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http://3dnudegirls.com/

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papill0n

I built an internet website!

flashfire

really cool actually nice "find"

Raf1

wow, you were so lucky to "find" that website. Let's all sign up and promote it, lol

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just a punk

We and two or three other programs already tried to sell 3D sites for obsolete red-green glasses about 5 years ago. That didn't work.

P.S. Still have a ton of 3D pictures somewhere on my HDD's...

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PornMD

You found your site? Good for you.

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bjlover

The fact you were even able to find your own site makes you far more intelligent than I originally thought

JustDaveXxx

Looks cool, but it looks like 2D up-converts. Not shot stereoscopically. Its shot with one camera and up converted to 3D. What gives that away is the lack of "pop out" on the screen.

Second give away is that the camera looks hand held and a 3D rig is a minimum 45 pounds and You and i both know that the Panasonic camera needs to be almost 12 feet away from subject and that isn't the case in these samples.


Not trying to bust balls or be disrespectful, just pointing out the facts.


This is clip is shot with 2 cameras see the details in the depth and more importantly the "pop out" of the mid shots. You cannot get that with a 2D up convert.


Go full screen, Set the the quality to 720p and on the the "3D" tab select "Red/Cyan Glasses Optimized (Dubois)


If you have a 3D polarized lap top such as the Acer 3D you probably already know how to set it. Thats when its really baddass!!


https://youtube.com/watch?v=lyUhAUjw-pU

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clicker

I hate glasses... Please fix.

just a punk

JustDaveXxx is right. The video quality is above of average. Anachrome is soooo obsilete. Now it's time of new stereo technologies.

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Peace

we spoke about that remember. Pics and vids are two different things and especially full hd 3D that www.3dwowcontent.com offered+free glasses

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just a punk

Actuallty it's not 3D but just an anachrome stereo content which was already absolute in 20th century. And yeah, still content (pictures) look better than video in anachrome stereo - better for your eyes.

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I figured I'd chime in with a few things, as well as clear a few things up lol

First of all, the site Peace 'found' is not HIS site, in fact it's my site and it's not finished yet (hove on some of the links they are #'s and not actual links

All of the video clips I have on that site were in fact shot with 3D equipment, the lack of "pure pop" is because I've shrunken down the provided sample to better fit into the template I'm using, there is a HUGE difference in "pop" between 3-D shot and 2D converted content, when I get the next batch of posts up there you can see, because the next posts will be 2D converted content.

Cyberxxx, you can cry from your soapbox all you want about how red/blue, red/cyan, magenta/green are "not real 3-D" and that it's been obsolete (even though you used the word absolute which means the exact opposite of what you were going for lol) but you and I both know you're dead wrong on that YES other companies in adult have attempted the 3-D route over the past years and most have all failed (for the same reasons don't forget) but that does NOT mean it is not a valid or profitable market

The mainstream movie industry has been using that exact format for years, and there is no signs of slowing even today

red/blue glasses were used in the home DVD versions of: Hannah Montanna "best of both worlds", Shrek 2 and 3, Sharkboy and Lava girl, Spy kids 3D, fly me to the moon, The Ploar Express, Camp Blood, Barbie & the magic Pegasus, The Jonus Brothers, Friday The 13th part 3D, and more

magenta/green glasses were used in the home dvd versions of: Journey to the center of the earth, Coraline, my bloody valentine, Monsters Vs aliens (and yet the glasses used on the cover art were red/blue) and others

As the dubbed "Godfather Of 3D Porn" ~AVN 2003 I've kept a close eye on both the 3D Toon and 3-D markets, and I know what it takes to make either succeed online It's actually pretty simple if you stop and think about it as a business, but I'm not going to spill it here for free lol

If this is in fact such a dead market, why is it that RIGHT NOW, there is an insurgence of 3-D coming into the adult industry? Pink Visual shooting "Her first lesbian experience" in 3-D, as well as producing 3-D porn for mobile phones, Playboy's 3-D centerfold, and their upcoming 3-D movie, ClickYou's 3-D Trisha Uptown's shoot, Live Jasmin's 3-D live chat models (which the number keeps growing) Peace's paysite, 3-D content store AND 3-D content shooting, etc etc seems to me that 3-D porn is far from a 'dead animal' and more so something that could (and WILL) become a damn good money maker for any who promote it.

I said this back in 2001-2003 about the 3D Toon market, and most of you (that are still here) laughed at me, told me I was crazy, told me that 3D Toons would "Never hold their own" "Never be a standalone niche" and "NEVER make ANY money" well we all see that I was dead right about 3D Toons lol, and now again I'm saying the SAME THING about 3-D porn, the only difference here is this time I'm not 5 years ahead of myself.

-Loki-

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one more little thing, and I'm not meaning to bust your balls here but I have always had a very hard time holding my tongue on certain things lol....

Anaglyph may in fact be obsolete BUT it is and always has been the only real "home method" that works for the price (little to nothing)

Right now your "new stereo technologies" will take another 4-6 years before it is placed in a wide enough home market (meaning it's toooooo damn expensive right now!) which is the EXACT reason that HOLLYWOOD (you know those people who eat, drink and breath the latest and greatest technologies) are STILL packing anaglyph glasses into their NEW DVD'S.

