The shit (oil) is about to hit the fan

[ProG]

We're about to see the first tropical storm hit the Gulf. This is going to be a very active season for sure.

THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE...80 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. THIS
SYSTEM...ACCOMPANIED BY HEAVY RAINS AND GUSTY WINDS...IS FORECAST
TO MOVE SLOWLY TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST AND REACH THE YUCATAN
PENINSULA IN A DAY OR TWO. ALL INTERESTS IN THE NORTHWESTERN
CARIBBEAN SEA AND YUCATAN SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS
SYSTEM.

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[martinsc]

[cardinalvices]

This is going to get dirty now...

[_Richard_]

the worst has happened

[IllTestYourGirls]

We are fucked.

Ill be waiting for the conspiracy theorist to say this is weather control by China.

[fatfoo]

The Huffington Post said there was an earthquake on June 23 in Toronto, but I was walking in Toronto and I did not feel any earthquake.

[ProG]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

We are fucked.

Ill be waiting for the conspiracy theorist to say this is weather control by China.

nah man... it's controlled by HAARP

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

We are fucked.

Ill be waiting for the conspiracy theorist to say this is weather control by China.

You say that like it can't be done

Weather is manipulated again for snow
By Wang Qian (China Daily)
Updated: 2009-11-11 08:14 Comments(0) PrintMail
Beijing's unusually heavy snow, which brought a traffic paralysis to the capital yesterday, again highlighted the controversial use of weather modification.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...nt_8946435.htm


They learned it from us.

They don't really need to make hurricanes to occur during hurricane season. But what you can do is cause an oil spill and do a bit of cloud seeding to make it worse.

[Fletch XXX]

put in my phonecall this morning to try and get on a boat and take my hazmat class to get involved in helping with the spill, it is really affecting us locally - cant sit back and watch anymore. Time to put aside personal bullshit and pitch in and not just watch... will be spending some long days out on the water if all goes well...

[iseeyou]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

We are fucked.

Ill be waiting for the conspiracy theorist to say this is weather control by China.

China. ha ha. very funny

Everyone knows Osama Bin Laden is doing it from his base in Iran, along with help from Saddam hussein. Yeah you heard it, s. Hussein is still alive. They caught/executed his body double but the real Hussein escaped to Iran with Bin Laden. Right now, they are plotting the destruction of our ecosystem while we waste time on sanctions.

[~Ray]

the workers on the beach were only allowed to work 10 minutes an hour due to the conditions.

50 minute break!

[pornguy]

thats DAMN south of the Yucatan based on that image

[mynameisjim]

The big thing is that everytime a storm comes through, the boats capturing oil HAVE TO leave the area, leaving the uncut well to leak completely unrestricted for several days.

[ProG]

Originally Posted by pornguy

thats DAMN south of the Yucatan based on that image

It will likely go right over the Yucatan and once it hits the warm Gulf waters no one knows where it will go. It could even upgrade to a hurricane and slam into Texas or LA. It could go into Mexico and never hit the Gulf. These storms have a mind of their own.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by ~Ray

the workers on the beach were only allowed to work 10 minutes an hour due to the conditions.

50 minute break!

They could work with hazmat suits and oxygen masks but BP doesn't want it to seem as though the air is dangerous. Much like when cleaning up after 9-11 and they said the air was ok. (even though the buildings were condemned for asbestos) Now most of the workers are dead or dying from one related illness or another.

[Jman]

I heard it's raining oil in Louisianna

[ProG]

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

I heard it's raining oil in Louisianna

[MK Ultra]

can you say "blender"?

http://www.stormpulse.com/atlantic?d...ml=1&ql=0&sl=0

[dyna mo]

i think i'll hold out for information prior to making a conclusion on whether or not that storm will make it to the gulf.

the oil rain video is bunk.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by ProG

It will likely go right over the Yucatan and once it hits the warm Gulf waters no one knows where it will go. It could even upgrade to a hurricane and slam into Texas or LA. It could go into Mexico and never hit the Gulf. These storms have a mind of their own.

I actually find the models to be highly accurate, and aren't wrong very much. I remember the models showing katrina coming to new orleans when it was still in the atlantic.

Every year they seem to get better.

[ProG]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i think i'll hold out for information prior to making a conclusion on whether or not that storm will make it to the gulf.

the oil rain video is bunk.

I wouldn't go as far as calling it bunk, but it is currently "unproven"

An unknown variable on the overall cycle is the introduction of BP's dispersant of choice, Corexit 9500, which may be either helping or hurting the degree of evaporation. Dispersants break up the natural surface tension in oil, sending small droplets into the water column and reducing the surface area which may evaporate, however it also changes the chemistry of the oil which remains on the surface. We have yet to find any science on the subject of the evaporation rates of these compounds or their likelihood to come back down as contaminated rain.

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[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by ProG

nah man... it's controlled by HAARP

Russians do it on every parade, and they get clear sky then

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by ProG

I wouldn't go as far as calling it bunk, but it is currently "unproven"



Source

yeah, i read that article earlier this morning when i was looking into this story, as i read it, the article states that oil could possible lose volume & evaporate, that's a far cry from it raining oil inland.

epa also says no. at this point, let's just focus on containing the gusher and not jumping to conclusions about oil rain and devastating hurricanes, IMO.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

yeah, i read that article earlier this morning when i was looking into this story, as i read it, the article states that oil could possible lose volume & evaporate, that's a far cry from it raining oil inland.

epa also says no. at this point, let's just focus on containing the gusher and not jumping to conclusions about oil rain and devastating hurricanes, IMO.

