What I'm doing wrong, help please - GoFuckYourself.com

matulo · 12-31-2002, 06:38 AM

Hi, I've jumped into adult biz with both feet and started a payste from a scratch. I think, our webdesign is nice. I made some galleries, posted to tgps, had more than 2000 visitors in 1-2 days, but no sign-up yet. Please can you recommend me what do improve or tell me what I'm doing wrong ?

Here is the site: www.bizarre-amateurs.com

mrthumbs · 12-31-2002, 06:42 AM

basicly: wipe your mind and visit your site:

do you see ANYTHING that motivates you to pull your creditcard?

greentea · 12-31-2002, 06:45 AM

Dump another 25K-50K + of traffic at, then come back and post.

These 2K hits were is it from tgps?

greentea · 12-31-2002, 06:57 AM

These girls dont look to amateurish, it dont fit..

just make it a bizarre site, i personally would not join this site.

matulo · 01-03-2003, 01:58 AM

ok, so what to improve or change ?

matulo

MonkeyMan · 01-03-2003, 02:01 AM

Maybe you designed it on a lower res machine...but everything seems a bit tiny to me and nothing really eye catching, And theres nothing bizzare about the amatures from what I can see.... besides the bananna.

Im new too and never ran a paysite.... but thats my take on it.

Plugger · 01-03-2003, 02:03 AM

You just have to keep plugging away at it, why do you think they call me Plugger?

It is because in the face of adversity, I just keep plugging away . . . or maybe it's that anal thing; I forget . . .

Zebra · 01-03-2003, 02:05 AM

Run away, don't walk, and never look back at the adult biz again.

[Labret] · 01-03-2003, 02:12 AM

I am the only person on here who is going to tell you the truth.

Leave. There is no money in straight amateur tgp gallery posting. Unless you are happy making beer money.

You fucked up, suck it up and move along. You believed the hype. Its ok, lots of these idiots bought into it.

Lethal · 01-03-2003, 02:22 AM

Your site is just shit. You obviously have a poor command of English and your site violates all the laws of the conversion process. It has no direction, no flow, and at no point do you give the surfer a decent reason to want to buy. I hope you didn't pay money for it. That pic of the chick with the leek is pretty funny though.

I would suggest quitting, or maybe suicide.

Forkbeard · 01-03-2003, 02:28 AM

It's pretty dull looking -- the colors aren't very bright or eyecatching. It more like a financial services site than a porn site.

Also, there's really nothing bizarre visible except that one girl with the leeks. And, um, that's been done, and the sickpuppy.com girls are a lot cuter than yours.

Bigger, brighter, tour pictures that show the surfer what he's getting. Text promises alone won't make the sale.

That's all from a porn consumer perspective; I don't own a paysite.

p1mpdogg · 01-03-2003, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
I am the only person on here who is going to tell you the truth.

Leave. There is no money in straight amateur tgp gallery posting. Unless you are happy making beer money.

You fucked up, suck it up and move along. You believed the hype. Its ok, lots of these idiots bought into it.

lol

ControlThy · 01-03-2003, 03:13 AM

You should never start in the adult online business with a paysite unless you have $ and know what to do.

BigCash.com: Your Gateway to Serious Bucks!
New Year's offer: send the most signups and receive a bonus upto 1000 USD!

SpaceAce · 01-03-2003, 03:57 AM

The design starts out nice but gets uglier and uglier as you go through the tour. You have thumbnails of all different sizes just thrown in all over the place and most of the thumbnails are way too small. You should try to make the thumbs a more uniform size or at least arrange them nicely around the text instead of just have text and thumbs jumbled together.

Also, you can't click on anything. You have all these model headshots and stuff, but they are not interactive. That was bugging the shit out of me. It's like you don't want me to be able to click on things. I have to run my mouse over everything because you use all these graphical links with no underlines and the thumbs have borders on them that make them look clickable, but they aren't. You should be able to click on a model's head and get a page about her that would link to a signup form.

I don't like the color scheme, but that may just be me. That orange-on-black always looks like a downer to me and I associate it with people's homepages and flash-heavy commercial sites.

Edit: One other thing, In Linux I have my monitor in 1024x768 and a lot of the text was really small and nearly unreadable on my 19" monitor. In Windows I run in 1600x1200. I'll bet it would be completely illegible at that resolution (not that a lot of surfers use 1600x1200, but plenty use 1024).

SpaceAce

RedShoe · 01-03-2003, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
I am the only person on here who is going to tell you the truth.