IF you were right, then Hollywood would be packaging the clear stereo glasses, OR the plastic LCD glasses, OR... those fugly ass VR goggles used in some theaters, HOWEVER, Hollywood knows that the bulk of the masses are too poor (or scared) to plop down $2k - $4k on new tech that has 2-3 titles ready for it and so they stick to what is....... wait for it....... wait for it......

Known, Trusted, Easy to obtain

What is TRULY obsolete is the thinking "If it didn't work for me, it won't work for anyone"

-Loki-

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just a punk

"Cry"??? Are you idiot? Why should I "cry"? This project will die as many others in the middle of 2000's. Actually it's not a my site, so I don't care. I'm already tried this concept and it didn't go. That's it.

I don't want to bump this thread anymore. Period.

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Loki

lost in translation I suspect, I meant "Cry" meaning "to pronounce loudly to the masses" not "boo hoo hoo hoo"

You've made 4 posts in this thread (counting the one I'm replying to) and in all 4 you've done your best to proclaim (which I chose to use the word cry) that 3-D is shit, that it would not work, and that anachrome is not real 3-D.

and my personal thought on it all is just because you tried and failed with the niche you assume (and want everyone else to think) it will never work.

and if you really did not care you would not have wasted the time of writing any of your 4 posts.

I'm not trying to pick a fight, just pointing out the obvious here

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3D beautiful slender woman in a soapy bath tub looks very good.

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Peace

Hei man! i answered already that pictures are not as good as current video quality that
we had produced. if you watch it in anaglief it is great. But we also can give you side by side format for 3dtv and 3d laptop. then it is like IMAX quality ) time has come )

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are you idiot?

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3D Porn :D
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Loki

oh, and before I forget lol, if any of you want to do any linktrades with my 3-D site let me know here or email me at loki(@)lokiporn(.)com (remove the ()'s of course)

I'll be launching it live (official launch lol) in the next week or two,

I don't get much time to work on my own projects or side projects these days while running Hentaibiz, but I take a few hours each night, and the weekends that I don't head to the lake house.

-Loki-

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unimatrix0

I like 3D anaglyph movies, but this 3d porn videos you have are kinda stupid...
What's the point of filming 3d porn if you don't take advantage of 3d effects?
You get a rubbish movies, with bad colors, and an annoying headache.

JustDaveXxx

I know that changing the codacs or file formats can fuck up your "pop". But wouldnt you want to figure out the right file format that would show your product in its absolute best light so that the possible buyer would be "Wowed"? Not busting balls just my observation.

And why would you want to up convert 2D into 3D? You will only get depth with Zero "Pop" and people who would actually give 3D a try will think that all 3D sucks and may never try watching it again.

I think that there will be a rash of 2D to 3D up converts when it comes to porn and this will fuck things up for the true 3D shooters. What will separate the crap 2D to 3D up converts with the True Stereoscopically 3D will be with what the trailers show or don't show. They will have "pop" or no "pop", it will be that simple.


In my opinion i think 2D to 3D converts suck ass in quality, and is a serious consumer rip off. 2D converts will give true stereoscopically shot 3D a bad rap. But then again it seems that porn loves to fuck the consumer.



I agree with you 100% on all of your points. You really know what you are talking about and you truly understand 3D and where it is going.


[QUOTE=Loki;17325022]If this is in fact such a dead market, why is it that RIGHT NOW, there is an insurgence of 3-D coming into the adult industry? Pink Visual shooting "Her first lesbian experience" in 3-D, as well as producing 3-D porn for mobile phones, Playboy's 3-D centerfold, and their upcoming 3-D movie, ClickYou's 3-D Trisha Uptown's shoot, Live Jasmin's 3-D live chat models (which the number keeps growing) Peace's paysite, 3-D content store AND 3-D content shooting, etc etc seems to me that 3-D porn is far from a 'dead animal' and more so something that could (and WILL) become a damn good money maker for any who promote it.[QUOTE=Loki;17325022]


I agree with you, but why fight with these people over it? I bet most of these guys are cruising porn sites claiming to be webmasters, have old TV tube style monitors, have 56K modems, carry a beeper, drive a car from the 80's and kisses mom before he goes to bed. Some people don't like change and will argue all day on why they shouldn't never change.



You are on point and and on the right track, just shoot it right and don't support 2D up converts, because that is what will hurt 3D.


Very True. I have seen some pretty cool non-porn anaglyph content out there. Its pretty good for non 3D Tv's and non 3D PC's but polarized is the way to go. Then the next step up from their is "shutters". "Shutters" is very clean and crisp and is definitely the best option for 3D.

People who know, will agree with me and people who troll and "hate" will say i don't know what im talking about.


You are dead on. But the coolest thing is that all good 3D is shot the same way and you will easily be able to out put your content into what ever the delivery system or file standard becomes.


I like your posts and like your outlooks and opinions. You are very knowledgable and you don't talk out of your ass. I respect that.

