Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers

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  • will76
    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
    • May 2003
    • 18037

    #496
    Originally posted by Far-L
    Cut me a break. The only reason you feel threatened by me saying to prove you put your money where your mouth is because you actually haven't done anything other than bitch about stuff and you haven't actually done much to really do anything about this at all other than preach to the choir.

    I have already answered your question - I said I don't know and I don't believe your version of events based on hearsay and I showed you the Bing example to give one potential example of how to start with content.

    Now, calm down and try to remain professional. Just because I disagree with you is no need to get so piqued. If you stick to the topic maybe people will actually learn something - whether you or I are right or wrong. Reduce it to name calling and swearing and all you do is reduce this to idiotic childishness.
    I'll take the appearance of being a hot head over your "better than everyone" else attitude any day.

    You say I haven't done anything. Well doing nothing is better than doing business with the people who are the problem, which is what you are doing.

    I'm always calm i know my typing comes across as someone who is screaming at the screen and banging on the keyboard, but i'm probably one of the coolest non emotional people you would meet.
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    • bdjerk
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      • Jan 2005
      • 219

      #497
      what a fuckin trainwreck
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      • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
        Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
        • Jul 2004
        • 38323

        #498
        Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
        As much as I appreciate your kind offer Nathan/Fabian, I do not wish to in any way appear to be perceived as being bought off with an expenses-paid trip to the AVN show. I assure you that I can easily afford to travel there on my own funds, if I so wish to.

        How about instead, you respond here forthrightly, and 100% honestly, in public, to some questions which I and others have posed, such as:

        1) Who are your partners/investors in Manwin?

        2) What is your plan (besides hiding behind the ridiculous provisions of the DMCA safe harbor provisions, which hopefully will be changed soon) for ensuring that your Manwin company, and known/suspected associates/entities/properties (such as Brazzers, JuggCash, KeezMovies, PornHub, Xtube, ExtremeTube, Tube8, MovieBox, Sex In Your City, etc), quit screwing over the rest of the industry by seemingly engaging in allowing obvious non-copyright holders/employees to post long scenes (or any scenes for that matter) of videos which they have no copyright to on any of your sites?

        3) What role, if any, do Stephane Manos (Man) or hahahahahahaha (oops, forgot, for some reason O-u-i-s-s-a-m, without hyphens, appears as hahahahahahaha on GFY) Youseff (Sef) play in Manwin's current operations?

        4) Does Virage Media Limited still exist? If not, when did it cease to exist, and why? Are the former Virage Media Ltd properties now part of Manwin?

        5) When did Manwin come into existence, and who are the partners/investors?

        6) When did Manwin acquire Mansef? In March or July, or whatever date?

        7) Is Bob Rice still a part of your Manwin operation? If not, when did he leave?

        8) What business relationship/association(s) have you, or any companies associated with you, (such as Virage Media or HQtube and Xtube) had with Envisionext/Stan Fiskin?

        9) What business relationship, if any, do you have with Jain Shaileshkumar (aka Sam Jain) or Bjorn Daniel Sundin (aka Daniel)? Some people here seem to think there is a money connection somehow.

        10) Would you consider contributing some of Manwin's profits to an industry-wide anti-copyright/anti-piracy effort?

        I have other straightforward questions, but I will save them for now. If you can straightforwardly answer the questions above, I will refrain from posing any additional questions, since I do not wish to cause you or your family any personal embarrassment, nor possible legal issues.

        I assure you that I am not attempting in any way to destroy you or your reputation, as you maudlinly claim (I suspect, in some way to gain sympathy/pity).

        I'm simply asking questions which I perceive that you have repeatedly ducked, dodged, and otherwise parried from.

        None of the information I have posted is personal (even if you or anyone else chooses to take it personally).

        Most, if not all, of the info I have posted about, came from easily accessible public sources on the internet, such as LinkedIn, and Google searches of your name, your nicks, and your various company names, plus names of people associated (or said to possibly be associated) with you.

        I assure you that I have not hacked into anything that is private or otherwise secure information. That is outside of my nature/proclivity, and skill-set.

        If you wish to be perceived as a respectable member of the adult industry (and I know many already do respect you for some of your past achievements - some of which I respect as well), by answering forthrightly, the simple questions which I have posed here, and prove yourself to sincerely and aggressively stand against content/copyright piracy (not just for your own content, but for the entire industry), then you may be surprised to find a strong ally in me.

        Respectfully yours,

        ADG
        Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude


        It should be around 8am in Deutschland now. Rise and shine Mr. Manwin Managing Partner (is every partner at Manwin as "silent" as you are? Pardon the pun).

        You are not doing much of a job representing your company when you go on a forum and ask people to trust you, but then refuse to respond to simple questions posed to you.

        You indicated the obvious, that given their legal problems and perceptions within the adult industry, Mansef/Manwin needs to make changes and improve it's image within the industry, and change it's practices (one of which was lying).

        I'm giving you an opportunity right here to do that...

