'Girls Gone Wild' Founder Sues Over 'Tell-All' Book - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

TheDoc · 07-26-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Incorrect. Non-disclosures can include all kinds of things, designed to protect much more than just trade secrets. Some prohibit the signee from making any mention whatsoever about the company or their role or even that they were an employee at all. I've seen some even include gag orders that prohibit the signee from speaking to others in casual conversation about the company or anything they did in the course of their work there. Others are simply necessary to prevent the signee from publishing anything about "it", whatever "it" is.

And if the person signed it, they agreed to it, and are legally bound to adhere to it for the life of the agreement. Some have a time limit included, others stipulate that they are in effect for life.

In other words they don't all come in one flavor. You'd have to read the actual wording of the ND in this case before stating with any certainty what it's about.

Hehe, not sure if I have ever signed a gag order ND agreement before... guess that's always possible. Most of the ones I have signed are all related to corp info. How things ran, setup, what I saw, money, etc. If they don't want me to talk about who I'm working with, it's part of the secret.

jimmy-3-way · 07-26-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

You have an easier time hoping the boarder illegally from Mexico and becoming a US citizen than getting any Hollywood union job. And a camera man job??? No fucking way!!

Getting into any Hollywood union alone is next to impossible. You need to seriously know the right people and get a lot of work experience, working for free on non-union jobs. And even that wont guarantee you work in Hollywood, let alone Union work.

For sure, my cousin is a union grip and it probably took him ten years to get from, "Hey I think I'll go to Hollywood and get in the movie biz." to the day he collected his first decent paycheck.

mountainmiester · 07-26-2010, 03:28 PM

would be interesting to see the NDA a they usually cover trade secrets and not your day to day activities.

bdjerk · 07-26-2010, 03:34 PM

ndas are mostly not enforceable. he will lose.

MasterBlow · 07-26-2010, 11:51 PM

This allows him to collect a piece of that pie without having to actually have his name officially attached to the project.

NinjaSteve · 07-27-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

he ran a site , ripped off alot of people , including myself. I think common sense says he exploited alot of women to make money , he exploited alot of webmasters and stole their money, if i were a betting man , my money would be on he probably exploited his employees
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/837647-ggwcash-fucking-money-post-owe-money.html

Now I understand why we're not being paid... he's busy suing people. Maybe if he wins he'll use that money to pay webmasters the money owed

Mr. Cool Ice · 07-27-2010, 03:49 AM

I know Joe personally and chose to distance myself from him. He's a real piece of work.

LA Crew · 07-27-2010, 08:39 AM

This is a situation where anyone who buys the book really needs to get a life...

sortie · 07-27-2010, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

You cant just go and apply for a job as a union camera man. Doesn't work like that.

You have an easier time hoping the boarder illegally from Mexico and becoming a US citizen than getting any Hollywood union job. And a camera man job??? No fucking way!!

Getting into any Hollywood union alone is next to impossible. You need to seriously know the right people and get a lot of work experience, working for free on non-union jobs. And even that wont guarantee you work in Hollywood, let alone Union work.

Lived in Hollywood for 7 years and worked in the movie industry doing specialty lighting and production, (high powered lasers) saw everything up close and personal. I worked Union jobs and non-union jobs, I have seen it all. Very cut throat and fast paced. Makes porn look easy and honest in comparison.

And thus giving the camera man a job was a big help in his ability to make money.
According to what you just said.

The point of that story is "How did giving the camera man a job help him out?".

I don't know about you, but if it's "next to impossible" to get work and somebody
gives me a chance at a job, then they helped me out as far as I'm concerned.

Like I said to begin with "don't expect anyone to be grateful."

And clearly that's the case because I can't get some people here to even understand
why anyone should be grateful. The responses I got are proving me right.

I'm grateful for every job I had where everything went perfect.
I'm grateful for every job I had but hated and quit.
I'm grateful for every job I had and got fired from.

I'm grateful for every job I ever had.

I'm grateful because I asked for all those jobs and got them.

Nobody put a gun to my head and said "work here or else".

SlammedMedia · 07-27-2010, 11:07 AM

that asshole owes me money.

JustDaveXxx · 07-27-2010, 02:01 PM

But you posted this and i answered that only:

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Originally Posted by sortie

So if a camera man "chooses" to follow around Joe Francis instead of union work then
that motherfucker needed some help.

