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Old 06-01-2010, 12:51 PM   #451
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Your talking about the Contiguous zone - according to international law. However, this is commonly extended to a minimum of twenty-four miles, and in some cases can be pretty much be anything the host country so decides. You know, because when dealing with international laws, you want to be as fucking vague as possible.

Seems to me that in this area the zone is anything the host country so decides. I tried to find something specific to Israel, but of course I couldn't.
This is pretty much it.

The activist attacked the Israeli soldiers whom were trying to board the vessels after being warned to turn around. If activist would have tried to get into Iraq while the US had an embargo we would have done the same thing.

Adding to this you can clearly see the so call peaceful activist were attacking the soldiers from the moment they landed on the deck. Hell they are even seen throwing a soldier off the side of the ship. That is grounds to be shot at IMO. I know I'd start shooting if I was in that position.

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is this any different?

Israeli's celebrating attack on ship?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6a3_1275348204
Hmmm... One is celebrating the death of 2,000 people via terrorism attack. One is responding to breaking the blockade. Mayabong, are you accidentally stupid or did you learn intensely?
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This is pretty much it.

The activist attacked the Israeli soldiers whom were trying to board the vessels after being warned to turn around. If activist would have tried to get into Iraq while the US had an embargo we would have done the same thing.

Adding to this you can clearly see the so call peaceful activist were attacking the soldiers from the moment they landed on the deck. Hell they are even seen throwing a soldier off the side of the ship. That is grounds to be shot at IMO. I know I'd start shooting if I was in that position.
You're wasting your time. Like I said, these morons have no concept of common sense or reality, so they'll continue claiming "THEY KILLED INNOCENTS" disregarding the blockade or international water rules, etc. It's a broken record and I continue to follow it only for my amusement. I've never seen so many incompetent grown men.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100601/..._turkey_israel

Like I said, nothing is going to change. Turkey will admit its mistake and move on.
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Hmmm... One is celebrating the death of 2,000 people via terrorism attack. One is responding to breaking the blockade. Mayabong, are you accidentally stupid or did you learn intensely?
3000 get your propaganda right.
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3000 get your propaganda right.
Yup. Total propaganda. Says the guy who denied the holocaust and claimed 9/11 was an inside job. You're hilarious mayabong. It really makes me wonder how much drugs you've done in your lifetime.
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Hmmm... One is celebrating the death of 2,000 people via terrorism attack. One is responding to breaking the blockade. Mayabong, are you accidentally stupid or did you learn intensely?
When are you just going to shut up? People that you agree with don't even acknowledge you. Your judgements are so one sided that it is pathetic. Why do I have to read interesting conversations going back and forth from both sides only to be interrupted with your bullshit?

For the sake of everyone involved, do us and yourself a favor and just leave. You make yourself look like an ass with each post. Even in cases when I am on the same side of the fence as you are (I'm not talking about this topic in particular) it is embarrassing to admit. For every point you try and make you shoot yourself in the foot by opening your mouth. Or in this case by hitting the keyboard.

Shut the fuck up. I read 3 extra pages of this conversation and wasted I don't know how much time because of your shit.
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gimme a break israel is a terrorist state. only those who live there and those brainwashed by the western media think different.
illogical. CNN, BBC etc have arab channels, with arabs' points of view.

What about Israeli channels? No commercial interests, just 5-7 million residents, no oil etc, comparing to 500,000,000 arabs.
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When are you just going to shut up? People that you agree with don't even acknowledge you. Your judgements are so one sided that it is pathetic. Why do I have to read interesting conversations going back and forth from both sides only to be interrupted with your bullshit?

For the sake of everyone involved, do us and yourself a favor and just leave. You make yourself look like an ass with each post. Even in cases when I am on the same side of the fence as you are (I'm not talking about this topic in particular) it is embarrassing to admit. For every point you try and make you shoot yourself in the foot by opening your mouth. Or in this case by hitting the keyboard.

Shut the fuck up. I read 3 extra pages of this conversation and wasted I don't know how much time because of your shit.

