Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers

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  • pradaboy
    sell me your banners
    • Dec 2003
    • 12931

    #226
    This thread is so much fun.
    Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
    FREE to register domains...
    Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

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    • will76
      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
      • May 2003
      • 18037

      #227
      Originally posted by colin farrell
      virage owns envisionext too. fyi.
      so standaman comments are biased.
      you guys shouldn't be so quick to suck this guys dick.
      be careful his cock might be dirty.
      i don't trust anyone in this biz.
      are you kidding, when he throws out "buying companies worth 5 million +" the people looking to sell are tripping over each other to get to him. The people with programs who are not looking to sell are tripping over each other to get to him to try to get traffic from his sites. The content producers are tripping over each other to try to sell to him.

      Originally posted by crazytrini85
      Will you be continuing on with your content theft internet domination plans, or will you be bringing that to a halt? Your company is among the worst thieves in the world and everyone knows it.

      If you do continue with this method of doing business, it speaks VOLUMES of your character and business practices and makes me question every company you have ever worked at or started. Those who are dirty, usually always have been and always will be.

      The world awaits your response as to how you will deal with content theft from this day forward. You can either continue being cock suckers or you can turn that ship around and come out a hero.
      Tube sites really don't need to steal any more. They stole to get market share, now they have program out there begging them to put their content up on their sites as long as they link back to them. It turned out just like the TGP sites, who ever was mentioning that 2-3 years ago was right. Sites steal, everyone hates them, sites get tons of traffic and control market, everyone blows them. The site has no more reason to steal when people are tripping over themselves to give them their content.
      Last edited by will76; 07-17-2010, 06:52 AM.
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      • LickMyBalls
        So Fucking Banned
        • Oct 2009
        • 756

        #228
        Originally posted by Zyber
        I'm curious, how is Nathan / Manwin and their tubes connected to NATS / TMM ?

        How close ties does NATS have with these people?
        We have another winner! The folks that know their shit are gonna laugh until high noon quite soon.

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        • timoxxl2
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2007
          • 997

          #229
          do you want to aquire http://www.cupidocam.com and some connected websites? ... mainly escort related websites?

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          • will76
            Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
            • May 2003
            • 18037

            #230
            Originally posted by Loch
            This thread is starting to tickle my pissy nerve.
            Its simply astounding to me that people cant look or at the very minimum TRY to look towards the future instead of always trying to place blame no matter what and bringing up the past which quite frankly have been nothing more than 3000 people bitching about the same thing over and over again without doing anything about it.

            If Mother Teresa (Passed i know) bought Brazzers + networks tomorrow you would all call her the devil as well.

            Most people have just found out about this ownership shift and yet the last 30 days people have already been talking about how "Some" tubes have been changing.
            Does that make the past right, no we all know that, but as we all know that why keep up the same rant?

            Give it time and watch the situation closely.

            Now go ahead and take a few jabs at me for posting this.
            But know that i have felt the same as you, but my business tactics conquered by not sulking and we are now twice the size....
            You wouldn't happen to be selling content to them by any chance and wanting to sell more ?

            If you don't keep one eye in the past (and one in the future), then you will repeat the same mistakes in the future if you don't remember and learn what happened previously.
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            • TMM_John
              Confirmed User
              • May 2004
              • 6664

              #231
              Originally posted by Zyber
              I'm curious, how is Nathan / Manwin and their tubes connected to NATS / TMM ?

              How close ties does NATS have with these people?
              Nathan (Fabian) has not been associated with TMM for almost 4 years now.

              Mansef (apparently now known as Manwin) has been a client of TMM using NATS for a long time.

              TMM has no association beyond that with either party, their tube sites, etc.


              Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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              • will76
                Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                • May 2003
                • 18037

                #232
                Originally posted by Far-L
                Steve, I respect what you have done in the industry, and I am not going to be insulted by your statement. You and I both know that we have a long history of taking on some really big dogs with some really big fat freaking fleas and putting them down like the dirty, mangy, mongrels that they truly are. In fact, you and I have been on the same side of many a fight for this industry over the years.

                Until I have an experience with these guys to the contrary, I can only say how our relationship has gone. It is not lies. It is not bros. I have never even met Nathan or anyone else at Brazzers, past or present ownership. I am just not one to fall into the same track that everyone else is on.

