:thumbsup pretty much how I read it

Quoted For Truth. Another sketchy sponsor bites it. Good.

partially right

not being able to pay revshare part i don't agree with you

that's the easiest thing ever to do (ie look at all the ccbill revshare sponsors)

I think you hit the nail on the head tho about not being able to convert & retain with old sites and generic content though.

IMO it could be done but it's just not as lucrative as it once was. so not worth the time or hassle of dealing with afiliates and the costs that come with that, plus having to start shooting some new content and new niches, etc etc

I'm sure Hooper has made his porn fortune by now anyways.

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What a bunch of dicks.

There's no excuse for not paying rebills to your affiliates (whether this is the case with them or not, I don't know, I have no business with them. I am just going by what others have insinuated.) if you are still processing them. No excuse. If you pocket the money, you're a scumbag and I hope a pissed affiliate finds your personal information and spreads it along with how you ripped them off all over the internet as well as your hometown so you can't even open up a mainstream program or a physical business without being shit on. I know there's no way I'd just roll over if someone took off with my cash in that way. :2 cents:

I didn't say they couldn't pay the rebills. I'm saying they don't see any future in it for them, and see no reason to pay out even one more dollar from it. And no, I'm not saying it's "right". But businesses do that kind of shit all the time.

Just watching the local news here in Vegas and the Norwalk furniture store where I got some of my furniture here in Vegas...shut it's doors and left about a dozen people screwed. They showed this one woman who had ordered $2600 worth of furniture a few months ago, and they just closed up shop and kept her money.

Unfortunately, shit like that happens all the time. :(

bingo....

thats fraud. The women likely paid with a credit card and can charge it back. Affiliates can't do that. Any company not continuing to pay out on revshare is fraud pure and simple and should be reported to the AG in that state, if they are in the US. I would throw them under the bus personally as well if any company pulled that shit with me on revshare.

nice... I just learned how to fold

Because they didn't "rebill" they did cross sales.. No one would rebill on shit sites like those..at least not on purpose.

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I know it's hard to grasp, but if the affiliate program is willing to fuck his own customers in the ass and essentially steal money from them, do you really think they will in turn give a second thought to not paying affiliates?

That's part of the reason why I never personally did any business with them in the first place... well that and the name of the program alone.

We're still here, and making moves. Now is the time to promote some real content and not the typical crap you see everywhere else.
duke

Wasn't the FBI investigating them?

Devilbucks is still here and standing strong

Remember, they helped Nats get a buncha money with the whole porngraph ...

no shit, what a bunch of douchebags to post that nonsense :2 cents:

Yep. That hits the nail on the head.

Let's hope most people notice this and remove their links and kill all their fhg.

They were barely a real adult program to begin with, their big affiliates were SE spammers, mailers, toolbar guys, etc... Most their joins went through a generic join page that the affiliates would embed in their own site. Sometimes the tours with quickbuck join pages weren't even adult in nature, or promised rapidshare downloads, ebooks etc... They just monetized credit cards, versus running real porn sites.

They won't be missed, at least not to real affiliates with adult traffic selling paysite memberships.

they are missed over at blackhatworld.

You just described a lot of programs :(

I'd like to see this business get back to the hands-on folks shooting their own stuff and that have a love for the business. The majority of the bigger programs are owned by guys playing a numbers game that could care less about "porn" and not only do nothing creative...but they have never even been on a porn shoot and have never surfed their own sites.

QuickBuck is not accepting new affiliates, yeah.

Damn, the last sentence says it all.

There should be a sticky post here or a page dedicated to sites that have folded within the year

The companies that are shutting down are NOT porn companies...they are billing companies that just happen to use porn as the product. You cant just switch to revshare. They're business model is free trial / good throughput.

Its apples and oranges

Yea exactly and how "QUICK" people forget where these bros all started and what they did to get where they are today..

Always bad to hear such a news :|

Please elaborate?

:thumbsup to that sir.

Pornograph was a adult free counter that many webmasters used on galleries, TGP's ect.. It was owned by John Albright (the guy that owns NATS). He "claimed" he sold it but of course never said who he sold it to or offered up any proof that it was sold, or even transferred the domain to anyone else.

Whom ever this so call supposed new owner was that may or may not of still been John Albright in disguise, decided to make some quick bucks off everyone elses traffic.

"Whomever" this supposed mystery man in black was, decided to use the counter to force auto toolbar installs and who better to send this stolen traffic to, but Quick Bucks of course.

Quick Bucks also payed dumb as a rocks about whom ever the so called person was whom sent the traffic. If I remember right, he eventually slipped up at some point as said it was JA that still obviously owned the counter at the time of the installs.

Shortly after that, Nats was launched cementing in bro status for JA.

You can read about it here if you feel like it.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ght=pornograph

I guess it's more to do with JA but it was Quick Bucks that happily took the installs from traffic stolen from many of the very users on this forum, including myself.

the porn affiliate model is dead. if you are to stupid to know why and even dumber to ride it out you only have yourself to blame.

quickbuck is owned by jews also. do the math.

bingo ...

Interesting

Not really, It depends on what their terms and conditions were for that specific affiliate program. Does any one have a copy of it or a link to it?

Spanx!
Jack

Ah the old days.... :1orglaugh

http://www.xnations.com/picdump/cybexpo024ab.jpg

Interesting...thanks for the explanation. I guess I'm an honest webmaster just trying to sell memberships to his Paysites. LOL It's amazing how creative people can be when they want to scam you.

Not surprising.

Thanks for elaborating. Very interesting info.