Leave. There is no money in straight amateur tgp gallery posting. Unless you are happy making beer money.

You fucked up, suck it up and move along. You believed the hype. Its ok, lots of these idiots bought into it.

BWAHAHAHA. I seriously think Labret is my alter ego. He posts what I often think. Except for all that racial stuff, oh and the stuff about the killings, and the guns, and the tattoos, other than that, we're identical. Also, he posts pics of himself, I do not.

I'm really not very pleasant on the eyes.

Lethal · 01-03-2003, 06:00 AM

You sound like you want to date him.

RedShoe · 01-03-2003, 06:08 AM

Pay me $1,250 US dollars, and exclusive rights to the content to use as I see fit.

In turn, I'll knock out a 2 page tour, and a sign up page. You will in turn, send me all your gay exit traffic. Deal? I'll create a page that as an exit offers gay, but I get that traffic. Smaller details will be worked out later.

You're design doesn't look very amateurish. It looks like you are pro amateurs. Dumb it down... A LOT. Take out all those single phrase descriptions, "I like bananas". Well, I like cashews, so what.

You're site is neither bizarre, nor very amateurish. The colors are too dark (in tone). More content up front... or at least bigger thumbs. Tell them to join, or these girls will starve and die. Sell them. Never think your shit is so good it will just magically sell itself.

oh, and rework your math in your sig. "240% satisfaction?" I think 100% is fine, no need to ever go more than 100%.

One thousand two hundred and fifty dollars. Paypal only. You get a better design, and in exchange for going so low on price, I get your gay exit traffic, from a console, and or a link on the tour.

This offer stands only while I'm still in a good mood.

RedShoe · 01-03-2003, 06:11 AM

oh.. and you might want to remove your produced by "XXXMedia"

I actually work for "TripleXMedia" that might not look too good if anyone else sees it up there.

Tipsy · 01-03-2003, 06:30 AM

It's more or less been said - simply shut it down. Seriously. Jumping straight in with a paysite is just plain daft. You know nothing about the business, traffic generation, how to convert.... the list goes on.

Start with the basics first and IF you manage to make money with them then maybe try it. That's a huge IF though.

sonomasnap · 01-03-2003, 08:06 AM

must concur with everyone and also say that cross niche promotion is tuff. Either go amateur or bizarre. If you go bizarre then make it fucking bizarre. If you go amateur then make it amateur. Finally, get someone to write your copy who actually speaks english.

Gary · 01-03-2003, 08:19 AM

Zayne E. · 01-03-2003, 08:22 AM

Loads slow as shit and doesn't look like an amateur site at all.

Jak · 01-03-2003, 11:01 AM

"These girls are driving wild us, and will be driving wild you."

You have no chance to survive make your time.

Jak

McAttack · 01-03-2003, 12:28 PM

Well, I won't tell you to get out of the biz. I'll give you some honest feedback.

- First of all 2000 uniques is NOTHING. It's peanuts.

- Secondly, the layout is very bad in my opinion. Right From the start, your age verification page shows stuff that kids can't see. You're asking to leave if you're not an adult, when you're showing a girl with some vegetable inside her. Strip clubs card you at the entrance, not when you're next to the stage. So you should have an age verification page before this, and keep it CLEAN. Put pictures, but nothing like nipples or snatch shots.

- It took me a while to find the Tour button. Off the main page, a user should be able to find the JOIN and TOUR buttons fast. You don't have a join button off the main page, only through the end of the tour. Avoid putting important stuff like that at the bottom of the page. Should be in the middle, larger than the rest and it should catch the eye. With these colors, use a large yellow font.

- The tour is bad. Can't click on anything, I can't see if you're giving me webcam shots or real pics. The pictures aren't enticing. And if you would entice me, I can't click join. I have to go through the rest of the tour.

A tour should work very simply. Here's a quick example of it.
Tour page 1
Look at this feature. I give you tons of videos. Do you want to join or continue tour?
Tour page 2
I bring you pictures of crazy chicks with vegetables, brooms, and handcuffs. Do you want to join or continue tour?
Tour page 3
I bring you live cams so you can chat with these crazy girls and ask them to perform whateer you want them to.
Join or continue?
Tour 4
I give you all that and here's some pictures of some of the girls we have inside.
JOIN NOW.

This way it's not confusing. Every page serves one purpose and then if the guy wants to join, he clicks in right away. If page 1 did the job, then don't make him click through 3 more pages to join, you remove the spontaneous reaction at that point.

I'd say it needs a complete redesign, change the word Bizarre to wild or crazy. Dirty girls, they're not "bizarre". Bizarre is vacuum pumps, and the real freaky stuff.

