Originally Posted by uvort

Now they just need to pass the same laws in all of the states that the illegals are fleeing to.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Actually, Joe Arpaio is after gangs too, as are the PHX police.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

There are 20 states that are adapting a law similar to ours. I think the Feds will have no choice but to enforce the laws of this country....finally.

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Really? When's the last time he held a press conference announcing an investigation and bust of street gangs?

Oh...right...never.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Or sue them all just like AZ. Precedent has already been set now. Great use of our tax money.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Precedent has been set? I thought things were just on hold?
Similar law is already in effect in Prince William Virginia and after 3 years, That I would call a precedent

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Really? When's the last time he held a press conference announcing an investigation and bust of street gangs?

Oh...right...never.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Precedent has been set? I thought things were just on hold?
Similar law is already in effect in Prince William Virginia and after 3 years, That I would call a precedent

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

"On hold" maybe in the mind of the AZ gov, but what are they gonna do? Appeal to the 9th Circuit up here? They aren't going to win there. I'd say it's pretty well wrapped up.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Fear walks the streets of Phoenix - Aug 2010


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Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- It was an ethnic twist on an American classic, the kind of thing that some people consider appealing and others frightening. Pinto beans, diced tomatoes, salsa and jalapenos top a hot dog that's grilled to perfection. It's 10 o'clock on a Saturday night at ground zero in the immigration debate. The hot dog vendor, a woman from the Mexican state of Sinaloa, would normally be doing a brisk business. Her cart is across the street from a popular Latino dance club that used to be frequented by Mexican-Americans but is now normally crammed with Mexican immigrants.

No mas.

"The city feels abandoned," the woman tells me in Spanish. "Everyone has left."

It sure looks that way during a drive though the city's predominantly Latino west side, with its abandoned buildings, deserted homes and empty parks. Since April, when Gov. Jan Brewer signed SB 1070 to punish illegal immigrants for the sins of the employers who hire them, estimates are that tens of thousands of illegal immigrants have left Arizona for a warmer climate in Utah, Colorado, Texas or New Mexico.

Last week, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton struck down four of the most grotesque and illogical parts of the law, including the requirement that local police attempt to determine the immigration status of individuals they suspect of being in the country illegally and language making it a crime to solicit work. They should have gone back to Mexico, but they'd already put down roots in Phoenix, where the husband could earn at least 10 times what he could make in Mexico. We talked about how some conservatives insist that illegal immigrants take jobs from U.S. workers:

"They're spoiled. They think it's easy to come to the United States legally, and they speak from ignorance."

You've heard how Arizona tried to empower local police to arrest gardeners and housekeepers to crack down on Mexican drug dealers. Baloney. That's just how the state's anti-immigrant efforts are packaged for public consumption. What are nativists supposed to do? Convince Arizonans that the nannies they give their babies to every day are dangerous, that the gardeners to whom they volunteer their security code are a threat. You need drug dealers in this dialogue. Who else are people going to be afraid of?

Not a hot dog vendor. Think about where that woman was from -- Sinaloa. That state is the capital of the Mexican drug trafficking industry. It's quite simple. If you're from Sinaloa and you sell drugs, you can live a luxurious life in Mexico. If you sell hot dogs, you work long, hot nights in the desert. Arizonans are ginning up fear of one to rid their state of the other.

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Arizona: What a nice place to live.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Actually, Joe Arpaio is after gangs too, as are the PHX police.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

they target black and hispanic gangs the ones in sunnyslope(skinheads) they let run free. gangs are very quiet not the 90's was wild wild west drive-byes daily.

Originally Posted by tranza

You are all immigrants in the US. It amazes me how some americans simply ignore their heritage.

That law is just plain dumb.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

My friends live on the west side and you can always hear gun shots going off all hours of the night

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

He goes after people with warrants too for child support, DUI, other criminal stuff.

He was even featured on a reality show where they'd trick people into coming down into a sting operation, then bust them.

It was funny, but like the show "Cops" it was real people getting arrested, for real.

