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Amputate Your Head · 08-04-2010, 09:02 AM

Fear walks the streets of Phoenix - Aug 2010

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Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- It was an ethnic twist on an American classic, the kind of thing that some people consider appealing and others frightening. Pinto beans, diced tomatoes, salsa and jalapenos top a hot dog that's grilled to perfection. It's 10 o'clock on a Saturday night at ground zero in the immigration debate. The hot dog vendor, a woman from the Mexican state of Sinaloa, would normally be doing a brisk business. Her cart is across the street from a popular Latino dance club that used to be frequented by Mexican-Americans but is now normally crammed with Mexican immigrants.

No mas.

"The city feels abandoned," the woman tells me in Spanish. "Everyone has left."

It sure looks that way during a drive though the city's predominantly Latino west side, with its abandoned buildings, deserted homes and empty parks. Since April, when Gov. Jan Brewer signed SB 1070 to punish illegal immigrants for the sins of the employers who hire them, estimates are that tens of thousands of illegal immigrants have left Arizona for a warmer climate in Utah, Colorado, Texas or New Mexico.

Last week, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton struck down four of the most grotesque and illogical parts of the law, including the requirement that local police attempt to determine the immigration status of individuals they suspect of being in the country illegally and language making it a crime to solicit work. They should have gone back to Mexico, but they'd already put down roots in Phoenix, where the husband could earn at least 10 times what he could make in Mexico. We talked about how some conservatives insist that illegal immigrants take jobs from U.S. workers:

"They're spoiled. They think it's easy to come to the United States legally, and they speak from ignorance."

You've heard how Arizona tried to empower local police to arrest gardeners and housekeepers to crack down on Mexican drug dealers. Baloney. That's just how the state's anti-immigrant efforts are packaged for public consumption. What are nativists supposed to do? Convince Arizonans that the nannies they give their babies to every day are dangerous, that the gardeners to whom they volunteer their security code are a threat. You need drug dealers in this dialogue. Who else are people going to be afraid of?

Not a hot dog vendor. Think about where that woman was from -- Sinaloa. That state is the capital of the Mexican drug trafficking industry. It's quite simple. If you're from Sinaloa and you sell drugs, you can live a luxurious life in Mexico. If you sell hot dogs, you work long, hot nights in the desert. Arizonans are ginning up fear of one to rid their state of the other.

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Arizona: What a nice place to live.

sexdatesj · 08-04-2010, 09:05 AM

I am glad we have this law!

Amputate Your Head · 08-04-2010, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sexdatesj

Another idiot article written by a bunch of idiots looking to sale newspapers!

Does CNN have newspapers?

sexdatesj · 08-04-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Does CNN have newspapers?

Nope, but its all the same either way. I am sick of the ' news ' , they are making
this look and sound worse then it really is.

HighEnergy · 08-04-2010, 09:12 AM

"Fear walks the streets of Phoenix" - That's not even remotely true.

It's true illegals walk the streets in fear but not the general populous.

Jon Oso · 08-04-2010, 09:14 AM

It's SO easy to hate on Arizona if you don't live here, never have lived here, or have only seen it during times like TPF.

I live in a nice enough neighborhood but I'm surrounded by ethnicity. You can definitely tell the difference in lifestyles. Not saying that one is better than the other, but I was born a US citizen, to parents that are US citizens, and LIVING IN ARIZONA I can see the problems others can't.

Amputate Your Head · 08-04-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HighEnergy

"Fear walks the streets of Phoenix" - That's not even remotely true.

It's true illegals walk the streets in fear but not the general populous.

Fear the police!

(or they'll tase the shit outta you until you grow a new healthy fear.)

HighEnergy · 08-04-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sexdatesj

I am glad we have this law!

All things considered SB1070 has been pretty effective so far.

_Richard_ · 08-04-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Fear walks the streets of Phoenix - Aug 2010

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Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- It was an ethnic twist on an American classic, the kind of thing that some people consider appealing and others frightening. Pinto beans, diced tomatoes, salsa and jalapenos top a hot dog that's grilled to perfection. It's 10 o'clock on a Saturday night at ground zero in the immigration debate. The hot dog vendor, a woman from the Mexican state of Sinaloa, would normally be doing a brisk business. Her cart is across the street from a popular Latino dance club that used to be frequented by Mexican-Americans but is now normally crammed with Mexican immigrants.

