Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers

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  • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
    Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
    • Jul 2004
    • 38323

    #556
    Originally posted by Nathan
    ADG,

    One reason I am not answering your post is that you do not care about the answers anyway.

    If you would care, you would not ask questions I have answered previously, neither would you act like a 5 year old and post pictures or trying to redicule me. All you care about is stirring this up over and over again, even me answering these questions again would just make you post some stupid picture and then claim I am just lying anyway.

    The main reason I am not answering though is that you have not only threatened me, but you actually had the nerve to threaten my family.

    This is not a game ADG, this is business. If all you can do is threaten, post pics and make confusing remarks to try to make me look bad, then I do not care what you think of me or Manwin.

    I have invited you to Miami to talk, you declined that, I am not going to invite you again.

    This is my last post in this thread. If you would have just been a standup guy and not resorted to name calling and threats, I would have actually answered your questions again. But you have stepped clearly over any rational way of dealing with this so the subject is closed for me.
    Once again you are attempting to weasel out of my straightforward questions.

    You say I do not care about your answers to questions I have posed to you repeatedly, and which you have so far not answered, but indeed I do care, as do many others in the adult industry, since you claim to have acquired a company that is widely disdained (and believed to have caused much damage) in the adult industry, and yet you have asked everyone to trust you, without providing answers to even the simplest of questions, such as, who are the other partners/investors in your venture?

    To deflect your failure to answer these questions, you have falsely stated that I have somehow threatened you and your family, which is plain ridiculous, when I have stated just the opposite, that I do not wish to cause you or your family any legal problems or embarrassment.

    Plain and simple, I think you are a coward, or have something to hide, Nathan / Fabian Thylmann, if you once again refuse to answer my straightforward questions (anyone can see, none of my questions should appear threatening to either you or your family).

    So, for the record, here are the questions that I pose to you, and which you appear afraid to answer, even though they should not be construed in any way as a threat to you or your family (unless by answering them you feel somehow endangered - which could mean that you are hiding some illegal activity/associations):

    1) Name who your "partners" are in Manwin, since you claim to be a "Managing Partner".

    2) Who else is an investor in Manwin?

    3) What role/relationship, if any, do Stephane Manos or Q-u-i-s-s-a-m Youseff have with Manwin (remove the hypens in Mr Youseff's first name - he has apparently asked the GFY moderators to disallow the posting of his first name, for some mysterious reason; could this mean he has something to hide?).

    4) Does Virage Media Limited still exist? If not, when did it cease to exist, and why? Are the former Virage Media Ltd properties now part of Manwin?

    5) When did Manwin come into existence, and who are the partners/investors?

    6) When did Manwin acquire Mansef? In March or July of this year, or whatever date? From what I have heard, the purchase occurred soon after the US Federal Government and Pink Visual (Ventura Content) launched lawsuits against Mansef for money laundering/illegal bank activity and copyright violations.

    7) Is Bob Rice still a part of your Manwin operation? If not, when did he leave?

    8) What business relationship/association(s) have you, or any companies associated with you, (such as Virage Media, or HQtube and Xtube) had with Envisionext/Stan Fiskin? Was he ever an officer/employee with Virage Media?

    9) What business relationship, if any, do you have with Jain Shaileshkumar (aka Sam Jain) or Bjorn Daniel Sundin (aka Daniel)? Some people here seem to think there is a money connection somehow.

    10) Would you consider contributing some of Manwin's profits to an industry-wide anti-copyright/anti-piracy effort?

    There clearly are no threats to you or your family in the above questions.

    As anyone can see, you are simply making up a bogus excuse to refuse to respond to these straightforward questions, if you should provide no answers.

    Your failure to respond speaks volumes about your character and your company, and does not answer any of the legitimate questions that I and others have raised/asked about you or your company.

    As I have stated before, simply answer these questions, and I will ask you no more questions here. I give you my word.

    You claimed that you have answered my questions previously. If so, please show the post where you have answered completely, not in part, all of the above questions, or else answer them forthwith.

    It's time to come clean Nathan / Fabian Thylmann ...

    No threats here. If you want to be trusted in this industry, you must first prove yourself worthy of trust, by answering simple straightforward questions about the company you have acquired which has a negative past, instead of hiding behind false excuses.

    ADG
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    • Nathan
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 3108

      #557
      ADG, you are doing plenty of things you can really only be doing to try to harm me... there is absolutely no other reason to do so otherwise, thus, every single post of yours is a threat.

