Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers

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  • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
    Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
    • Jul 2004
    • 38323

    #301
    300 bootlickers, who claim to be the boss, but are afraid to or can't even disclose who their associates are...

    Originally posted by Nathan
    ADG.. you are quite entertaining
    And you still have not responded to the following post and who your partners/co-conspirators are:

    Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

    I just went to xtube.com, within 1 click I found several scenes of mine that are there illegally. Nothing shocking as I'm always sending DMCAs to your tubes.

    Here is the problem Nathan, you know people are uploading 100% illegal content. Maybe your staff does it, maybe they don't, that is not for me to decide. The only thing that matters to me is, you allow it knowing they do not own the copyright to such content. This is what puts you (and the others) into dirt bag / scum / thief / not to be trusted category. This is why you are meeting resistance.

    By allowing uploads of full scenes from anyone, you know from balls to bones you are violating copyright law and profiting from stolen content.

    Then you come in here and wiggle your way around tough questions and act as if everything has changed, when in fact, I'm still looking at multiple scenes of mine on your site, uploaded by someone who should have never been allowed to upload content there in the first place. Nothing has changed. I'll send a DMCA and the scenes will go away for a week, maybe even two, and then like magic they will reappear.

    You want to make changes and work with everyone, limit the video length to just a few minutes. Any video attempted to be uploaded longer than that is truncated. Make a variational process for site owners who wish to load samples videos to your tubes. A real domain email would be a good start instead of a free one. Create valid accounts instead of bullshit ones.

    Instead, you allow full length videos to be uploaded by strangers. Not only are you NOT 2257 complaint and may house child porn in this manner, but for 100% sure you are allowing stolen content to be loaded as well.

    You talk the talk but do not walk the walk. I can only assume you will be met with mostly resistance from everyone other than bro blowers and other dirt bags.


    ADG
    Last edited by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude; 07-17-2010, 10:53 PM.
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    • BJ
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2002
      • 5590

      #302
      interesting....

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      • Nathan
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2003
        • 3108

        #303
        ADG, I actually have, I told you that the only other shareholders in the company are minority stakeholders of 1 or 2% from management. You just chose to not believe me.

        Regarding DirtyWhiteBoys post, he clearly does not understand DMCA or 2257. But, regardless of that fact, I actually thought similarly about some of these aspects before I acquired the assets in question, but I also talked to prominent law firms to explain DMCA to me and I have now fully understood it. Some of you might want to do the same, since you clearly do not. That said, I have also said time and time again that we are changing certain things of how the tubes operate. I can repeat myself 500 times though if you plan to post some baseless accusation over and over again too... I have no problem with that.

        ADG, you are not hurting me one bit by re-posting this stuff, I could not care less what you think. I enjoy certain types of discussions on the weekends because it relaxes me between working days while I watch TV for example... you are just entertaining me. Of course, you can go on if you want to as I said, I will just come back and reply with the same facts every time...
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        • JFK
          FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
          • Jan 2002
          • 67373

          #304
          I'll park here for now

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          • ProG
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2009
            • 1319

            #305
            This is just unreal to watch this industry kill itself. Fabian you have come a long way from being John's bitch. Congrats.
            History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.

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            • Far-L
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 6065

              #306
              I love how people here are questioning our ethics, calling us desperate money grubbers, claiming we are liars, insinuating that we don't know our ass from our elbow when it comes to due diligence, and so on and so on.

              Listen, the moment one of you spends the amount we have spent truly fighting for the industry with our hard earned money, rather than just standing up on some soap box and sermonizing like alcoholic preachers trying to atone for their sins by calling fire and brimstone on everyone else, let me know.

              The instant someone here can become as open a book as we have been willing to become in litigation, creating a public record, so that anyone could examine us freely, then maybe I will listen but only when you are willing to go the same distance of accountability.

              Upon surviving as many monumental, groundshaking, tide turning, sky is falling, changes in the industry as we have over the years, then I will trust your judgement even if I don't agree with your opinions.

              Until then, you are free to disagree with us, just don't resort to mistruths, false accusations, and ridiculous innuendos to try and tarnish our rep. Completely unprofessional.
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              • theking
                Nice Kitty
                • Sep 2002
                • 21053

                #307
                Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                300 bootlickers, who claim to be the boss, but are afraid to or can't even disclose who their associates are...



                And you still have not responded to the following post and who your partners/co-conspirators are:





                ADG
                Unless I have overlooked it...I do not see a single question in DirtyWhiteBoy's post for him to respond to. Am I wrong?
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                • Loch
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 7674

                  #308
                  Originally posted by Far-L
                  I love how people here are questioning our ethics, calling us desperate money grubbers, claiming we are liars, insinuating that we don't know our ass from our elbow when it comes to due diligence, and so on and so on.

                  Listen, the moment one of you spends the amount we have spent truly fighting for the industry with our hard earned money, rather than just standing up on some soap box and sermonizing like alcoholic preachers trying to atone for their sins by calling fire and brimstone on everyone else, let me know.

                  The instant someone here can become as open a book as we have been willing to become in litigation, creating a public record, so that anyone could examine us freely, then maybe I will listen but only when you are willing to go the same distance of accountability.

                  Upon surviving as many monumental, groundshaking, tide turning, sky is falling, changes in the industry as we have over the years, then I will trust your judgement even if I don't agree with your opinions.