No mas.

"The city feels abandoned," the woman tells me in Spanish. "Everyone has left."

It sure looks that way during a drive though the city's predominantly Latino west side, with its abandoned buildings, deserted homes and empty parks. Since April, when Gov. Jan Brewer signed SB 1070 to punish illegal immigrants for the sins of the employers who hire them, estimates are that tens of thousands of illegal immigrants have left Arizona for a warmer climate in Utah, Colorado, Texas or New Mexico.

Last week, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton struck down four of the most grotesque and illogical parts of the law, including the requirement that local police attempt to determine the immigration status of individuals they suspect of being in the country illegally and language making it a crime to solicit work. They should have gone back to Mexico, but they'd already put down roots in Phoenix, where the husband could earn at least 10 times what he could make in Mexico. We talked about how some conservatives insist that illegal immigrants take jobs from U.S. workers:

"They're spoiled. They think it's easy to come to the United States legally, and they speak from ignorance."

You've heard how Arizona tried to empower local police to arrest gardeners and housekeepers to crack down on Mexican drug dealers. Baloney. That's just how the state's anti-immigrant efforts are packaged for public consumption. What are nativists supposed to do? Convince Arizonans that the nannies they give their babies to every day are dangerous, that the gardeners to whom they volunteer their security code are a threat. You need drug dealers in this dialogue. Who else are people going to be afraid of?

Not a hot dog vendor. Think about where that woman was from -- Sinaloa. That state is the capital of the Mexican drug trafficking industry. It's quite simple. If you're from Sinaloa and you sell drugs, you can live a luxurious life in Mexico. If you sell hot dogs, you work long, hot nights in the desert. Arizonans are ginning up fear of one to rid their state of the other.

LINK

Arizona: What a nice place to live.

such a good writer

Amputate Your Head · 08-04-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

It's SO easy to hate on Arizona if you don't live here, never have lived here, or have only seen it during times like TPF.

I live in a nice enough neighborhood but I'm surrounded by ethnicity. You can definitely tell the difference in lifestyles. Not saying that one is better than the other, but I was born a US citizen, to parents that are US citizens, and LIVING IN ARIZONA I can see the problems others can't.

I lived in Phoenix for 4 years. From North Phoenix to Central & Van Buren, and worked as far down as Broadway. I understand Phoenix perfectly.

brassmonkey · 08-04-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Fear walks the streets of Phoenix - Aug 2010

[LINKHOTNESS]

Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- It was an ethnic twist on an American classic, the kind of thing that some people consider appealing and others frightening. Pinto beans, diced tomatoes, salsa and jalapenos top a hot dog that's grilled to perfection. It's 10 o'clock on a Saturday night at ground zero in the immigration debate. The hot dog vendor, a woman from the Mexican state of Sinaloa, would normally be doing a brisk business. Her cart is across the street from a popular Latino dance club that used to be frequented by Mexican-Americans but is now normally crammed with Mexican immigrants.

No mas.

"The city feels abandoned," the woman tells me in Spanish. "Everyone has left."

It sure looks that way during a drive though the city's predominantly Latino west side, with its abandoned buildings, deserted homes and empty parks. Since April, when Gov. Jan Brewer signed SB 1070 to punish illegal immigrants for the sins of the employers who hire them, estimates are that tens of thousands of illegal immigrants have left Arizona for a warmer climate in Utah, Colorado, Texas or New Mexico.

Last week, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton struck down four of the most grotesque and illogical parts of the law, including the requirement that local police attempt to determine the immigration status of individuals they suspect of being in the country illegally and language making it a crime to solicit work. They should have gone back to Mexico, but they'd already put down roots in Phoenix, where the husband could earn at least 10 times what he could make in Mexico. We talked about how some conservatives insist that illegal immigrants take jobs from U.S. workers:

"They're spoiled. They think it's easy to come to the United States legally, and they speak from ignorance."