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

You ever notice they always seem to have their immigrations stings at businesses...where Mexicans are WORKING.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

When I worked private security there, I was shot at many times. The little guard shack that was there was full of bullet holes. They came from across the street, where legal AZ residents lived. Different post, white guys (legal residents) were constantly coming home drunk, beating up their wives & girlfriends, causing trouble of all sorts.... never once had a problem with an illegal or even a hispanic at all. It was always the fucking white dudes.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Yeah, where employers are hiring illegal immigrants, sounds like a good plan to me....get two birds with one stop ;)

Originally Posted by sexdatesj

I am glad we have this law!

Originally Posted by sexdatesj

Nope, but its all the same either way. I am sick of the ' news ' , they are making
this look and sound worse then it really is.

Originally Posted by HighEnergy

All things considered SB1070 has been pretty effective so far.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Oh? How many business owners have been arrested?

Originally Posted by NetHorse

It's the news and the liberal faggots who love to pull the race card.





hahaha. Oh noes, the illegal criminals who can't speak English, don't pay taxes, reap trillions in benefits that tax paying citizens pay for, traffic children as sex slaves, run drugs and drive without licenses and/or insurance now have to worry about the law.

Oh, it's not about the law or the fact that they're undocumented criminals, I forgot, "it's racism". The goofy liberals never cease to amaze me.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

1. Trillions? Really? I think you are confusing illegal aliens with the US Government & Wall Street.

Originally Posted by NetHorse

Typical pot smoking liberal response. Because the U.S. Government and Wall street spend it, the enormous strain incurred by illegals is okay.

Smoke some more weed and find some more obscure idiotic articles to post on GFY. A couple more and your day will be complete.

Checkout this counter
http://www.immigrationcounters.com/

If you don't think illegals, combined with their children won't cost this country TRILLIONS you need to keep hitting that pipe.



No, they didn't. They were running around freely with little to no consequences. If they got deported they would be back in a week. This new law was designed to allow local law enforcement to actually DETAIN them for breaking the law. Why is it you think all the illegals are packing up and leaving? Because it would be totally ineffective?

It's not the legal immigrants who give a shit. Why? Maybe because they speak English, they have drivers licenses and they likely would never be asked to prove their status in this country. It's the illegal CRIMINALS who would be most effected by this law that are fleeing.

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

So he goes after the low hanging fruit to get on tv?

Personally I'd rather see him arresting deadbeat dads than Mexicans.

You ever notice they always seem to have their immigrations stings at businesses...where Mexicans are WORKING.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

As soon as they set foot on Mexican soil, there is nothing to stop them from coming right back to AZ. The "law" is ineffective and has been deemed unconstitutional by a judge.

How's that for a "counter"?

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Like Sheriff Joe stated, regardless of the judge's decision, there are many other laws they can get them on that were not part of the the new law and he will continue doing his job.

So he will still continue to enforce Federal law, which is what he has been doing for years.

"Hows that for enforcing the law"?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Maybe he should focus on enforcing the things that are within his jurisdiction & authority and stop trying to be SuperCop.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Are you kidding me, do you even know what his jurisdiction area? or even what his authority is....or are you just blowing hot air for the sake of it?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Well, I know Sheriffs are elected.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

And the people keep re electing him, so the majority of the people must like what he is doing. Don't know what to tell ya

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

As soon as they set foot on Mexican soil, there is nothing to stop them from coming right back to AZ. The "law" is ineffective and has been deemed unconstitutional by a judge.

How's that for a "counter"?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Maybe he should focus on enforcing the things that are within his jurisdiction & authority and stop trying to be SuperCop.

Originally Posted by NetHorse

Yes, but at least they can be detained and charged with a crime. It clearly isn't ineffective if they're fleeing.



He's not playing super cop, he's trying to do his job, (stop criminals, which in-case you forgot, is what illegals are).

It's pretty sad when 50 illegal immigrants who can't speak English with absolutely no ID pollute the side of the road looking for day jobs can't be asked about their immigration status.

