Profiling is always defended as "for the greater good". Doesn't make it right, and if you were on the receiving end of the profiling, you'd be saying the same thing.

It is for the greeter good, even for the people being stopped and checked that did nothing wrong. Does it make it right? I guess that depends on how uptight the person is that is being stopped. If they have a "fuck the police you can't stop me with out cause attitude" then i guess you think it isn't right. If you can see that it isn't anything personal to you, that they are just trying to help you then you can understand that a couple minutes of your time is better for your overall safety. Do you want to live in lala land or do you want results with the least intrusive means necessary?

Do you want to prevent crime or live with it. I don't think anyone can disagree that profiling (aka using statistics to see what demographic is committing the most crimes in a particular area and actively checking them) is an effective and proactive way to prevent crime and it produces results. Almost all other crime prevention is reactive, the police showing up after the crime and then investigating trying to catch the people who did it. I would rather have a lot less crime and be checked from time to time vs being a victim of crime because people had a chip on their shoulder and didn't want to be stopped by the police. People always bitch about crime being high but the handcuff the police from being able to prevent it. People hate the cops until they need them.

I have no problem what so ever being stopped and checked by profiling. To a certain extent it happens with DWI checkpoints. They check late at night and more often then not flagged the younger looking people going through them. That is profiling. I've had to go through more than my fair share of them and was GREATFULL that the cops were out there taking the drunks off of the road because the more they took off the road the less chances I had of one of them hitting and killing me.

If there was a lot of theft/crime in a particular area I would have no problem with them stopping me if I fit the profile. I am doing nothing wrong, have nothing to hide. I am not a dumb ass and can see what they are doing is helping me, so I have no problem taking a couple minutes of my time to show them I am not one of the bad guys, so they can actually catch the bad guys BEFORE they commit a crime and get them off the streets.



I majored in criminal justice in college. I am well aware how profiling, using statistical data, law enforcement works etc...

What about you, where do you live, are you mexican, do you just hate the police, or are you a bleeding heart liberal who thinks the govt/police should leave us the fuck alone ?

I guess I'm "uptight" then because no, the police can't just stop people for no reason. And it is personal. It's about as personal as it can get in fact. I don't need or want the police to hold my hand while I cross the street through life. They need to do their job and stop trying to "save us" from ourselves or the [______] people.

Yes, I too would like to prevent crime. If profiling prevents all this crime you're talking about, then why is there still crime? And why haven't the profiling efforts of the hate groups ever worked? If you want to give up your rights and bend over for the police, you're welcome to do so. But not me.

Flagging down potential drunk drivers at checkpoints on a holiday weekend is not even remotely close to signing a bill into law giving the police the authority to legally profile Mexicans. And I too am grateful for police efforts to remove drunk drivers from our roads.

See my second comment above.


I live in Central / Bay Area California.
I am not Mexican.
I do not hate the police.
I am not a bleeding heart liberal.
Yes, the police should leave us the fuck alone. When I need them, I will call them. Until then, they need to get off my proverbial back. Immigration is not the business of the police. If the police want to start taking over Federal roles, then they need to cowboy up and start shipping a few of their officers over to do tours of Iraq and Afghanistan too.

No? Is that asking too much? The police can't do their jobs properly half the time as it is. This law doesn't keep illegals from coming in. It solves nothing. It may even qualify as the very first actual Hate Legislation. Designed purely to hunt down and round up Hispanics.

Police must profile to do their job properly. Anyone who has a problem with showing identification to a cop is a real asshole.