response to anything that Nugent wrote; merely yet another "BUSH DID IT!/BLAME IT ON BUSH!" rant!

Calling them as I see them!

Sally.

You only see what you want to see. :2 cents: Take the blindfold off, Sally.

Read this excerpt from a bio about Ted Nugent on Rotten Tomatoes:

:disgust

ADG

Twenty-three. And what is most interesting is that I have not written that I support or oppose anything that Nugent wrote. I only posted his comments. I have merely asked questions and commented on the REPLIES or lack of them.

Talk about having a on a blindfold!

And as far as "pedo" goes, for those Christians among you, your "God" chose to impregnate a Hebrew girl who would have been somewhere around 13-15 years of age as marriageability was determined by the onset of menses in those primitve times and an unmarried 16 year old girls was considered to be an Old Maid. Nothing to do with Nugent, just FYI.

Sally.

Fuck Ted Nugent.

You mean Ted's God? Ted's very religious, very anti-marijuana, very anti-homosexual. About the past, you don't have to go all that way to 2,000+ years ago. We can take a good look at America only 100 years ago and find some damning traits about the U.S. too if you really felt that made a point.

I can find, as can you, damning points about virtually any culture which exists or has existed on the planet! That's not the point. I can go as far back as I like as can anyone else. The fact that an event occurred hundreds or even thousands of years ago in no way diminishes the importance of that event.

No, I don't mean "Ted's God"; I mean the God of the Christian Bible and you can't try to say that "Ted's God did it but the True Christian God did not!" Ted;s Christian God is the same as all other Christian's God, the veiwpoint depends on what they actually know about their rather odd little book and what it really says.

Sally.

Why did you bother to mention God then? Do you actually believe the Bible, or you were just hoping to insult Christians? You realize he's the same "God" for Judaism and Islam too right? So if you're trying to offend Christians with the comment, you're also kicking the Jews and Muslims.

What does it have to do with Ted's pedophile tendencies? Were you trying to defend him with some weird "It's ok cause God did it too" kind of insane defense?

Christian Love - The Passion of the Mel:



ADG

Not rying to "offend" or insult anyone! If stating the fact that in the time discussed in the bible that marriageable age was anything around fourteen years of age is "insulting". maybe those who adhere to such beliefs should re-assess. Of course I know that the "God" of the Bible is the same "God" adhered to by Christians, Jews and Muslims as those three superstitions are but the three sides of a triangle.

I'm not "kicking" anyone, nor did I "defend" Nugent in anyway; I merely posted his editorial followed by facts. You got a problem with facts?

Sally.

I guess I'm just not interested in using the Bible as some kind of factual basis to excuse pedophiles for their behavior, or as a foundation for your political views. Would you be interested in using Alice in Wonderland to discuss mine?

You do realize that the story of Henri Charrière, otherwise known as "Papillon" has been generally discredited as.....well.....fraud, don't you?

http://rekhabloge.blogspot.com/2010/...e-memoirs.html

From the citation:

"Papillon is a memoir written by convicted felon, Henri Charrière, in which he related the tale of his adventures in various prisons and penal colonies throughout French Guiana and its environs. The book was a runaway bestseller when it was released in France in 1969, was translated into over 15 languages, and was made into a 1973 movie starring Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman.

When Charrière shopped the book, it was intended as a novel, but he was convinced to sell it as a personal memoir by his publisher, Robert Laffont. Nevertheless, Charrière insisted to the public that the entire book was true for the rest of his life. In a narrative brimming with self-importance, Charrière maintained that he was wrongfully convicted of killing a friend, sentenced to hard labour, and that he had a series of escapes and recaptures before being sent to the Devil?s Island Penal Colony.

On Devil?s Island, the butterfly-tattooed convict maintained the he made yet another daring escape on a raft made of coconuts. After this escape, he claimed he had been sent to a Venezuelan detention camp before being pardoned and becoming a Venezuelan citizen. Among his claims, were the assertions that he had stabbed a snitch in prison, lived among natives where he had married and impregnated two teenage sisters, and that, after being recaptured, he had convinced a judge to reduce his sentence because they hadn?t hit the prison guards that hard when they had escaped.

So what was true? Henri Charrière had been convicted of killing a friend, he had escaped from the French Penal Colony in French Guiana, he had been sent to solitary on the island of St. Joseph, and he had eventually escaped to Venezuela after being transferred back to the mainland. The rest of the story was embellished with the accounts of other prisoners and with fantasy from Charrière?s fertile imagination. There is no reason to believe that Charrière was innocent, his first escape was closer to a year than a week after his imprisonment, and many of the excessive rules and conditions Charrière described had been abolished before his arrival. Furthermore, it is unlikely that Charrière had ever even been on Devil?s Island as it was reserved for those convicted for treason, and, even if he had been on Devil?s Island, this French MacGyver never escaped on a coconut raft.