                  Until then, you are free to disagree with us, just don't resort to mistruths, false accusations, and ridiculous innuendos to try and tarnish our rep. Completely unprofessional.
                  You guys are based in seattle?
                  Jebus that is right in our back yard...never knew

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                  • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                    Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 38323

                    #309
                    Originally posted by Nathan
                    ADG, I actually have, I told you that the only other shareholders in the company are minority stakeholders of 1 or 2% from management.
                    What you have not answered (and what my question was, which you still did not answer) is who the other partners/associates/principals/officers/co-conspirators are within Manwin. Are there people leftover from Mansef or Virage still involved with Manwin?

                    1% to 2% stakeholders represent people with a 1.4 to 2.8 million dollar stake in Manwin.

                    From your statements, I guess you consider these people pretty much worthless peons, but others of us would like to know whom besides yourself (the self-proclaimed Managing Partner of a non-partnership) is a part of the Manwin management team.

                    From what you have indicated so far, your business appears to have the same stench and shadiness (or more) as iBill/Penthouse/AFF (at least we know who the principal scoundrels were/are in those companies).

                    Honestly, you come across more as a bootlicking shill than a Managing Partner:



                    ADG
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                    • Loch
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 7674

                      #310
                      ADG do me a favor and shoot me an icq or email please.
                      I for some reason cant find your email and need to get you a few things from the past...

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                      • Nathan
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3108

                        #311
                        ADG,

                        the Manwin MANAGEMENT team was taken over in the acquisition just as most of the other employees. So people like Brazil, Tank, Feraz, Santana and such. Considering the fact that I wrote people are the most important thing in most acquisitions, I can not really follow why you think I see them as worthless peons... but ok.

                        As I said, there are no other major shareholders than me though.

                        ADG, things change.. what you might think to know about my past might be true or not, I can not say since I simply do not know what you think you know. I am not going to discuss this here either way though since it does not matter. But for example, just because I was a shareholder in TMM, does not mean TMM is involved in Manwin... you do understand that basic logic right?
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                        • Far-L
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 6065

                          #312
                          Originally posted by Loch
                          You guys are based in seattle?
                          Jebus that is right in our back yard...never knew
                          Only I am up here as I work from home. The rest of operations, offices, etc. is down in Irvine and San Diego.

                          Where are you?
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                          • Loch
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 7674

                            #313
                            Originally posted by Far-L
                            Only I am up here as I work from home. The rest of operations, offices, etc. is down in Irvine and San Diego.

                            Where are you?
                            Vancouver - BC, but heading to Seattle soon for a few mainstream social media meetings.
                            I wouldent mind having a cup of coffe if you are free on the dates im there which is still to be determined.

                            I believe you and my partner Cecil did some business back in the day, years ago though.

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                            • DWB
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 31779

                              #314
                              Originally posted by Nathan
                              Regarding DirtyWhiteBoys post, he clearly does not understand DMCA or 2257.
                              Not at all. I just send them out to thieving companies like yours every day to have my content removed, only to have the exact same scene reloaded a few weeks later. I've already sent 3 DMCA notices on the exact content I'm looking at right now on your site and it was removed 3 times before. Not surprised that I'm looking at it once again.

                              And yea, no idea about 2257 either. I've just been shooting content for the past 10 years on their word that they were old enough. That's how we all make content, didn't you know that?

                              Keep spinning and side stepping, it really doesn't matter to me anymore. I do what I need to do in order to get it removed, you put it back up, I take it down again. Just the way business is these days. It sucks and is time consuming, but I've adapted.

                              At the end of the day you know you're a thief and that's all that really matters. I can remove my content day in and day out and sleep well knowing that I've never ripped off anyone or big too big a puss to answer direct questions from others in the industry. It's a shame a man like you with such deep pockets and wealth of industry knowledge doesn't have the cahones to walk it like he talks it and shoot people straight. You'd be unstoppable if you did.

                              Good luck with your new venture, the asset hiding, the side stepping, the money laundering charges, the current lawsuits and the ones to come.

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                              • Nathan
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 3108

                                #315
                                Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                Not at all. I just send them out to thieving companies like yours every day to have my content removed, only to have the exact same scene reloaded a few weeks later. I've already sent 3 DMCA notices on the exact content I'm looking at right now on your site and it was removed 3 times before. Not surprised that I'm looking at it once again.

                                And yea, no idea about 2257 either. I've just been shooting content for the past 10 years on their word that they were old enough. That's how we all make content, didn't you know that?

                                Keep spinning and side stepping, it really doesn't matter to me anymore. I do what I need to do in order to get it removed, you put it back up, I take it down again. Just the way business is these days. It sucks and is time consuming, but I've adapted.

                                At the end of the day you know you're a thief and that's all that really matters. I can remove my content day in and day out and sleep well knowing that I've never ripped off anyone or big too big a puss to answer direct questions from others in the industry. It's a shame a man like you with such deep pockets and wealth of industry knowledge doesn't have the cahones to walk it like he talks it and shoot people straight. You'd be unstoppable if you did.

                                Good luck with your new venture, the asset hiding, the side stepping, the money laundering charges, the current lawsuits and the ones to come.
                                DWB, you clearly do not know me, you clearly do not know what I have done in this industry in the past and you clearly do not read what I write.

                                I have also not really sidestepped QUESTIONS, you have just not really asked any... Replying that its non of anyones business or that its confidential information is not sidestepping questions, its simply not being allowed to answer...

                                Either way, if you think I am a thief, so be it, I do not think I am. Neither do I think Google are thieves. Also, I have not owned these tubes for more than a few months, I am not going to launch some clock-and-dagger operation of changing their form of legal operation overnight.

                                The reason I have said you clearly do not fully understand 2257 is because you mentioned we can in no way comply to it... that simply is not true, re-read 2257 if you do not believe me.
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