                We go our way. Our decision might be unpopular but we are basing our experience on our history and not on a bunch of disgruntled webmasters looking for someone to blame for their own inadequecies.

                Wow, so everyone being upset at Brazzers for their involvement with stolen content all over their tube sites over the last couple years and the way it has affected EVERYONE, is just " a bunch of disgruntled webmasters looking for someone to blame for their own inadequacies".

                You have fought "dogs" before, but how many of those dogs were companies that you had nothing to gain from? Like Acacia. You had zero to gain from them. Tube sites are "dogs" when they are stealing your content but they are "bros" when they link back to you and you make some sales. Everyone knows the tube sites control a lot of traffic now and sales are harder and harder to come by. Are you really going to take a stand against a company that you can actually profit from? Question asked and answered.
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                • Zyber
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 832

                  #233
                  Originally posted by TMM_John
                  Nathan (Fabian) has not been associated with TMM for almost 4 years now.

                  Mansef (apparently now known as Manwin) has been a client of TMM using NATS for a long time.

                  TMM has no association beyond that with either party, their tube sites, etc.
                  Thanks for clearing it up

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                  • Semi-Retired-Dave
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 11190

                    #234
                    Co-Founder of Nats and now a buyer of Brazzers.
                    Two very different business models, one that helped the industry, then one to hurt the industry

                    Think about all the money Nats missed out on if tubes didn't exists.
                    Support a Good Cause

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                    • colin farrell
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 188

                      #235
                      when you fuck with people's livelihoods, you have to be prepared to take some shots to the nuts. imho nathan looks just as guilty as alec does in his .xxx threads.
                      just passing by

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                      • Semi-Retired-Dave
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 11190

                        #236
                        Originally posted by colin farrell
                        when you fuck with people's livelihoods, you have to be prepared to take some shots to the nuts. imho nathan looks just as guilty as alec does in his .xxx threads.
                        Can't they get in trouble for buying stolen property?
                        So I can go on a burglar spree, put it all in a warehouse, then sell my warehouse with all the assets I now claim I own.
                        Sounds like possession of stolen property if you ask me.

                        But as Fucked up as all this is, The only credit I give Nathan is that he had the Balls to come here and start this thread.
                        First, spending all that money on the transaction, then taking all the shit from us.

                        But at the end of the day if things stay the way they are, he will recoup from his investment in about 2 years.
                        Last edited by Semi-Retired-Dave; 07-17-2010, 07:46 AM.
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                        • crazytrini85
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 817

                          #237
                          Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                          Co-Founder of Nats and now a buyer of Brazzers.
                          Two very different business models, one that helped the industry, then one to hurt the industry

                          Think about all the money Nats missed out on if tubes didn't exists.
                          Interesting. To think Nathan will now be part of the problem that will in turn cause TMM to lose more money.

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                          • Robbie
                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 20960

                            #238
                            Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                            The only credit I give Nathan is that he had the Balls to come here and start this thread.
                            That's probably what he's paid to do. It's a thankless task trying to defend pornhub for sure. Heck, I'm not even sure why they care. The only people they need to be worrying about are the govt., the authorities, and pinkvisual suing them.

                            I'm not even sure why they sent their boy in here to do damage control. It isn't like any of us affiliates can send them sales anymore anyway.
                            -Robbie
                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                            • crazytrini85
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 817

                              #239
                              Originally posted by Robbie
                              That's probably what he's paid to do. It's a thankless task trying to defend pornhub for sure. Heck, I'm not even sure why they care. The only people they need to be worrying about are the govt., the authorities, and pinkvisual suing them.

                              I'm not even sure why they sent their boy in here to do damage control. It isn't like any of us affiliates can send them sales anymore anyway.
                              Could probably close the thread after Robbies post. I agree, he is wasting his time here. They are getting sued and in the middle of a money laundering charge by the US Government, and they will be sued again I'm sure. No reason to feed us broke ass trolls who wish you the very worst luck a person can have.

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                              • Robbie
                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 20960

                                #240
                                Heh-heh, while I was in this thread running my dick skinners...pornhub got a sale on claudia-marie.com last night! So I must recant my "traffic is worthless" statement.
                                -Robbie
                                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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