Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers

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  • lazycash
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    • Aug 2002
    • 15214

    #436
    Originally posted by TDF
    "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

    Its crazy..."

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    • marketsmart
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      • Dec 2004
      • 20419

      #437
      Originally posted by TDF
      why is that guy wearing a fern on his head?

      cant the army afford real helmets anymore?





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      • MaDalton
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        • Feb 2004
        • 39861

        #438
        Originally posted by marketsmart
        why is that guy wearing a fern on his head?

        cant the army afford real helmets anymore?





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        reminds me of a gay ex-colleague who told me how all the other guys just grabbed some fern or grass to put on their helmets and he showed up with a nicely arranged flower bed.
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        • Grapesoda
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          • Jul 2003
          • 46238

          #439
          Originally posted by Far-L



          Quick question... how many here that are bitching about stolen content have actually paid for a trademark or actually copyright their content?
          atk does all that... I personally own very little content and NONE of it is hosted..
          Last edited by Grapesoda; 07-20-2010, 01:45 PM.

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          • Qbert
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            • Jun 2004
            • 813

            #440
            Originally posted by Far-L
            ...if we weren't making money on tube traffic we wouldn't put time/effort/cash into producing clips for them. If it cost us too much more than sending out an email to take down unauthorized clips then I would take a different more agressive stance to protect our marks...
            If making money matters to you more than the fact that stolen full length clips are responsible for driving the traffic that is makling you that money, then you'll do whatever you have to in order to justify it to yourself in your own mind.

            It may not be technically illegal, but it's ethically deplorable. It's dirty money. Spin it however you want, but it still boils down to making money from the use of stolen content.

            Sleep well.

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            • Klen
              • Aug 2006
              • 32235

              #441
              Is this thread turned into epic backfire?

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              • will76
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                • May 2003
                • 18037

                #442
                Originally posted by Far-L
                Quick question... how many here that are bitching about stolen content have actually paid for a trademark or actually copyright their content?

                How would that matter? If someone copyrighted their content, does that mean the tube sites wont steal it then?
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                • Loch
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                  • Feb 2002
                  • 7674

                  #443
                  Originally posted by Far-L
                  Quick question... how many here that are bitching about stolen content have actually paid for a trademark or actually copyright their content?
                  On North American producers my guess would be less then 5 that post on GFY.

                  Under US & Canadian law all European producers are automatically considered to be under the Copyright law/Protected.

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                  • Loch
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                    • Feb 2002
                    • 7674

                    #444
                    Originally posted by will76
                    How would that matter? If someone copyrighted their content, does that mean the tube sites wont steal it then?
                    No but if they have a copyright they actually stand to make some serious cash if suing, much like Pink Visual is doing.

                    To copyright your content costs almost nothing, most people are just too lazy to even look into it.

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                    • wargames
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                      • May 2003
                      • 10423

                      #445
                      Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                      Is this thread turned into epic backfire?
                      Nope 25 of the latest 30 videos on PH are sponsored vids looks like PH is cleaning up
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                      • GonZo
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 3180

                        #446
                        Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                        Is this thread turned into epic backfire?
                        No that would be this thread... http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=978028
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                        • timoxxl2
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                          • Nov 2007
                          • 997

                          #447
                          we should recommend this thread as an introduction to the adult industry

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                          • DaLord
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                            • Aug 2001
                            • 3318

                            #448
                            Never thought I should hear the 'likewhoa' word again without going off like a bomb.

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                            • will76
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                              • May 2003
                              • 18037

                              #449
                              Originally posted by Far-L
                              I love hearing how working with Brazzers must mean we are desperate and willing to do anything for traffic. That just makes me happy because it is the kind of assumptive diagnosis that leads people to guide their efforts based on what they think other people are doing rather than clear analysis of what actually works for them.
                              Yes that is my personal opinion. You (and all of the other companies) working with them are more concerned about making sales, no matter who you do business with and how that business conducts itself today and did so in the past. As long as you can make a buck from it. Hey I have no problem with that. Some people are only concerned about making a buck no matter what the cost or the thieves they partner with. If that is you then more power to you, just be up front and honest about it. Don't try to pretend you have good business ethics and are doing business on the up and up when you are working with tube sites that are or were stealing everyone else's content and profiting off of it.
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                              • Far-L
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                                • Feb 2002
                                • 6065

                                #450
                                Originally posted by Qbert
                                If making money matters to you more than the fact that stolen full length clips are responsible for driving the traffic that is makling you that money, then you'll do whatever you have to in order to justify it to yourself in your own mind.

                                It may not be technically illegal, but it's ethically deplorable. It's dirty money. Spin it however you want, but it still boils down to making money from the use of stolen content.

                                Sleep well.
                                lol, you are the one spinning everything and just for the convenience of trying to insult us. I don't consider that to be unethical, unless of course your goal is to discredit us through unsubstantiated and false assertions, but I do think you are being a dick.

                                However, you are right about one thing... it is not, under current US laws "illegal", and while you may deplore the fact that people post the content and consider it unethical, under the circumstances I only find it to be unethical if the tube site doesn't take down anything that we notice them about when necessary. What makes our views about the "ethics" of the situation different in so far as you can claim to be "right" while I am somehow "wrong"? Clearly, if it is not illegal, then how is it unethical if we take advantage of the traffic our clips generate? Because you don't like them? You don't like the big bad tubes? Cry me a river. Maybe when you get off your pedestal of reactionary arrogant accusatory insulting posturing and lose the holier than thou aura you will see the situation more clearly.

                                My position is based on facts. I don't know for a fact who puts up our clips without authorization. I consider it unethical to blame someone, based so far on circumstantial and not factual evidence, which also happens to be the standard for the US legal system. For us it is a fact that if our clips went up without persmission then they were taken down promptly with notice. That might make the situation a pain in the ass but it is not necessarily unethical. If we figured out how to turn that negative into a positive then that doesn't make us unethical either; business-wise, that simply makes us pragmatic.

                                I suggest you crack open the books again to learn what "ethics" really are. If it makes you feel better then you can tell me a great big "i told you so" if Pink Visuals prevails. I already said before though that my hunch is that will only result in a settlement that will be in Pink Visuals interests and not yours, mine, or anyone elses. Is that unethical? No, that is what we call business as usual.
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