You've heard how Arizona tried to empower local police to arrest gardeners and housekeepers to crack down on Mexican drug dealers. Baloney. That's just how the state's anti-immigrant efforts are packaged for public consumption. What are nativists supposed to do? Convince Arizonans that the nannies they give their babies to every day are dangerous, that the gardeners to whom they volunteer their security code are a threat. You need drug dealers in this dialogue. Who else are people going to be afraid of?

Not a hot dog vendor. Think about where that woman was from -- Sinaloa. That state is the capital of the Mexican drug trafficking industry. It's quite simple. If you're from Sinaloa and you sell drugs, you can live a luxurious life in Mexico. If you sell hot dogs, you work long, hot nights in the desert. Arizonans are ginning up fear of one to rid their state of the other.

LINK

Arizona: What a nice place to live.

shut the fuck up!

j/k

dude when dmv and other stuff start shutting down cause there isnt any money dont cry like a bitch.

Ive seen the toll illegals have put on the system back in the 90's packed tax places getting tax returns. if they had a soul its gone!

Nikki_Licks · 08-04-2010, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

It's SO easy to hate on Arizona if you don't live here, never have lived here, or have only seen it during times like TPF.

I live in a nice enough neighborhood but I'm surrounded by ethnicity. You can definitely tell the difference in lifestyles. Not saying that one is better than the other, but I was born a US citizen, to parents that are US citizens, and LIVING IN ARIZONA I can see the problems others can't.

Vendzilla · 08-04-2010, 09:31 AM

Wow, do something illegal and go to jail, this must be some kind of new idea?

tranza · 08-04-2010, 09:45 AM

You are all immigrants in the US. It amazes me how some americans simply ignore their heritage.

That law is just plain dumb.

Amputate Your Head · 08-04-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

You are all immigrants in the US. It amazes me how some americans simply ignore their heritage.

That law is just plain dumb.

The "illegal immigration issue" is just a tool to keep the population divided and fighting amongst themselves. It keeps the attention off real problems. Wanna keep a moron distracted? Dangle something shiny in front of him (an iPhone will do).... or make up a "problem".

BlackCrayon · 08-04-2010, 09:48 AM

it would be hilarious to see the local economy crumble because all of the illegals have left.

Agent 488 · 08-04-2010, 09:49 AM

those hot dogs sounds awesome.

iseeyou · 08-04-2010, 09:59 AM

woj · 08-04-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

The "illegal immigration issue" is just a tool to keep the population divided and fighting amongst themselves. It keeps the attention off real problems. Wanna keep a moron distracted? Dangle something shiny in front of him (an iPhone will do).... or make up a "problem".

Yup, they are great scapegoats:
high unemployment? it's those illegals taking your jobs!
high crime rate? it's all because of those illegals again!
state budget deficits? yup, once again it's those illegals draining the funds!

D Ghost · 08-04-2010, 10:05 AM

I love how people think its cool for illegal immigrants to be here, unregistered and not pay taxes.

So you are ok with a bunch of illegal people here that don't contribute to the things they use, like the citizens do?

Agent 488 · 08-04-2010, 10:07 AM

americans are notoriously ahistorical but it wouldn't hurt to read about the history of nativism and why it appealed at certain times.

D Ghost · 08-04-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

The "illegal immigration issue" is just a tool to keep the population divided and fighting amongst themselves. It keeps the attention off real problems. Wanna keep a moron distracted? Dangle something shiny in front of him (an iPhone will do).... or make up a "problem".

Yup. World Cup. NFL. NBA. MLB. NHL. The gladiators of our time.

I agree. While I don't agree with illegal immigration. They are focusing way to much attention on it. Enough illegals get deported each year anyway.

woj · 08-04-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

I love how people think its cool for illegal immigrants to be here, unregistered and not pay taxes.

So you are ok with a bunch of illegal people here that don't contribute to the things they use, like the citizens do?

most have low wage jobs, they wouldn't pay taxes anyway, if they were legal they would probably be eligible for more government handouts...

brassmonkey · 08-04-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

it would be hilarious to see the local economy crumble because all of the illegals have left.

that's funny! like people don't work and illegals are the center of the universe working a minimum wage job!!!

Nikki_Licks · 08-04-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

You are all immigrants in the US. It amazes me how some americans simply ignore their heritage.

That law is just plain dumb.

Yes, we are all immigrants of immigrants that came to America legally, there is a difference.....