Do hurricanes work on evaporation? Or do they suck things up like a huge tornado?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mayabong

Do hurricanes work on evaporation? Or do they suck things up like a huge tornado?

not sure what you are driving at, if i recall correctly they do act like a vacuum right?

but again, not sure what you are driving at. if there's a hurricane in the gulf it will be a nightmare scenario x10000000. especially due to the temps this year. i'm the sort to wait until more info is available. what's the point otherwise? there's nothing we can do except focus on stopping the god damn gusher.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

not sure what you are driving at, if i recall correctly they do act like a vacuum right?

but again, not sure what you are driving at. if there's a hurricane in the gulf it will be a nightmare scenario x10000000. especially due to the temps this year. i'm the sort to wait until more info is available. what's the point otherwise? there's nothing we can do except focus on stopping the god damn gusher.

Not really driving at anything, except the possibility of oil being carried far inland. I think it is just like a huge tornado if you look at it from the side.

I don't know whats gonna happen.. I probaby wont be going back to new orleans for a while. I've never seen the temps in the atlantic and gulf this high this early since I been following storms.

[babymaker]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

The Huffington Post said there was an earthquake on June 23 in Toronto, but I was walking in Toronto and I did not feel any earthquake.

Well, I don't know how fat you are lol so maybe it was not an earthquake it was just you out walking for the first time in a long time lol


J/K Foo your the best

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by mayabong

Do hurricanes work on evaporation? Or do they suck things up like a huge tornado?

after Katrina around here people had problems growing things like tomatoes from all the salty water it brought inland. It happens from what I have heard.

[ProG]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

epa also says no. at this point, let's just focus on containing the gusher and not jumping to conclusions about oil rain and devastating hurricanes, IMO.

I understand what you're saying but that is kind of the same attitude that got us into this mess. You have to think ahead of the disaster, not sit around and wait to see what happens. Storms this season are inevitable, it makes sense to prepare NOW. Whatever that is....

[Elli]

I wonder if the dispersant atomized the oil enough that it can get picked up into rain clouds.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by ProG

I understand what you're saying but that is kind of the same attitude that got us into this mess. You have to think ahead of the disaster, not sit around and wait to see what happens. Storms this season are inevitable, it makes sense to prepare NOW. Whatever that is....

i never said don't prepare, they are prepared. it takes 120 hours for them to clear out the containment vessels etc, there's nothing else they can do. are they going to aqnchor 3000 miles of boom? round up all the animals? shut off the oil? what?

to categorize my view as an attitude that got us into this mess is ridiculous and assuming.


feel free to list 1 thing, just 1, that they could do today that would contain more oil and/or prepare for a hurricane such that it would limit the damage.

[ProG]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

feel free to list 1 thing, just 1, that they could do today that would contain more oil and/or prepare for a hurricane such that it would limit the damage.

Well for one not blindly ignoring that toxic rain is a possibility and protecting crops and marshes inland that are not already covered in oil.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

We are fucked.

Ill be waiting for the conspiracy theorist to say this is weather control by China.

No no no, gvt made it happen on purpose: it's to convince you that ecology (the new communism) is good for you and that consumerism (and China) is now a bad thing (anyway there is no money left, so you have to think so).
More China will become powerful, and more you have to think that environMENTALISM is good.

Repeat with me...

"More China ... and more ... is good for me!"

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by ProG

Well for one not blindly ignoring that toxic rain is a possibility and protecting crops and marshes inland that are not already covered in oil.

feel free to come up with a way to do those things because as it stands, there ain't.

maybe we can get a big ass plastic tarp and cover the south with it. nail it down real good with some stakes.

sarcasm aside, the part you are missing is there is no contingency plan. there is nothing better available to sop up the oil than what is happening now. put every amercian and brit in a hazmat suit and sponge up the gulf coast and that still wouldn't stop things.

there wasn't a plan in place in case of a gusher and there certainly isn't for a gusher + hurricane. that IS the problem. can't just snap your fingers and make it so. even in light of a storm.

[ProG]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

feel free to come up with a way to do those things because as it stands, there ain't.

maybe we can get a big ass plastic tarp and cover the south with it. nail it down real good with some stakes.

sarcasm aside, the part you are missing is there is no contingency plan. there is nothing better available to sop up the oil than what is happening now. put every amercian and brit in a hazmat suit and sponge up the gulf coast and that still wouldn't stop things.

there wasn't a plan in place in case of a gusher and there certainly isn't for a gusher + hurricane. that IS the problem. can't just snap your fingers and make it so. even in light of a storm.

yeah man I agree... I didn't claim to have all the answers. The thing that bothers me is we are still using the same failed tactics from 30+ years ago. I feel we are smarter than this...

[mattz]

where do u get that 80%? lol

It says:

THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...20
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

[ProG]

Originally Posted by mattz

where do u get that 80%? lol

The 80% one is now 100% and officially a tropical depression.

[dyna mo]

projected path looks hopeful for missing the clusterfuck

[baddog]

[Davy]

Put you oilskin on, people in the South US!