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Originally Posted by sortie

And thus giving the camera man a job was a big help in his ability to make money.
According to what you just said.

The point of that story is "How did giving the camera man a job help him out?".

I don't know about you, but if it's "next to impossible" to get work and somebody
gives me a chance at a job, then they helped me out as far as I'm concerned.

Like I said to begin with "don't expect anyone to be grateful."

And clearly that's the case because I can't get some people here to even understand
why anyone should be grateful. The responses I got are proving me right.

I'm grateful for every job I had where everything went perfect.
I'm grateful for every job I had but hated and quit.
I'm grateful for every job I had and got fired from.

I'm grateful for every job I ever had.

I'm grateful because I asked for all those jobs and got them.

Nobody put a gun to my head and said "work here or else".

Not disagreeing with you there. Im grateful for all of my opportunities, but people look for me for what i can do for them, not necessarily because i asked them for a job. When i choose to work for one client i cant necessarily work for all the rest of the people that want me to work for them due to interest conflicts.

But i do agree that this camera man should have kept quiet and should have been more appreciative of his opportunity to work for GGW. I have had issues with a client who i felt wronged me, but i say nothing or if i do have something to say, i keep it positive and professional.

bdjerk · 07-27-2010, 02:02 PM

someone should capture that fucker again and buttfuck him.

Emma · 07-27-2010, 11:39 PM

Ryan was never a cameraman for GGW. He was the tour manager and frequented the bus as it traveled around the country. He was definitely Joe's right-hand man. Can't wait to hear what stories Simkin has to tell. Why is Joe suing? Is he scared for some reason?

JustDaveXxx · 07-28-2010, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma

Ryan was never a cameraman for GGW. He was the tour manager and frequented the bus as it traveled around the country. He was definitely Joe's right-hand man. Can't wait to hear what stories Simkin has to tell. Why is Joe suing? Is he scared for some reason?

This is a book i can see myself reading. This guy has accomplished so much in such a short time. And i hear over and over on what a dick he is. This combination will be a good read.

MasterBlow · 07-28-2010, 05:38 AM

Joe Francis doesn't believe he did anything wrong by making his money off underage and barely legal young drunk girls. On the contrary, he thinks it makes him SMART and that others are just jealous they didn't think of it first.

LA Crew · 07-28-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SlammedCash

that asshole owes me money.

He's not known for his kindness or goodness. Let him go for it.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-28-2010, 11:58 PM

Joe Francis is without a doubt the Undisputed Chump and Douche of the Decade...

By the time he gets out of jail, his pooper will likely have been packed so many times that his smartass grin will be permanently removed (despite all of his cosmetic surgery/facelifts), and he will prolly be unrecognizable upon his release.

Butt hey, he deserves it, and definitely earned it!!!

ADG

aubreythree · 07-29-2010, 12:13 AM

yeah, that's what he should get

Emma · 07-29-2010, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by aubreythree

yeah, that's what he should get

Joe Francis and Christina McLarty getting married this fall

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-29-2010, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma

Joe Francis and Christina McLarty getting married this fall

A match made in...

I mean, who wouldn't want to marry a convicted sex offender like Joe Francis?

Joe Francis is just a normal guy that has had sexual escapades with minors, dressed in women's underwear, and been sodomized:

I'm sure he'll make a great father, that is if he gets out of prison, and escapes Steve Wynn's retribution somehow...

ADG

CDSmith · 07-29-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Emma

Joe Francis and Christina McLarty getting married this fall

And divorced by the following summer.

Color me cynical. :D

Persius · 07-29-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LA_quince

This is a situation where anyone who buys the book really needs to get a life...

JFK · 07-29-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame

Actually it is 6 years AFTER he leaves the job, if you stay at a job for 12 years the gag order stands for that 12, and then another 6...

And no Joe is not in debt, he actually has an excellent financial person. He was listed as having over 100mm in assets when he was released from jail. He is one guy who doesn't spend his money on tons of houses and dumb shit, he has like 2 houses and a jet and some cars the rest is invested and in assets.

So then, whats this thing about him owing Steve Wynn ??

Emma · 07-30-2010, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

So then, whats this thing about him owing Steve Wynn ??

He owing more than one Las Vegas casino money!

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MasterBlow Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 2,059	Joe Francis doesn't believe he did anything wrong by making his money off underage and barely legal young drunk girls. On the contrary, he thinks it makes him SMART and that others are just jealous they didn't think of it first. __________________

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