Also, have someone translate what you want to say. If you want to make an english site, make sure it's proper english.

Good luck man and if you got more Q's, ask me

12-31-2002, 06:38 AM	#1
matulo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 116	What I'm doing wrong, help please Hi, I've jumped into adult biz with both feet and started a payste from a scratch. I think, our webdesign is nice. I made some galleries, posted to tgps, had more than 2000 visitors in 1-2 days, but no sign-up yet. Please can you recommend me what do improve or tell me what I'm doing wrong ? Here is the site: www.bizarre-amateurs.com __________________ I don't give a shit.

12-31-2002, 06:45 AM	#3
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	Dump another 25K-50K + of traffic at, then come back and post. These 2K hits were is it from tgps? __________________ blunts

12-31-2002, 06:57 AM	#4
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	These girls dont look to amateurish, it dont fit.. just make it a bizarre site, i personally would not join this site. __________________ blunts

01-03-2003, 01:58 AM	#5
matulo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 116	ok, so what to improve or change ? matulo __________________ I don't give a shit.

01-03-2003, 02:05 AM	#8
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	Run away, don't walk, and never look back at the adult biz again. __________________ Old School

12-31-2002, 06:42 AM	#2
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	basicly: wipe your mind and visit your site: do you see ANYTHING that motivates you to pull your creditcard?

01-03-2003, 02:01 AM	#6
MonkeyMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New York.... Not the city... Up north further. Its about a six hour drive to the city from here. I don't like the city much. The air is not as clean, but they do have better strip clubs. Posts: 1,026	Maybe you designed it on a lower res machine...but everything seems a bit tiny to me and nothing really eye catching, And theres nothing bizzare about the amatures from what I can see.... besides the bananna. Im new too and never ran a paysite.... but thats my take on it.

01-03-2003, 02:03 AM	#7
Plugger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Coast Posts: 592	You just have to keep plugging away at it, why do you think they call me Plugger? It is because in the face of adversity, I just keep plugging away . . . or maybe it's that anal thing; I forget . . .

01-03-2003, 02:12 AM	#9
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	I am the only person on here who is going to tell you the truth. Leave. There is no money in straight amateur tgp gallery posting. Unless you are happy making beer money. You fucked up, suck it up and move along. You believed the hype. Its ok, lots of these idiots bought into it.

01-03-2003, 02:22 AM	#10
Lethal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 494	Your site is just shit. You obviously have a poor command of English and your site violates all the laws of the conversion process. It has no direction, no flow, and at no point do you give the surfer a decent reason to want to buy. I hope you didn't pay money for it. That pic of the chick with the leek is pretty funny though. I would suggest quitting, or maybe suicide.

01-03-2003, 02:28 AM	#11
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	It's pretty dull looking -- the colors aren't very bright or eyecatching. It more like a financial services site than a porn site. Also, there's really nothing bizarre visible except that one girl with the leeks. And, um, that's been done, and the sickpuppy.com girls are a lot cuter than yours. Bigger, brighter, tour pictures that show the surfer what he's getting. Text promises alone won't make the sale. That's all from a porn consumer perspective; I don't own a paysite. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

01-03-2003, 03:13 AM	#13
ControlThy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,909	You should never start in the adult online business with a paysite unless you have $ and know what to do. BigCash.com: Your Gateway to *Serious Bucks!* New Year's offer: send the most signups and receive a bonus upto 1000 USD!

01-03-2003, 03:57 AM	#14
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	The design starts out nice but gets uglier and uglier as you go through the tour. You have thumbnails of all different sizes just thrown in all over the place and most of the thumbnails are way too small. You should try to make the thumbs a more uniform size or at least arrange them nicely around the text instead of just have text and thumbs jumbled together. Also, you can't click on anything. You have all these model headshots and stuff, but they are not interactive. That was bugging the shit out of me. It's like you don't want me to be able to click on things. I have to run my mouse over everything because you use all these graphical links with no underlines and the thumbs have borders on them that make them look clickable, but they aren't. You should be able to click on a model's head and get a page about her that would link to a signup form. I don't like the color scheme, but that may just be me. That orange-on-black always looks like a downer to me and I associate it with people's homepages and flash-heavy commercial sites. Edit: One other thing, In Linux I have my monitor in 1024x768 and a lot of the text was really small and nearly unreadable on my 19" monitor. In Windows I run in 1600x1200. I'll bet it would be completely illegible at that resolution (not that a lot of surfers use 1600x1200, but plenty use 1024). SpaceAce Last edited by SpaceAce; 01-03-2003 at 04:00 AM..