Look at Mexico's immigration laws, 10X worse than what SB 1070 was proposing.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I'm not interested in Mexico's immigration laws. They do not apply to me or this topic. And it's also pretty sad when a white dad and his kid chuck McDonald's trash out their window on I-5 (I-10, whatever... you know what I mean) at 90 mph. Why doesn't SuperCop go after them?

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

What is even worse is watching a Mexican family packed in their car in a shopping center parking lot and the filthy bitch tosses her infants diaper on the pavement.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Or the illegal immigrants standing on street corners looking for work that leave all their shit there at the end of the day.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Or the neighborhoods that have gone to shit because these illegal immigrants live like fucking pigs.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

I could go on and on, but I think you get the point ;)

I think this works both ways, eh?

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

My friends live on the west side and you can always hear gun shots going off all hours of the night

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Or the white trash permanently at Walmarts across the country, chucking their shit into the lot.

always out numbered by the illegals


Or the white citizens hanging out on the corner by the liquor store, broke and begging for money, leaving their shit all over the sidewalks. Or the black citizens hanging out, committing general acts of thuggery, leaving their shit all over the sidewalks.

always out numbered by the illegals


Or the white citizens that did the same thing to their "upscale" suburban neighborhoods because they don't give a fuck.

always out numbered by the illegals


Indeed.

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

You really are reaching, aren't you, And you seem to have some sort of white issue going on and now you are on the blacks.

That's OK, because no matter how much you dislike whites or blacks and love your illegal buddies, your illegal buddies will be be gone from our state.

On another note, if you love them being here so much(illegally), please feel free to write your buddy in the white house and volunteer to adopt a dozen or so families and agree to pay their way, it will be less of a burden on our state......

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

There's plenty of them here already. They don't bother me or cause any problems that I've seen. The white/black issues are nation-wide and in every city. I think that far outweighs & outnumbers the illegal problem in Phoenix. Go to Oakland or East LA or Yonkers or South Chicago and tell me there isn't a "problem" here with our LEGAL citizens. But I suppose I am probably wrong again. There's no standing in the way of someone that has a hard on for wetbacks with "legal" backing from a racist sheriff and governor. Right?

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

...because our Sheriff has the balls that most law enforcement does to enforce "Federal laws" and a Governor that also has more balls than most, makes them a racist?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

And it's also pretty sad when a white dad and his kid chuck McDonald's trash out their window on I-5 (I-10, whatever... you know what I mean) at 90 mph. Why doesn't SuperCop go after them?

Originally Posted by NetHorse

Actually, they do. Are government officials of Mexico racist for enforcing their immigration laws? Wait, let me guess, shouldn't Mexico have more important things to worry about than illegal aliens? Isn't that your logic?



What is your malfunction? Seriously, all that pot has obliterated your brain. Go back and read your posts one day, Jesus.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

So then what was he enforcing other than his own (and governor's) anti-Mexican racist agenda?

Originally Posted by NetHorse

Yes, what an agenda. Targeting criminals is now racist. Funny how 20 other states are now considering the law, are they ALL racists too?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

It's obviously not federal law since the court yanked out all the unconstitutional stuff. So then what was he enforcing other than his own (and governor's) anti-Mexican racist agenda?

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Just like I thought, you haven't read squat, yet you are out here spouting off about racist this, white and black trash that.....I would say you sound pretty racist in your remarks

BTW, if you do a little reading you will find out this new law was written by Arizona state Sen. Russell Pearce which is also an attorney, and not by the governor or the sheriff.

Like I mentioned earlier, I have a feeling that this is going to go all the way to the Supreme Court and if we lose there, like our Governor said, we will then sue the Federal government for not enforcing the laws of this Country.
I personally think she should include a bill for all the monies illegals have cost this City in that lawsuit....

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Well, best of luck to her. She'll go down in history as a crackpot that wasted AZ's money chasing air. And I don't really care, I don't live there any more. AZ can be given back to Mexico. I go to Mexico far more than I go to Arizona. AZ can continue whining about illegals, while the rest of us move forward with other things.