Amputate Your Head · 08-04-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

most have low wage jobs, they wouldn't pay taxes anyway, if they were legal they would probably be eligible for more government handouts...

Indeed, make them legal and the first thing a lot of them will do is line up for some government cheese.

Jon Oso · 08-04-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I lived in Phoenix for 4 years. From North Phoenix to Central & Van Buren, and worked as far down as Broadway. I understand Phoenix perfectly.

Well then I'll just be over here shutting the fuck up then.

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Originally Posted by tranza

You are all immigrants in the US. It amazes me how some americans simply ignore their heritage.

That law is just plain dumb.

It has NOTHING to do with immigration and EVERYTHING to do with ILLEGAL immigration.

I don't think anybody cares that people are coming into America to make a better life for themselves.

It's HOW they do it that matters.

iseeyou · 08-04-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Yes, we are all immigrants of immigrants that came to America legally, there is a difference.....

Unless your ancestors were slaves, captured in Africa and forced to work in the United States.

Oh, my bad. That was legal so it was all ok. There is a difference between legal slavery and illegal slavery. Legal slavery = ok. illegal slavery = wrong.

Amputate Your Head · 08-04-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by iseeyou

Unless your ancestors were slaves, captured in Africa and forced to work in the United States.

Oh, my bad. That was legal so it was all ok. There is a difference between legal slavery and illegal slavery. Legal slavery = ok. illegal slavery = wrong.

jesus

Nikki_Licks · 08-04-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by iseeyou

Unless your ancestors were slaves, captured in Africa and forced to work in the United States.

Oh, my bad. That was legal so it was all ok. There is a difference between legal slavery and illegal slavery. Legal slavery = ok. illegal slavery = wrong.

What ever you say.....

Vendzilla · 08-04-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

You are all immigrants in the US. It amazes me how some americans simply ignore their heritage.

That law is just plain dumb.

I don't ignore my heritage, get off my land pale face

TheSenator · 08-04-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

The "illegal immigration issue" is just a tool to keep the population divided and fighting amongst themselves. It keeps the attention off real problems. Wanna keep a moron distracted? Dangle something shiny in front of him (an iPhone will do).... or make up a "problem".

Thats 101 Public Relations tactics used by major corporations(e.g. news outlets) who have an agenda. Distract the public from the real problems in the U.S.

iseeyou · 08-04-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

What ever you say.....

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt

Nikki_Licks · 08-04-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by iseeyou

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt

Says the idiot......

ottopottomouse · 08-04-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Yes, we are all immigrants of immigrants that came to America legally, there is a difference.....

At what point did America go from anybody can escape from Europe to a wonderful new land to being full and needing to restrict who came afterwards?

Vendzilla · 08-04-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

At what point did America go from anybody can escape from Europe to a wonderful new land to being full and needing to restrict who came afterwards?

right around 1875, why?

Nikki_Licks · 08-04-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

At what point did America go from anybody can escape from Europe to a wonderful new land to being full and needing to restrict who came afterwards?

Never. Anyone can come here legally.....try again.

ottopottomouse · 08-04-2010, 11:43 AM

Wasn't a dig I was just wondering if there was a definite cutoff point for when you could just get on a boat and get off the other end unrestricted.

Nikki_Licks · 08-04-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Wasn't a dig I was just wondering if there was a definite cutoff point for when you could just get on a boat and get off the other end unrestricted.

Didn't think it was ;)

I have no idea when..........

L-Pink · 08-04-2010, 11:56 AM

"punish illegal immigrants for the sins of the employers who hire them"

Once again key word is "illegal"

.

HighEnergy · 08-04-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Wasn't a dig I was just wondering if there was a definite cutoff point for when you could just get on a boat and get off the other end unrestricted.

I think it started with the Burlingame Treaty.
wiki ref: Burlingame Treaty

rogueteens · 08-04-2010, 12:02 PM

I'm not american or Mexican but i really dont understand all the fuss over this law. If a copper suspects a person is an illegal immigrant then surely its the poicemans job to determine this? Whats next? letting muggers go free from investigation in case you accidentally inerview an innocent man?

I think there is a big clue in the label illegal immigrant.

