I think this is a pretty good point. We are spending billions and billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars on our countries "safety" over in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the countless other military bases we have around the world. And yet all it would really take is a coyote and a couple bucks.

DHS should be more upset about this. I have no idea why they aren't.

illegals just need to go the fuck home and they should be shipped back the second they are caught. Obey the fucking laws. If you want to come to this country great, do it legally. What type of pattern is this setting, someone new to the country has no regard to our laws and breaking them from day 1. Why can't they do it legally??? Why is everyone sympathetic to illegals?

The rest of us pay taxes obey the laws etc. If you want to live here then do it right. I wish they would round up all of the law breakers and ship their asses back and tell them that they have to do it right. Or we could do like Mexico does to the illegals who enter their country in the south from central america, they put them in jails, beat, torture and kill them. What do the bleeding heart liberals do in the US... try to give them free health care and citizen ship and rewarding them for breaking the laws. Just like we reward most people in poverty for being irresponsible and we reward people who can't afford to have 1 kid for having 10 kids.

This country will continue to fall apart until people man the fuck up and everyone does their share, and everyone is held accountable, instead of a group of fucking liberals feeling sorry for everyone and trying to reward irresponsibility, incompetency and stupidity with OUR tax dollars because they want to make themselves feel important and better about themselves.

irresponsibility is the root to all problems and rewarding people for their irresponsibly behavior is the nail in the coffin to our own demise.

No offense man but I dont wan a kidnapping every 30something hours :Oh crap

No, you're a poor state because of your corrupt money grabbing politicians and the worst recession in the history of the nation.

You make illegals your scapegoat because it's convenient to wag a finger and say
"Yes its them, they made our state this way!" When in reality for decades your own local government could have done something about it, but instead chose to line their pockets.

so basically a state is trying to defend it's resources from invasion from a foreign country, because the Federal government won't, and now the Federal government is going to sue that state for protecting it's borders from invasion.. did I miss anything?

anyone already getting his guns ready?

yeah, all the sympathetic people who don't want us to do anything mean to the illegals, leave them alone, not make them pay taxes and give them free health care, don't make them learn english, and oh... god forbid you stop and ask them to show documentation to see if they should be here.

I agree with you 100%.

But that has nothing to do with Arizona's law.

Yes, you did miss something. Something very important. Here it is:

Arizona's law isn't "defending the border" from illegals.
What it is doing is profiling hispanics already there.

Imagine say if you could round up and deport 50% of all illegals in AZ over the next 10 years. Is that "protecting the border"? No. Is it stopping more from coming in? No. Does it serve as a deterrant? No.

It must be challenged in court. It's a civil rights issue.

Why do people keep using this child's photograph on this porno site.

Is it possible to make your point without involving photographs of children?

I agree with you. Photos of children have no business here in any way.

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Why do people keep use this child's photograph on this porno site.

Is it possible to make your point without involving photographs of children?


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ready mine are loaded and cleaned regularly. :winkwink:

Oh, I know why people keep using it :

Because it's racist to keep using it.

The "Holy Grail" of illegal immigration is to get your illegal and pregnant wife to drop her load on US soil. We should change that law as well and not make American citizenship automatic for illegal parents.

Some people feel that way, and you know.. whatever. That's their / your point of view. But that's the way it's been decreed from on high, and Arizona can't take it upon themselves to violate that. If they try to pass that anchor baby bill, that will go to court and be shut down as well. If you feel the law should be changed, it's one that has to change from the top. And I don't see that one going through. :2 cents:

Yeah, that sounds nice but in our current political climate, it is completely impossible. No republican will ever vote for any kind of bill that allows the illegals to become legal and thanks to Faux news and its ilk, no politician can deviate from the hard right party line. Those bloggers and nutjob news channels have made partisanship impossible. The best thing we could do would be ban 24-hour news channels, talk radio and bloggers. Of course, I know that would be unconstitutional. But the world was a better place before all that shit came to be. I know - I was there.

Why was this stupid law even implemented in the first place?

because you're all immigrants?

AZ has always been pretty poor. :2 cents:

The Fourteenth Amendment was to provide citizenship the children of slaves but then used as a loophole by illegals.

Sssshhhhh! Never reveal the truth!

someone on this board posted about 'operation wetback', something in the 50s that resulted in 50k people be deported, and 700k leaving voluntarily

before that, you had the 'mexican repatriation' ' which had 35k people deported, and 47k were 'voluntarily repatriated', and 400k leaving voluntarily

so if you wanted numbers..

Ah well.... no one should be surprised by this anyway. None of the media are surprised. Everyone knew it was coming. It's funny though, now the Gov of AZ is acting like she's all pissed off because nobody called her and she found out from Clinton saying it in an interview in Ecuador on TV. I can understand why she would be upset about that, but I don't know why she would make a public issue of it. It doesn't help her to tell everyone she's pissed about it.

Because without the law I could challenge you about your citizenship since you
don't look like a native American. You look like a white person from a foreign place
known as Europe.

:pimp

What the fuck are you smoking?!?

Not me.

I was born in the USA from parents that were born in the USA who's parents were born in the USA.....

I'm not sure how tying up something in court for 10 years is "dropping the hammer". Even if Arizona gets the OK from the Surpreme Court byt he time they rule hispanics will be the majority and the law will be repealed.

I'm smoking the reality that a bunch of people came from Europe and now think
that non-European looking people are not native to America.

:1orglaugh

Nice racism. If Arizona's problem was illegal CANADIANS this law wouldn't even be passed and you'd be ok with "illegals" everywhere. And that's the problem with this law.

A Mexican is in fact a Native American.

LOL! @ how racist shit with power can distort reality and make us all ignorant.

Troll hard.

Not in the context of the law he isn't.


Your contention is that Canadians are Americans, Panamanians are Americans, anyone on this side of the Atlantic is an American?

Because she's a fucking twit.

Native and legal are 2 different things...

like i told you before education is the key. they lack it. do you even live in Arizona?

Woot woot hillbilly bob!


Take your raggedy ass back to Europe and stink their towns up for a while, ok!

:1orglaugh

Is there anyone here who can translate crackhead into english?

This is what happens when the federal government does not do their job, the states do theirs.

Let Arizona do what they need to do since the government is unable to secure the borders.

Who made this law?

Was the law made by some people who thought they had the devine right to
exploit non-white people?

Hmmmmmm?????