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Old 07-30-2010, 10:04 AM   #1
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Do you think affiliate marketing is dead?

It's not.

The problem is not the business model, but the disproportionate number of programs relative to the number of affiliates out there.

Affiliate marketing is too efficient and powerful to go out of style, and the adult biz, too sexy for webmaster types to ignore it.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:06 AM   #2
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:07 AM   #3
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No, programs will always need affiliates.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:07 AM   #4
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I agree, it's all about the approach and effort put into it. If you come to the market with any cookie cutter site you're asking for problems.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:07 AM   #5
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Nah. You just have to be more creative, and target quality.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:08 AM   #6
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It's not dead, but it's not doing that well either.

It needs to change along with the sites we offer. The customers are turning away from buying. Until we reverse that trend both affiliates and sponsors will suffer.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:16 AM   #7
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No, programs will always need affiliates.
i think you got it wrong chief.

affiliates will always need programs.

programs don't need you.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:17 AM   #8
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of course, affiliates are the biggest problems, they demands high pps and they are sending you shitty traffic ... fuck them all, fuck me!
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:27 AM   #9
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Ask Mike South.......
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:31 AM   #10
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i think you got it wrong chief.

affiliates will always need programs.

programs don't need you.
there are only a a couple programs that have real traffic. the rest will always need the affiliate / program relationship.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:32 AM   #11
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How is .XXX coming? Can we get a cover story on how we can all kill it in December. I mean since there is no support in the industry except a very few scumbags that will fuck their mommas for 25 cent.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:32 AM   #12
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I think the days of people relying on affiliates are numbered... Programs with no internal traffic, affiliate reps, etc...

As for affiliates themselves, we are doing great.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:32 AM   #13
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Of course not.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:34 AM   #14
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Ofcourse not.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:38 AM   #15
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How is .XXX coming? Can we get a cover story on how we can all kill it in December. I mean since there is no support in the industry except a very few scumbags that will fuck their mommas for 25 cent.
Are you referring to this thread?
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/978028-mike-south-step-inside.html
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:43 AM   #16
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How is .XXX coming?
Ask Diane Duke:
http://www.xbiz.com/news/122164
http://www.xbiz.com/articles/121238
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:47 AM   #17
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Says the person that I think is part of selling out the adult industry to .xxx. You are truly a piece of work.

So, you want to tell us who is on the big secret board? Is it your friends and possibly some family members?
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:50 AM   #18
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:50 AM   #19
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Beings you have so many bros, why don't you get Mike South approved so he can ask questions over at your hideout?
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:25 PM   #20
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Is not dead for sure. I just think is good to diversify. That's what I did when I moved some of my marketing efforts to promote Gambling!
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:31 PM   #21
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No, people who are closing their programs are opportunists

crisis: let's close the program
no more crisis: let's create a new brand and let's start again.

The question was: how to make money? aka adapt or die :D
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:29 PM   #22
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We have seen a very noticeable upswing in our MPA3 affiliate program software sales this year from last. We were a bit surprised to see it as last year was a tad slow, so we do not see "all" these programs shutting doors as a sign of the times in terms of "affiliate marketing is dead". To the contrary.

That said, and I will not point to anyone specific out of the shut down programs, it seems that a good many of them have had other problems (banking, cross sells, "old fashioned sites/members areas, and so on) leading up to their demise. I also feel that the aggressive payout structure has a lot to do with the issues for many as well. Huge PPS will evidently lead to catastrophe if there is no way to pay for it on the backend (except for with aggressive cross sells).

There are more factors at play here but these are just some of my thoughts about this subject.

Innovation and smart and fair business will in the end pay off. There is still a LOT of affiliate business in our marketplace now and in the unforeseeable future.

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Old 07-30-2010, 01:31 PM   #23
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thanks bagdad bob...errrrrr .....oystein.
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:35 PM   #24
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thanks bagdad bob...errrrrr .....oystein.
I was expecting that!

But I am serious.
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