Jon Oso · 08-04-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I lived in Phoenix for 4 years. From North Phoenix to Central & Van Buren, and worked as far down as Broadway. I understand Phoenix perfectly.

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

I'm not american or Mexican but i really dont understand all the fuss over this law. If a copper suspects a person is an illegal immigrant then surely its the poicemans job to determine this? Whats next? letting muggers go free from investigation in case you accidentally inerview an innocent man?

I think there is a big clue in the label illegal immigrant.

Yeah but everyone has rights in America. Even people who aren't legally supposed to be there in the first place, which is the fucked up part.

Border patrol doesn't treat them badly, they give them medical attention, water and food if necessary, they don't put them in jail when they catch them crossing to our side of the border, they just send them back to Mexico.

It's almost to the point where people are getting sued for EVERYTHING just because someone gets offended by it. Hell the high school I went to was run by the students because the parents were so lawsuit happy. It's sad what has become of this country.

CDSmith · 08-04-2010, 12:32 PM

Some people act like an entire country should just look the other way while thousands from another country enter illegally, with no border checks, no background checks, nothing. Just look the other way, leave them alone, they're not bothering anyone. I'm sure they're all perfectly nice people with only the best intentions, all of them. So what if they cut holes in fences or burrow under them instead of coming here through customs like the rest of us. Economic fallout? Pfffft, who cares.

Amazing. Such ignorance astounds me.

Amputate Your Head · 08-04-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Some people act like an entire country should just look the other way while thousands from another country enter illegally, with no border checks, no background checks, nothing. Just look the other way, leave them alone, they're not bothering anyone. I'm sure they're all perfectly nice people with only the best intentions, all of them. So what if they cut holes in fences or burrow under them instead of coming here through customs like the rest of us. Economic fallout? Pfffft, who cares.

Amazing. Such ignorance astounds me.

Then why not focus on the gangs? They aren't contributing jack to anyone but themselves, yet we allow gang nonsense to go on every day. I'll tell you why. Because people don't give a fuck. The AZ "law" just gives racists & rednecks a "legal" way to hate on wetbacks. If anyone really gave a shit, they should take a look in their own backyard first.

Nikki_Licks · 08-04-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Then why not focus on the gangs? They aren't contributing jack to anyone but themselves, yet we allow gang nonsense to go on every day. I'll tell you why. Because people don't give a fuck. The AZ "law" just gives racists & rednecks a "legal" way to hate on wetbacks. If anyone really gave a shit, they should take a look in their own backyard first.

Actually, Joe Arpaio is after gangs too, as are the PHX police.

Amputate Your Head · 08-04-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Actually, Joe Arpaio is after gangs too, as well as the PHX police.

Yeah, his pink underwear is a real deterrent.

Jon Oso · 08-04-2010, 01:30 PM

http://www.hulu.com/watch/168066/bor...s-last-defense

Nikki_Licks · 08-04-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Yeah, his pink underwear is a real deterrent.

Obviously you are not up to date, but then again, you only lived here for a few years....I am sure things have changed since your last time here.

uvort · 08-04-2010, 01:37 PM

Now they just need to pass the same laws in all of the states that the illegals are fleeing to.