Fellow inmates and prison records attested to the fact that, contrary to his portrayal of himself, Charrière was a rather quiet and submissive prisoner who caused few problems. Already in 1970, the claims of Papillon were overturned by Gérard de Villiers in Papillon Egpinglé (Butterfly Pinned). Charrière vehemently denied de Villiers? claims, even trying to have his book banned. Still, if internet articles are any indication, there are those who continue to believe the events described in Papillon are gospel."

Read it and wep!

Sally.

Yep. Matter of fact a band used to do a house gig there a lot of the time. They were called "The Rockafellas"
They had a young guitar player named Reb Beach who wasn't all that great and was kinda shy.

He met some girl with money. She took him to New York and L.A. Got him vocal lessons. Bought him clothes. Made him practice....

And the next thing I knew this kid was playing guitar with Kip Winger, had his own Ibanez model guitar designed and named after him!

There I was in the trenches playing every fucking nightclub in America doing cover music...and Reb Beach jumped right over me in one fell swoop and became a rock star playing stadiums. lol

I played Art Stocks, JW's House Of Rock, The Button On The Beach, The Button South, The Treehouse, Summers On The Beach, Penrods, The Candy Store...and a lot more right there in Lauderdale.

Those were the days when a good guitar player/singer was basically a "rock star" playing clubs for thousands of people every night. And the pussy was flowing like wine.

sally

My favorite Nugent is Great White Buffalo. And yeah, ted was anti-drug back in the day when it wasn't cool to be. The guy always was true to his beliefs and they haven't changed over the years. Agree or disagree with his philosophies you have to admire someone not wishy-washy.

there was a lot of truth written in ted's rant. you guys are focusing on his past instead of reading what he wrote. actually i think i've read at least 3-4 times in this thread that some of you didn't read much of it or any at all. yet still chimed in to bash. sure some of it is obviously frustration filled and out of line. but kook, nutjob, guitar player or not there is a lot of truth in that article.

i'm actually glad he speaks his mind. instead of sitting back in the shadows like the majority with a voice do, for fear of the backlash hes receiving right now. in my opinion hes saying what a lot of people are thinking just not conveying it correctly.

until people can learn to swallow their pride and step out from behind that political correctness front their holding up. nothing is going to change. at least he gave it a shot.

anyway too much politics for me. go back to arguing about leftists, righties, conservatives and liberals. like we ALL aren't in deep shit in this country right now. instead lets just throw another guy under the bus and that'll be the end of that right? sweep it under the rug maybe it'll go away like our national debt.

heh fat chance.

I vote we put Ted on the bus and roll the old beater off a cliff.

cool bro lets light it on fire before we send it over the edge though. :thumbsup

He is the guy that deemed John McCain as un-american and pathetic.
Enough said.

Oh, Dear Boy, you should try READING what I wrote and if you cannot READ it, have someone else read it aloud to you! I wrote nothing about an "excuse", wrote nothing about any sort of "foundation" for political beliefs and in fact did refer to my religious beliefs when I referred to the three major religions as superstition! Missed that part, didn't you?

Nor did I attempt to justify anything' I merely pointed out that the marriageable age of one culture or religion may not be the same as the next, which is indeed a fact and there seem to be many around here who are troubled by facts.

I have found however that the "Flip Out Factor" kicks in at a fairly low level here and prevents readers from comprehending what was actually written, thereby causing them to miss the salient points entirely as the rhetoric begins to flow.

Sally.

great white buffalo, great white buffalo...

Silencing citizen's free speech is Marxist ideology.

Ted Nugent is way off. America is becoming a fascist police state. The merger of corporate and government. You don't like it they use police brutality to suppress the descent.

Ted Nugent is just a racist.

Who said anything about that? I was talking about getting rid of an old bus and an old washed up 80's "rock star" at the same time.

Anyone who seriously accuses Obama of being a marxist is a fucking retard that doesn't know shit about anything.

He's actually an "old washed up" 60's rock star. His first album "The Amboy Dukes" came out in 1967. He's had a lot of big records over a lot of decades.

His earlier stuff was tolerable, but after "Penetrator".... i truly felt violated. Then Damn Yankees, that flop of a show he had for a while, and that ridiculous "Super Group" fiasco with Sebastian Bach.... I'm waaaaaay over any of the cool Ted may have once had. :Oh crap