Hmmm. Boo hoo? I'm glad you were able to form coherent sentences. That's about all you have going for you, dumbass. Also, look at the bolded text again and quit lying to yourself, it makes you look dumber than you actually are. Please keep bitching.
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gimme a break israel is a terrorist state. only those who live there and those brainwashed by the western media think different.
HAHAHAHAH love this logic.

"Liberals are stupid, only those brainwashed by the liberal media think otherwise!".
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Rochard, their knowledge based on commercials, TV, conspiracy theories, UN bordello, International laws, International community and other shit created for them

The world of strategies focused on gaining Power, the big game, Realpolitik - the first rule of politics for politicians. It's immoral ;)

(The term by Ludwig von Rochau, 19th century, Germany)

Consider just Power, not your pure ideals, morals, principles. Weak should die. Animal world.

Nowdays turks kill Kurds, by bombing their villages... and who cares? Fuck it, It's not on TV! News corporations see no commercial interest going to Kurdistan...

Now, same time, Turkey supports flotilia "free Gaza" (with a thousand man for TV, no food), and becomes biggest regional Player! (what about Kurdistan, Armenians etc?)

Send them to free Darfur they won't go No TV, no Romantics, no Power

Rochard, u discuss with these pure/average idiots (stupid naive majority) full of hate created by commercial media. It's not your league Your knowledge is much richer, based on facts.

With all its sadness, I see it Positive. Some smart men who see the reality convert it into personal profits ;) More idiots with lack of worldly wisdom we have, better for us ;)

Manipulate them, give them what they want, that shit to eat and they will pay you!
i'm sorry, are you saying this ship was not in international waters, and people haven't been killed?
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All starting to make sense. Turkey and Brasil made a deal with Iran to purchase Irans enriched uranium. This destroys US and Israels excuse to go into Iran. So Israel attacks the Turkish portion of the flotilla to ignite a standoff with Turkey so this can be used as the excuse to shut down the deal and/or bring the US in whatever is the end result.
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Or Turkey provokes an Israeli attack to discredit Israel.
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Gaza is not to be confused with the ancient pyramids of Giza. Ancient Egyptians invented the invention of the ship by sea.
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i'm sorry, are you saying this ship was not in international waters, and people haven't been killed?
Read It.
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All starting to make sense. Turkey and Brasil made a deal with Iran to purchase Irans enriched uranium. This destroys US and Israels excuse to go into Iran. So Israel attacks the Turkish portion of the flotilla to ignite a standoff with Turkey so this can be used as the excuse to shut down the deal and/or bring the US in whatever is the end result.
"By means of deception, thou shalt wage war"
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Israeli Knesset Member: Israel Wanted High Number Of Fatalities

A member of the Israeli Knesset, the legislative branch of the Israeli government, who was on board the Marmara ship when it was ambushed by IDF troops, has told reporters that the intention of the raid was to kill as many on board as they could in order to ward off others from attempting to reach Gaza by sea.

Hanin Zoabi, who currently serves as a member of the Knesset representing the Balad party, made the following comments at a press gathering today:

“It was clear from the size of the force that boarded the ship that the purpose was not only to stop this sail, but to cause the largest possible number of fatalities in order to stop such initiatives in the future.”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/israeli-...atalities.html
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Yea, totally, "the people" is one guy with a sign. Way to prove your point.. Oh wait.
Yeah, because you can't find 100's of protest signs like this on both sides of the fence.

I will let you get back to pretending you're a Jew now.
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Well see this is where you are wrong. Because I have been there 2x. I was there in 1988 and went from Thessalonika Greece via Belgrade to Austria (7 days) when it was called Yugoslavia. I also spent a month in Croatia this last summer.

In truth, I can honestly careless what happened there or your/their struggle. Why? because it has ZERO impact on my life and there is NOTHING I could do about if there were. In short, it's a waste of time. I have also spend a significant amount of time in Eastern Europe and had MANY of these same distorted political views/conversations about Americans and our politics.