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Loki

First off, the content and paysite is NOT mine, it's Peace's / Classybucks, The site he showed off here (3DNudeGirls) is an affil site I made to promote his stuff as well as the other 3-D stuff out there.

now as for converting 'up' you are of course both right and wrong, Hollywood has been doing that exact things all along, Avatar, Alice In Wonderland and Up for example were all shot in 2D and then converted to stereotropic 3-D by one or more companies, now granted there is a HUGE difference between anaglyph / anachrome content and Stereotropic content but IF done correctly (and shot correctly in the first place) converting up from 2D to 3-D will and does work.

I had to shrink down my preview content to accomidate the theme I'm using on my site, however there is not much of a quality loss, AND, my samples are shorter then those on Peace's tour, surfers clicking onto the tour will see longer versions with much higher quality ;)



I have software here that can convert both images and videos (diff software for each actually) and the end results really depend on the person doing the converting, IF you know about depth, backgrounds, colors, and movement AND you take your time per image/video you can in fact produce amazing end results.

My fear / prediction however is that a mass amount of sponsors will 'find' the same software and batch process all their content thus producing shoddy cheap 3-D 'knock-off' content, which CAN hurt the overall market.

But this is where people like yourself, Peace and others can step in and 'save' the problems from happening, content shooters shooting in true 3-D and selling at a "reasonable cost" will assure that only high quality REAL 3-D content is all our customers are seeing.


I both agree and argue a bit, mainly reefer to my thoughts about HOW conversion is being handled above.


I've been at both sides of the 3D/3-D game since 1999 I stuck close to both markets but primarally focused on the 3D Toon (CGI stuff) for the most part, I did not feel at that time that 3-D content would hold it's own, and would only at best be a fad at the time, BUT I still did as much research, hunting, talking and 'teaching' on 3-D because I was sure that at some point in time it would in fact take off as it's own niche/market

That time is now finally coming, regardless of what the jaded will say, Over the past 5 years I've contacted many of the webmasters who attempted to foray into this market, most wrote me off and did not heed the advice I gave them and they are now gone, Peace on the other hand understands 100% what I've told him, and he's listening contently and I personally feel that as long as he follows the advice I've given him he will succeed and last in this market (and more and more people will follow suit)


lol I couldn't agree more with you HOWEVER, I've always looked at all of this as a business (shocking right?) and too many people have missed that point, and instead they look at it as just "porn" "nude people" and or "a party" those people normally fail, and I've always had this unstoppable urge to 'help' and 'nurture' so even when I know it is falling upon deaf ears I will argue certain things that I am most passionate about and normally the recipient of my words misses them or ignores them BUT other readers get a jolt of OMFG!!!! and they take the advice/knowledge and run with it.

I'm actually pretty quite on the boards though lol, been here since 2004, and have less then 4k posts, and the bulk of those were in the last 10 months since I took over marketing / affiliate manager for Hentaibiz (shameless plug)

Well I do not (currently) shoot content, at best I produce 3D Toon content when I have free time (which now is pretty nill) but, I think instead of turning our backs on 2D - 3-D content we should instead focus on EDUCATING, both the people converting and the ones viewing.

instead of looking at our customers as just dollar signs and trying to fleece them like were nothing more then a bunch of carnies, we educate them on the different types of 3-D and show them the various differences of them, we show them WHY they should put out more money for the new polarized and shutters styles of 3-D, and then as the consumer market evolves so too must we.

Right now as I stated red/cyan IS the way to go for us (the adult industry) because it is still the most affordable and profitable way to produce/distribute the content at this time, ONCE the consumers adopt the new 3-D tech then we evolve and produce for that as well.


Thanks

I've offered help/consulting to many over the years and most ignored me cause they just did not either know who I was, or they were just too damn stubborn to accept any other opinion then their own.

I will share a golden nugget for you and anyone else reading this, and it's exactly what I told people who have tried the 3-D market before, and NONE followed this and all but one of them are now GONE...

The biggest problem with 3-D commercial porn is the glasses, Porn is mostly an impulse buy, or an 'instant gratification' buy, your customers want to 'enjoy' what they paid for as soon as they have given you their money.

With 3-D porn you are literally asking your customers to give you their money and then WAIT for you to send them glasses, OR wait till they themselves go out and buy/find/make their own glasses, this is not a very good business model as porn has always had somewhat of a 'bad stigma' you are asking someone to trust you with their home address (something that in the past we as an industry have abused to death) so you need to show them other ways of obtaining glasses as well as offering to send them glasses.

Since your customer needs to have something extra to view your core content, you should try one of more of the following...

EXTEND their membership accordingly instead of 30 days for ________ give them 5 weeks for the price of 4 AKA the first week is FREE while you get your glasses

Offer a free (as long as they are paid members) a 2D version of your site.

Show them all the ways they can find, buy, make their own glasses (google is your best friend with this lol)

I'll save the 2nd gold nugget for later if anyone is interested in learning more of the biz side of this niche ;)

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Peace

we shoot with a few diff types of 3-D cameras, it really depends on what and where we are shooting, some seem to work better then others depending on location and subject. I personally like Sony and Cannon for shooting porn content

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