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  • Far-L
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2002
    • 6065

    #631
    I have used this one before and will use it again. There is a way to make money still on porn even in the world of free porn. Robbie should know better than anyone that personality, interaction, quality of service is something that a premium can be charged for successfully. We do it and I bet he is able to do it with Claudia Marie.

    You can watch shows free on tv now so why pay for HBO or any other premium channel? Better service? Less commercials? I would much rather pay to see something I liked uncut and complete than catch it a year later and heavily edited so I am willing to pay for premium cable. Simple.

    And forget the "full movies trump tgp" type argument. Does it matter to the person getting off on it? I could trim the ferret easily to those galleries that Lightspeed used to put up of Tawny back in the day. Did it matter that it wasn't "hardcore"? No. Did it matter that it wasn't a 30 minute movie? Not at all. Did it matter that I knew she was 18 for over five years? Ummm... yep... no on that too. So why didn't I convert to a paying customer? I had the impression when I got a trial that I had already seen the best stuff. And Lightspeed was far better than most in this regard. Think about all those crap sites that had only the same content that was up in the tgp/mgp galleries, but maybe a week behind in terms of release dates.

    We try to give a value way beyond what people see for free. To make the site more compelling than just more porn because that is the way to stand apart and give the customer a good feeling about paying. I know for a fact that this works. Why else would we be converting on GREAT BIG BAD FREE EVIL TUBES? If the traffic didn't covert at an acceptable level to make it worth the time and energy to post our content then we would not do it. Period.

    However, anyone that thinks free porn is going to end the fact that selling sex is still the world's oldest profession needs to consider a different field and make more room for the rest of us.
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    • marketsmart
      HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
      • Dec 2004
      • 20419

      #632
      Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
      So all porn sites will simply become loss leaders?

      Then sell what? Penis pills? Or are you giving away real pussy or hand jobs? Everything else can be found for free.

      It's not worth the expense to keep up with new content and all that goes with a pay site for it to become a loss leader. You're better off just stealing the content. *light bulb* Oh wait... now I get it, that's what everyone IS doing.


      a·dapt or die
      [uh-dapt awr dahy]

      1. to adjust oneself to different conditions, environment, etc.: to steal everyone else's content and profit from it until you are notified. at such time remove said content and replace it with new stolen content. claim you are doing nothing wrong because you are removing said content. repeat as many times as necessary, profiting along the way to the bank. if you choose not to operate in this profitable and totally legal manner, you will sooner or later cease to exist.


      actually, its more like fucking your sister.. sure you both know its wrong but it juss feels so good...

      then one day she gets pregnant and you end up with a retarded kid that has 12 fingers and toes, plays the banjo, eats applesauce out of a straw, and the way he looks at the dog just isnt right...

      but hey, why worry about that... just enjoy the pussy today and worry about the consequences later...



      .

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      • bdjerk
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2005
        • 219

        #633
        Originally posted by datatank
        Fabian/Nathan I have a very simple question.

        Where did you get $140 million dollars?
        bingo.
        bdjerk inc.

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        • will76
          Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
          • May 2003
          • 18037

          #634
          Originally posted by Robbie
          No, I was referring to real affiliate traffic from my former big affiliates who sent golden traffic directly from their niche free sites. Real surfers clicking a link because they have real interest.

          What I see are those same ones that were sending mega traffic a couple of years ago...now sending hardly any. And yet I see them promoting the shit out of us on their sites. And I talk to them personally and I see the traffic numbers for their sites in free fall just like the rest of us.

          I know what you're saying about buying some shit traffic and sending it. But that's not what I'm talking about at all.
          their traffic source (maybe TGPs) dried up. They were asleep at the wheel, I don't know, you really don't either unless you talk to each of them and ask them whats up. While there has been a drop in sales i believe across the board, some sites still have good affiliates sending traffic, some might not. Just because your bigger affiliates are now small doesn't mean that is happening to everyone else as bad as it was happening to you. My comments was to your " just show me 1 affiliate who can send more than thousand hits a day".
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          • DWB
            Registered User
            • Jul 2003
            • 31779

            #635
            Originally posted by marketsmart
            i am waiting for your movie to come out... i'd rather go see that than a movie about cc processing..

            who would you like to play you?

            .
            Ooooh, that's a hard one.

            If I had total control, it would be Nick Nolte. The story would be told when I'm an older guy, sitting in some third world prison telling my life story and everything that happened to lead me to that moment. I'd be telling it to some yellow prick that doesn't speak a word of English, or some limp dick Brit who was in tears and facing a drug charge, but I'm really just buying time waiting for the right moment so I can go for the guards gun and try to make a run for it and escape, all the while knowing this will probably be my last stand and will go down in a blaze of glory.

            Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
            I've met DWB, so my pick would be Howie Mandel:



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            Howie is looking damn handsome these days. He's too goofy though.

            Originally posted by marketsmart
            i would think DWB would be better served/played by someone like gary bussey....

            .
            A squirly, long haired, washed up Nick Nolte!

            Or... Robert Downey Jr and the movie was NOW and not told from when I am older. Robert would be good. Maybe even better than Nolte now that I think of it.