01-03-2003, 06:00 AM	#16
Lethal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 494	You sound like you want to date him.

01-03-2003, 06:08 AM	#17
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	Pay me $1,250 US dollars, and exclusive rights to the content to use as I see fit. In turn, I'll knock out a 2 page tour, and a sign up page. You will in turn, send me all your gay exit traffic. Deal? I'll create a page that as an exit offers gay, but I get that traffic. Smaller details will be worked out later. You're design doesn't look very amateurish. It looks like you are pro amateurs. Dumb it down... A LOT. Take out all those single phrase descriptions, "I like bananas". Well, I like cashews, so what. You're site is neither bizarre, nor very amateurish. The colors are too dark (in tone). More content up front... or at least bigger thumbs. Tell them to join, or these girls will starve and die. Sell them. Never think your shit is so good it will just magically sell itself. oh, and rework your math in your sig. "240% satisfaction?" I think 100% is fine, no need to ever go more than 100%. One thousand two hundred and fifty dollars. Paypal only. You get a better design, and in exchange for going so low on price, I get your gay exit traffic, from a console, and or a link on the tour. This offer stands only while I'm still in a good mood. __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants

01-03-2003, 06:11 AM	#18
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	oh.. and you might want to remove your produced by "XXXMedia" I actually work for "TripleXMedia" that might not look too good if anyone else sees it up there. __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants

01-03-2003, 06:30 AM	#19
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	It's more or less been said - simply shut it down. Seriously. Jumping straight in with a paysite is just plain daft. You know nothing about the business, traffic generation, how to convert.... the list goes on. Start with the basics first and IF you manage to make money with them then maybe try it. That's a huge IF though. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

01-03-2003, 08:06 AM	#20
sonomasnap Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 410	must concur with everyone and also say that cross niche promotion is tuff. Either go amateur or bizarre. If you go bizarre then make it fucking bizarre. If you go amateur then make it amateur. Finally, get someone to write your copy who actually speaks english.

01-03-2003, 08:19 AM	#21
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	spam

01-03-2003, 08:22 AM	#22
Zayne E. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,383	Loads slow as shit and doesn't look like an amateur site at all.

01-03-2003, 11:01 AM	#23
Jak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ripenedpeach.com Posts: 1,143	"These girls are driving wild us, and will be driving wild you." You have no chance to survive make your time. Jak

01-03-2003, 12:28 PM	#24
McAttack Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 625	Well, I won't tell you to get out of the biz. I'll give you some honest feedback. - First of all 2000 uniques is NOTHING. It's peanuts. - Secondly, the layout is very bad in my opinion. Right From the start, your age verification page shows stuff that kids can't see. You're asking to leave if you're not an adult, when you're showing a girl with some vegetable inside her. Strip clubs card you at the entrance, not when you're next to the stage. So you should have an age verification page before this, and keep it CLEAN. Put pictures, but nothing like nipples or snatch shots. - It took me a while to find the Tour button. Off the main page, a user should be able to find the JOIN and TOUR buttons fast. You don't have a join button off the main page, only through the end of the tour. Avoid putting important stuff like that at the bottom of the page. Should be in the middle, larger than the rest and it should catch the eye. With these colors, use a large yellow font. - The tour is bad. Can't click on anything, I can't see if you're giving me webcam shots or real pics. The pictures aren't enticing. And if you would entice me, I can't click join. I have to go through the rest of the tour. A tour should work very simply. Here's a quick example of it. Tour page 1 Look at this feature. I give you tons of videos. Do you want to join or continue tour? Tour page 2 I bring you pictures of crazy chicks with vegetables, brooms, and handcuffs. Do you want to join or continue tour? Tour page 3 I bring you live cams so you can chat with these crazy girls and ask them to perform whateer you want them to. Join or continue? Tour 4 I give you all that and here's some pictures of some of the girls we have inside. JOIN NOW. This way it's not confusing. Every page serves one purpose and then if the guy wants to join, he clicks in right away. If page 1 did the job, then don't make him click through 3 more pages to join, you remove the spontaneous reaction at that point. I'd say it needs a complete redesign, change the word Bizarre to wild or crazy. Dirty girls, they're not "bizarre". Bizarre is vacuum pumps, and the real freaky stuff. Also, have someone translate what you want to say. If you want to make an english site, make sure it's proper english. Good luck man and if you got more Q's, ask me __________________ You know Teen Kelly converts like crazy.