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Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Fear walks the streets of Phoenix Fear walks the streets of Phoenix - Aug 2010 [LINKHOTNESS] Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- It was an ethnic twist on an American classic, the kind of thing that some people consider appealing and others frightening. Pinto beans, diced tomatoes, salsa and jalapenos top a hot dog that's grilled to perfection. It's 10 o'clock on a Saturday night at ground zero in the immigration debate. The hot dog vendor, a woman from the Mexican state of Sinaloa, would normally be doing a brisk business. Her cart is across the street from a popular Latino dance club that used to be frequented by Mexican-Americans but is now normally crammed with Mexican immigrants. No mas. "The city feels abandoned," the woman tells me in Spanish. "Everyone has left." It sure looks that way during a drive though the city's predominantly Latino west side, with its abandoned buildings, deserted homes and empty parks. Since April, when Gov. Jan Brewer signed SB 1070 to punish illegal immigrants for the sins of the employers who hire them, estimates are that tens of thousands of illegal immigrants have left Arizona for a warmer climate in Utah, Colorado, Texas or New Mexico. Last week, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton struck down four of the most grotesque and illogical parts of the law, including the requirement that local police attempt to determine the immigration status of individuals they suspect of being in the country illegally and language making it a crime to solicit work. They should have gone back to Mexico, but they'd already put down roots in Phoenix, where the husband could earn at least 10 times what he could make in Mexico. We talked about how some conservatives insist that illegal immigrants take jobs from U.S. workers: "They're spoiled. They think it's easy to come to the United States legally, and they speak from ignorance." You've heard how Arizona tried to empower local police to arrest gardeners and housekeepers to crack down on Mexican drug dealers. Baloney. That's just how the state's anti-immigrant efforts are packaged for public consumption. What are nativists supposed to do? Convince Arizonans that the nannies they give their babies to every day are dangerous, that the gardeners to whom they volunteer their security code are a threat. You need drug dealers in this dialogue. Who else are people going to be afraid of? Not a hot dog vendor. Think about where that woman was from -- Sinaloa. That state is the capital of the Mexican drug trafficking industry. It's quite simple. If you're from Sinaloa and you sell drugs, you can live a luxurious life in Mexico. If you sell hot dogs, you work long, hot nights in the desert. Arizonans are ginning up *fear of one to rid their state of the other.* LINK Arizona: What a nice place to live. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

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Jon Oso Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cardboard Box Posts: 2,241	It's SO easy to hate on Arizona if you don't live here, never have lived here, or have only seen it during times like TPF. I live in a nice enough neighborhood but I'm surrounded by ethnicity. You can definitely tell the difference in lifestyles. Not saying that one is better than the other, but I was born a US citizen, to parents that are US citizens, and LIVING IN ARIZONA I can see the problems others can't. __________________ icq 416133583 My Blog Clips4Sale Store

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	Wow, do something illegal and go to jail, this must be some kind of new idea? __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	You are all immigrants in the US. It amazes me how some americans simply ignore their heritage. That law is just plain dumb. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

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HighEnergy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 806	"Fear walks the streets of Phoenix" - That's not even remotely true. It's true illegals walk the streets in fear but not the general populous.

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BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	it would be hilarious to see the local economy crumble because all of the illegals have left. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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D Ghost null Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,820	I love how people think its cool for illegal immigrants to be here, unregistered and not pay taxes. So you are ok with a bunch of illegal people here that don't contribute to the things they use, like the citizens do?

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	americans are notoriously ahistorical but it wouldn't hurt to read about the history of nativism and why it appealed at certain times.

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ottopottomouse She is ugly, bad luck. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,177	Wasn't a dig I was just wondering if there was a definite cutoff point for when you could just get on a boat and get off the other end unrestricted. __________________ ↑ see post ↑ 13101

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	"punish illegal immigrants for the sins of the employers who hire them" Once again key word is "illegal" .

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rogueteens So fucking bland Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England Posts: 8,005	I'm not american or Mexican but i really dont understand all the fuss over this law. If a copper suspects a person is an illegal immigrant then surely its the poicemans job to determine this? Whats next? letting muggers go free from investigation in case you accidentally inerview an innocent man? I think there is a big clue in the label illegal immigrant. __________________ Free traffic and backlinks from one of the fastest growing adult pinsites on the net - SAUCY PICTURES! Easily my best performing webcam sponsor - CLICK HERE!!

08-04-2010, 12:32 PM	#44
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Some people act like an entire country should just look the other way while thousands from another country enter illegally, with no border checks, no background checks, nothing. Just look the other way, leave them alone, they're not bothering anyone. I'm sure they're all perfectly nice people with only the best intentions, all of them. So what if they cut holes in fences or burrow under them instead of coming here through customs like the rest of us. Economic fallout? Pfffft, who cares. Amazing. Such ignorance astounds me. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

08-04-2010, 01:30 PM	#48
Jon Oso Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cardboard Box Posts: 2,241	http://www.hulu.com/watch/168066/bor...s-last-defense __________________ icq 416133583 My Blog Clips4Sale Store

08-04-2010, 01:37 PM	#50
uvort Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Metalcash.com Posts: 3,580	Now they just need to pass the same laws in all of the states that the illegals are fleeing to. __________________ See Sig. 199907143