      Things included are btw:
      - posting questions I have answered multiple times already, just to make it seem as if I did not for people reading only parts of the thread
      - continuously claiming how you are so nice and not asking other questions you could ask which would harm my family in your opinion (this btw is a threat)
      - posting my full name on this board, although I really really do not care that you do, you obviously only do it because you think it pisses me off in some way

      This is also why I find it useless to answer your questions, since you will simply not let go anyway... but, that said, I will still answer them one more final time, but I am 99.99% sure that you will not care and will just go on since you will simply claim I am lying... I am also posting this for the other people in this thread who have been very friendly in asking questions compared to you...

      So we will see how much your word is worth...

      1) There are no other shareholders other than people that have very low %age of shares for incentive reasons in a big business. If you do not understand why I can not post confidential information like this, so be it, but I can not, its not my place to do so. Also, as I have stated before, we are talking max 1-2%.

      2) Nobody

      3) No role

      4) Nothing there changed currently.

      5) Manwin was started this year. The second part of the question I have answered in 1 and 2.

      6) Noone acquired Mansef, we acquired their assets. As we have stated in multiple locations in this thread and in press releases, 1st of March 2010. You are misinformed when the US Gov case against Mansef was started I think, and regarding Pink Visual, yes as you yourself know very well it was filed end of February 2010. If you think this shows that this is a fake transaction, then I suggest you wait until the court cases are concluded, since before that is the case, anything you think in this regard is simply based on misinformation or not enough knowledge of the situation.

      7) he never was a part of Manwin. He did work for me for a couple of months end of 2008, beginning 2009, to find more possible acquisitions simply because he has a lot of contacts in the industry.

      8) Stan was, but nolonger is. As I have said previously also btw and you simply chose to ignore this. Things change.

      9) I have had a business relationship with Sundin many many years ago until he ripped me off and now owes me money from a group of services we owned together with a 3rd person named Preston Garisson (sp?).

      10) We already do that. Well, it depends on what you call "industry-wide" I guess...
      "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
      - Charlie Munger

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      • Agent 488
        Registered User
        • Feb 2006
        • 22511

        #558
        see sig.

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        • will76
          Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
          • May 2003
          • 18037

          #559
          did you pay 140 million for Mansef ?
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          • erooup
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2010
            • 512

            #560
            Originally posted by Nathan

            4) Nothing there changed currently.
            Great way to not answer the question.

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            • Agent 488
              Registered User
              • Feb 2006
              • 22511

              #561
              they don't owe anyone any answers. 99% of programs will do business with them. i'm surprised they bothered responding to a couple old trolls trolling.

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              • fris
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Aug 2002
                • 55679

                #562
                Originally posted by Agent 488
                they don't owe anyone any answers. 99% of programs will do business with them. i'm surprised they bothered responding to a couple old trolls trolling.
                at the end of the day its all about money

                money > morals

                if mansef/manwin can make a buck by selling their sister on the street, they will do it.
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                • crazytrini85
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 817

                  #563
                  Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                  7) Is Bob Rice still a part of your Manwin operation? If not, when did he leave?
                  Bob gets around.

                  Of course everyone knows what he did before, but he then went to Incredible Dollars (biggest scam company ever) then went to _____________, then on to Solo Converts who is owned by the guy who was running Incredible Dollars and another guy who was running SOBV, and now he has ties with Manwin?

                  "Honest" Bob Rice may be a good guy and a hell of a bro, but he has made rounds with some of the industry's biggest scammers, card bangers and content thieves in the past few years and is still knee deep in the middle of them. Maybe Bob is the Keyzer Sosa you're all looking for.

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                  • bdjerk
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 219

                    #564
                    anyone know where i can get a good antivirus program?
                    was trying to get laid on iwantu.com and got this shit iwu.exe.
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                    • pornstar2fag
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 544

                      #565
                      i hear feds be at avn very good source

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                      • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                        Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 38323

                        #566
                        Originally posted by pornstar2fag
                        i hear feds be at avn very good source
                        At least Nathan / Fabian Thylmann will be easy to find if they wish to try and get some answers out of him before his return trip to Germany...or perhaps they will ask/tell him to extend his stay here in the USA.

                        ADG
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                        • Wizzo
                          2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                          • Nov 2000
                          • 15224

                          #567
                          Originally posted by pornstar2fag
                          i hear feds be at avn very good source
                          It's been a couple of years since that rumor has been around, It used to get started before every major show, so good to see things returning to normal...
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                          • crazytrini85
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 817

                            #568
                            Originally posted by pornstar2fag
                            i hear feds be at avn very good source
                            They serving a warrant or something, or they gonna try to sit in on an illegal secret cross sale meeting?

                            You guys have no idea how the law works.

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                            • Qbert
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 813

                              #569
                              Rumour or not I bet it's enough to make Nathan/Fabian a no show.

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                              • DamianJ
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 15808

                                #570
                                Fabian, hire someone with PR experience to handle your damage limitation and stop posting here.

                                You're doing more harm than good.

                                Damian

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