This is what I've learned. You can beat someone over the head with facts (in your neck of the woods) and they will never concede and inch to continue the flow of the conversation. Or they throw in completely irrelevant information to trip up anything relative to try and discredit your opinion. Kind of like having an argument with your ex on her period. So what have I learned? ... I now understand why the cold-war lasted so long and people like you need to be on their knees to consider an opposing opinion.
So you were, there 10 years before war started there and that's how you are making your opinion? One thing is sure , no one would change mind to another part like just you said, and that's probably exactly why Israleis did what they did since it would be pointless to try to prove their point of view (personally,I know how weapons was smuggled in Kosovo and Bosnia within humanitarian help , and Israel probably know this very well). At the end, there must be some interest to involve in someone's conflict , i just hope you can at least agree with this (although you say USA have no interest in Kosovo - why there is biggest military base in Balkans?). My opinion is that any of us shouldn't involve too much into Israel and Palestina conflict (fact that both of them didn't reckognize Kosovo as new country will say enough about Kosovo as american project and complete idea .)
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Yeah, because you can't find 100's of protest signs like this on both sides of the fence.

I will let you get back to pretending you're a Jew now.
Anyone understand the stupidity of this post? His initial post makes it seem that the Jews are at fault, and the majority of Jews want it to stop. Now apparently it's "both sides of the fence"? Your stupidity knows no bounds.
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LOL. Yet another priceless and completely unrealistic post by TheDoc.
I'm sorry you are just so shockingly stupid that I have to instruct your stupidness (TheDemon) to go see what % of Israel's GDP is in blood diamonds.
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I'm sorry you are just so shockingly stupid that I have to instruct your stupidness (TheDemon) to go see what % of Israel's GDP is in blood diamonds.
1. This had nothing to do with ANYTHING posted earlier and could possibly be the stupidest thing posted here.

2. I'm looking at Israel's GDP from diamonds, and there's no conclusive proof where the diamonds come from. Furthermore, this has what to do with what exactly? You sir are a moron.


Edit: Btw, I was looking at exactly what this moron was talking about, and I found something interesting about the only articles written on it accusing Israel of anything resulting in "blood diamonds".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Electronic_Intifada

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i did. enjoy your animal planet
I love this Zoo.

Go to Darfur, help. 300,000+ killed (not just 9). I don't see you discussing it, blind man.
Go to Afghanistan, help. 35,000+ killed
Go to Iraq, help. 100,000+ killed, raped etc

Their families watch it all now... and wondering what's the fucking difference between their children and those 9 on a boat?? What's wrong with their raped daughters??

Cynicism rules your fucking world!
I fuck this world!

You keep dreaming naive idealist.
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Anyone understand the stupidity of this post? His initial post makes it seem that the Jews are at fault, and the majority of Jews want it to stop. Now apparently it's "both sides of the fence"? Your stupidity knows no bounds.
Not like anyone is going to answer you...

I wasn't the moron that said only one guy wanted it to stop, you did. And "the people" do want it to stop, just like the other side wants it to stop. Thanks for proving my point though... maybe one day you could actually post something that proves me wrong.... HA!


Again, I will let you get back to pretending that you're a Jew now.
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Israeli Knesset Member: Israel Wanted High Number Of Fatalities

A member of the Israeli Knesset, the legislative branch of the Israeli government, who was on board the Marmara ship when it was ambushed by IDF troops, has told reporters that the intention of the raid was to kill as many on board as they could in order to ward off others from attempting to reach Gaza by sea.

Hanin Zoabi, who currently serves as a member of the Knesset representing the Balad party, made the following comments at a press gathering today:

?It was clear from the size of the force that boarded the ship that the purpose was not only to stop this sail, but to cause the largest possible number of fatalities in order to stop such initiatives in the future.?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/israeli-...atalities.html
As far as I know, Hanin Zoabi is a palestinian who represents palestinian minory in Israeli parliament. Democracy.
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Not like anyone is going to answer you...

I wasn't the moron that said only one guy wanted it to stop, you did. And "the people" do want it to stop, just like the other side wants it to stop. Thanks for proving my point though... maybe one day you could actually post something that proves me wrong.... HA!