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            • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
              Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
              • Jul 2004
              • 38323

              #636
              Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
              Ooooh, that's a hard one.

              If I had total control, it would be Nick Nolte. The story would be told when I'm an older guy, sitting in some third world prison telling my life story and everything that happened to lead me to that moment. I'd be telling it to some yellow prick that doesn't speak a word of English, or some limp dick Brit who was in tears and facing a drug charge, but I'm really just buying time waiting for the right moment so I can go for the guards gun and try to make a run for it and escape, all the while knowing this will probably be my last stand and will go down in a blaze of glory.



              Howie is looking damn handsome these days. He's too goofy though.



              A squirly, long haired, washed up Nick Nolte!

              Or... Robert Downey Jr and the movie was NOW and not told from when I am older. Robert would be good. Maybe even better than Nolte now that I think of it.
              I've never seen Robert Downey Jr bald, so unless by throwing out Nick Nolte and Downey, you are saying you have grown hair on your dome again...

              Say it isn't so!!!



              Then again, there is Johnny Depp - he pulled off bald as Hunter S. Thompson (whom some of your adventures remind me of).



              Just make sure they include the tranny enema painter in your biopic...

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              • DWB
                Registered User
                • Jul 2003
                • 31779

                #637
                Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                I've never seen Robert Downey Jr bald, so unless by throwing out Nick Nolte and Downey, you are saying you have grown hair on your dome again...
                Ah ha, but you've never seen me with hair!


                Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                Then again, there is Johnny Depp - he pulled off bald as Hunter S. Thompson (whom some of your adventures remind me of).



                Just make sure they include the tranny enema painter in your biopic.

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                • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                  Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 38323

                  #638
                  [QUOTE=DirtyWhiteBoy;17367479]If I had total control, it would be Nick Nolte. The story would be told when I'm an older guy, sitting in some third world prison telling my life story and everything that happened to lead me to that moment.

                  I'd be telling it to some yellow prick that doesn't speak a word of English, or some limp dick Brit who was in tears and facing a drug charge, but I'm really just buying time waiting for the right moment so I can go for the guards gun and try to make a run for it and escape, all the while knowing this will probably be my last stand and will go down in a blaze of glory.
                  QUOTE]

                  If you escaped that would be even more cool - kind of like a poontang version of the Midnight Express:



                  Be sure to leave some stories for the sequel...

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                  • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                    Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 38323

                    #639
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                    • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                      Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 38323

                      #640
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                      • MrDeiz
                        • May 2008
                        • 9802

                        #641
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                        • DamianJ
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 15808

                          #642
                          Originally posted by Robbie
                          That's true. And unfortunately I'm in the PORN business.

                          My entire business model isn't designed to sell them "stuff"
                          It's designed to sell porn.

                          And I can't make this kind of money by selling them adult toys or dick pills. I need to sell them what they really want: porn.

                          So I guess I'm screwed.
                          Trent Reznor made 750k in 3 days selling his last album, after making it available on torrents.

                          What if you sold a monthly membership plus the following (some at HUGE prices obv):

                          MSN chats with CM
                          Personal and private email correspondance
                          A phone call
                          Private cam shows with CM
                          CM's panties
                          A lunch/dinner with CM
                          CM and you coming and performing songs in their house and then doing a live cam show from a fan's OWN HOUSE

                          I am just brainstorming using what other people who have their content downloaded as a starting point.
                          Last edited by DamianJ; 07-29-2010, 08:43 AM.

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                          • Robbie
                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 20960

                            #643
                            Originally posted by DamianJ
                            Trent Reznor made 750k in 3 days selling his last album, after making it available on torrents.

                            What if you sold:

                            MSN chats with CM
                            Personal and private email correspondance
                            A phone call
                            Private cam shows with CM
                            CM's panties
                            A lunch/dinner with CM
                            CM and you coming and performing songs in their house and then doing a live cam show from a fan's OWN HOUSE

                            I am just brainstorming using what other people who have their content downloaded as a starting point.
                            I'm not sure how much revenue any of that would bring. I am sure it wouldn't be even close to what I make selling memberships.

                            Using our exclusive content as a loss leader to sell lesser things that don't rebill would probably cause me to just shut it down and move to another business. It simply wouldn't pay the bills and/or make it worth the man hours I spend on it or the risks involved legally either.

                            I can tell you that if I thought for one second it would make equal or more money I would do it immediately.
                            -Robbie
                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                            • Agent 488
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 22511

                              #644
                              the artists that make money with free culture marketing do so because free culture enthusists make a point of purchasing the artists product to prove that you can make money giving things away for free.

                              experiments where artists have given their product away for free without being free culture propagandists have been abysmal.

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                              • JFK
                                FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 67373

                                #645
                                Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                Ooooh, that's a hard one.

                                If I had total control, it would be Nick Nolte. The story would be told when I'm an older guy, sitting in some third world prison telling my life story and everything that happened to lead me to that moment. I'd be telling it to some yellow prick that doesn't speak a word of English, or some limp dick Brit who was in tears and facing a drug charge, but I'm really just buying time waiting for the right moment so I can go for the guards gun and try to make a run for it and escape, all the while knowing this will probably be my last stand and will go down in a blaze of glory.
                                Great scenario

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