        Your forthright answers to the ten questions posed above would be greatly appreciated...

        ADG
        It's been over 24 hours since my last post in this thread, and Nathan / Fabian Thylmann has cowardly continued to duck my questions posted above.

        His silence speaks volumes.

        I guess he is too busy licking boots (and trying to cover his tracks):



        Too bad for Nathan / Fabian Thylmann, and his Manwin shadow biz, that he and his company/co-conspirators (the subjects of a US Federal and Civil Lawsuit for copyright violations), are already in the targets of the US DOJ/Canadian authorities/Interpol, that it's unlikely he will be able to worm his way out of this one, regardless of how much he bootlicks...



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        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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          • Jul 2004
          • 38323

          #499
          Originally posted by ProG
          Fabian were you involved with PornGraph? Just curious...
          What is/was PornGraph, and what could it possibly have to do with Nathan / Fabian Thylmann?

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          • will76
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            • May 2003
            • 18037

            #500
            Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
            What is/was PornGraph, and what could it possibly have to do with Nathan / Fabian Thylmann?

            ADG
            Fabian started with Nats right? Then I think the next question was, what was John's involvement with Porngraph? I don't remember the details posted here but there was a lot of accusations and speculation with porngraph and john.

            I can't talk about John though, if I do he will run to the mods to try to get me banned.

            Do your digging young jedi, you might find some good dirt on both of them.

            Here is a good start for you http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=275929
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            • woj
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              • Jul 2002
              • 47882

              #501
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              • bdjerk
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                • Jan 2005
                • 219

                #502
                almost worth the trip to florida to watch the festivities.
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                • magicmike
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 2384

                  #503
                  So is the reason laws on copyright / dmca takedown still exist because politicians enjoy their youtube and free porn as well?

                  Nothing is going to change until the law changes. So many jobs, and so much money is at stake that something will hopefully happen soon.
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                  • fris
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 55679

                    #504
                    Originally posted by Far-L
                    The difference here though Steve, to use your analogy, if you stole my car, which is a Model H, a Homegrown Cruiser with turbo power content and painted with our logos, and you drive it around until I get it back, you just did some solid advertising for us. I don't consider the content to be "trashed and crashed" because it went on the tube freeway. On the contrary, the more exposure, while it may have caused a dent or two, provided us with critical feedback to improve our design, generated tons of branding that elevated our organics, and created opportunities to find more distributors.

                    We tackled this problem from the beginning with carrot and stick. Work with us and get the carrot. Don't work with us and get the stick. People have been stealing our content since before most people here were even old enough to use a computer. We have been up against this problem since day one; now, instead of spending all our money on attorneys to fight it to a phyrric finish, we chose to try and work with people first. Most people I see just complaining, railing, and otherwise getting nowhere. We turned a negative into a positive, an enemy into an ally, and learned how to work with the situation. That doesn't make us evil. You of all people should get this.
                    doesnt change the fact it was stolen, even if it made you money, its called theft, so by your thoughts its ok if you steal something as long as you give it back when you find out.

                    So we can steal millions of dollars until we find it missing.

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                    • bdjerk
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                      • Jan 2005
                      • 219

                      #505
                      Far-L needs more acid.
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                      • DWB
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 31779

                        #506
                        It's amazing what we as an industry have grown accustomed to.

                        Fuck me, steal from me, do whatever you want to do, and then I will let is all slide because I will send you a notice and then you will remove it for a few weeks. Then do it all over again. And it's all good. lol

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                        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                          • Jul 2004
                          • 38323

                          #507
                          Originally posted by will76
                          Fabian started with Nats right? Then I think the next question was, what was John's involvement with Porngraph? I don't remember the details posted here but there was a lot of accusations and speculation with porngraph and john.

                          I can't talk about John though, if I do he will run to the mods to try to get me banned.

                          Do your digging young jedi, you might find some good dirt on both of them.

                          Here is a good start for you http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=275929
                          Interesting read - thanks for the link.

                          If I read correctly, I was surprised that John Albright never posted in that epic thread to defend himself or explain his position.

                          Fugitive Sam Jain et al are also known for their spyware exploits, and some here have suggested might possibly be in bed with Fabian Thylmann / Manwin now, who has suddenly also become quite reticent.

                          Not saying there is a connection, just noting a trend.

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                          • JFK
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                            • Jan 2002
                            • 67373

                            #508
                            Originally posted by bdjerk
                            almost worth the trip to florida to watch the festivities.
                            you really think, anything is going to happen ? ;)

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                            • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                              • Jul 2004
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                              #509
                              Originally posted by JFK
                              you really think, anything is going to happen ? ;)
                              Nathan /Fabian is going to be there, right?



                              I predict much BROmance, and that many drinks will be purchased...

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                              • JFK
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                                • Jan 2002
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                                #510
                                Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                Nathan /Fabian is going to be there, right?



                                I predict much BROmance, and that many drinks will be purchased...

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