Again, I will let you get back to pretending that you're a Jew now.
It is ironic how I'm the only guy that ever responds to your posts. It's funny when someone incredibly devoid of intelligence posts random bullshit, and then screams "prove me wrong", like a mentally handicapped child. Thanks for amusing us as usual
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It is ironic how I'm the only guy that ever responds to your posts. It's funny when someone incredibly devoid of intelligence posts random bullshit, and then screams "prove me wrong", like a mentally handicapped child. Thanks for amusing us as usual
Haha... sure, whatever your nobody ass wants to think.

As we can see in this huge thread - page after page (on every page you posted on) only YOU call people names and ONLY YOU get called stupid, moron, shit stain, etc, etc, etc, etc..

Out of everyone that has posted in this thread - you're the only shit stain fucking it up.

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It seems you failed at proving anything.... other than you're a nobody with a mouth, as usual.
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Haha... sure, whatever your nobody ass wants to think.

As we can see in this huge thread - page after page (on every page you posted on) only YOU call people names and ONLY YOU get called stupid, moron, shit stain, etc, etc, etc, etc..

Out of everyone that has posted in this thread - you're the only shit stain fucking it up.



It seems you failed at proving anything.... other than you're a nobody with a mouth, as usual.
Ahh, to be the laughing stock of GFY, stupid, and completely delusional. TheDoc has us all beat.
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This thread is almost as good as the DirtyD thread.

Keep up the good work.
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In truth, I can honestly careless what happened there or your/their struggle. Why? because it has ZERO impact on my life
You do realise when you say that you could care less, it means that you must care, that could be a lot or a little, but you do care. In fact by stating you could care less, this could in fact be the thing you care most about in the world, this could be the thing that is more important to you than anything else. It means you do care about this

If you say that you couldn't care less, it would mean you dont care at all, you care zero, this is of no importance to you.

But you didn't, so you do care about his opinion, as you stated

Not very bright are you?
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You do realise when you say that you could care less, it means that you must care, that could be a lot or a little, but you do care. In fact by stating you could care less, this could in fact be the thing you care most about in the world, this could be the thing that is more important to you than anything else. It means you do care about this

If you say that you couldn't care less, it would mean you dont care at all, you care zero, this is of no importance to you.

But you didn't, so you do care about his opinion, as you stated

Not very bright are you?
That's a little nit picking but yes, that is valid.
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I love this Zoo.

Go to Darfur, help. 300,000+ killed (not just 9). I don't see you discussing it, blind man.
Go to Afghanistan, help. 35,000+ killed
Go to Iraq, help. 100,000+ killed, raped etc

Their families watch it all now... and wondering what's the fucking difference between their children and those 9 on a boat?? What's wrong with their raped daughters??

Cynicism rules your fucking world!
I fuck this world!

You keep dreaming naive idealist.
i'm not living in a cloud of assumption, i only accept the necessary realities of that fact.

so be wary about who you call blind, whilst residing in the 'zoo'

i would think of myself as a general realist, for i understand situations need to occur, things need to 'boil', if you will, in order to take steps to rectify wrongs
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Here's the deal. We can now NUKE the MIDDLE EAST cause even the Jews fucked up!
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Old 06-01-2010, 02:35 PM   #487
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Ahh, to be the laughing stock of GFY, stupid, and completely delusional. TheDoc has us all beat.
Yep, this is about everyone - that's why I replied to everyone!

Btw, is this your attack when you have nothing to attack with? You have repeated this same trash to several people in this thread. It's a bit sad, but more pathetic and lame than anything.

Now I will really let you get back to pretending you're a Jew boy.
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Old 06-01-2010, 02:37 PM   #488
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That's a little nit picking but yes, that is valid.
Not really nit picking. His argument that he doesn't care is by stating quite clearly that he cares. We don't know how much he cares, he could care a little or he could care a lot. But he does care. He said so. "He could care less", so he must care

he cares about his opinion

Where as I couldn't care less, that means I don't care at all, I care so little that it is not possible for me to care less, because I could not care less. My caring is at zero, my caring is so low it is not possible for me to care less.

English, it's very easy to understand.
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Old 06-01-2010, 02:38 PM   #489
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idea.

Since just few cares about many in Darfur and many cares about few in Gaza, so Israelis & Palestinians should refuse to negotiate without solving Darfur's problem same time (in parallel)

Both sides can bring more attention to really suffering ppl, to the main issue.
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Holy shit is there 50 bucks at every 100th post on this thread

Once again, very cut and dry.

Israel attacks an already searched and cleared aid ship in international waters.

They kill people.

Israeli govt is culpable.

End of Thread.

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Old 06-01-2010, 02:40 PM   #491
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Holy shit is there 50 bucks at every 100th post on this thread

Once again, very cut and dry.

Israel attacks an already searched and cleared aid ship in international waters.

They kill people.

Israeli govt is culpable.

End of Thread.

p.s. wheres my 50 bucks
You only get 50 bucks if you were a kike on the ship they attacked
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Not really nit picking. His argument that he doesn't care is by stating quite clearly that he cares. We don't know how much he cares, he could care a little or he could care a lot. But he does care. He said so. "He could care less", so he must care

he cares about his opinion

Where as I couldn't care less, that means I don't care at all, I care so little that it is not possible for me to care less, because I could not care less. My caring is at zero, my caring is so low it is not possible for me to care less.

English, it's very easy to understand.
No, I told you it was valid. I said nit picking because the majority of people on this forum can barely speak intelligible English, let alone type it. So you would be wasting your time.
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Old 06-01-2010, 02:45 PM   #493
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Not really nit picking. His argument that he doesn't care is by stating quite clearly that he cares. We don't know how much he cares, he could care a little or he could care a lot. But he does care. He said so. "He could care less", so he must care

he cares about his opinion

Where as I couldn't care less, that means I don't care at all, I care so little that it is not possible for me to care less, because I could not care less. My caring is at zero, my caring is so low it is not possible for me to care less.

English, it's very easy to understand.
What are you, some nigga kike bastard who thinks anything is justified against the enemy?
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No, I told you it was valid. I said nit picking because the majority of people on this forum can barely speak intelligible English, let alone type it. So you would be wasting your time.
fair enough ;)

I could'nt care less anyway
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What are you, some nigga kike bastard who thinks anything is justified against the enemy?
Yes clearly. When I pointed out the difference between could and couldn't I was obviously showing people that I am a nigga kike bastard who thinks anything is justified against the enemy?

Very insightful
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Holy shit is there 50 bucks at every 100th post on this thread

Once again, very cut and dry.

Israel attacks an already searched and cleared aid ship in international waters.

They kill people.

Israeli govt is culpable.

End of Thread.

p.s. wheres my 50 bucks
very cut and dry but from just your point of view, right?
Let me correct it.

Searched by Turks, who orginized it all ;)
Not sure about International Waters issue.
Turks planned to kill Israelis, Israelis defended and killed Turks.

Westerns have right to kill Afghans, Israelis Turks.
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Yes clearly. When I pointed out the difference between could and couldn't I was obviously showing people that I am a nigga kike bastard who thinks anything is justified against the enemy?

Very insightful
Told you lol
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Yes clearly. When I pointed out the difference between could and couldn't I was obviously showing people that I am a nigga kike bastard who thinks anything is justified against the enemy?

Very insightful
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very cut and dry but from just your point of view, right?
Let me correct it.

Searched by Turks, who orginized it all ;)
Not sure about International Waters issue.
Turks planned to kill Israelis, Israelis defended and killed Turks.

Westerns have right to kill Afghans, Israelis Turks.
Glen Beck is not your friend. I have stated the facts, you are creating conspiracies, second guessing etc to fit with your agenda.

I have nothing against the israeli people, this is simply the actual, factual news as it has been reported a million times now across a broad range of news outlets.

You not being "sure about the international waters issue" does nothing to bolster your argument, rather it does alot to negate it.

I will be here thru post 601 which i will land and then claim my 50 semolians.
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