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Hooper · 12-17-2002, 05:13 PM

I'm coming into some information that doesnt look very good for them... includes screenshots, correspondence, acknowledgment that they have stolen signups.

I'm trying to decide what the best course of action is here.

What do you think?

GTS Mark · 12-17-2002, 05:14 PM

I hope this is a joke.

DH

asuna · 12-17-2002, 05:15 PM

Dax · 12-17-2002, 05:15 PM

Who does not shave?

Juicy D. Links · 12-17-2002, 05:15 PM

Speaking of shaving , its time for me to shave my balls again

Dirty F · 12-17-2002, 05:15 PM

If its true then post the screenshots right away...if its crap then tell me now...i'm about to sleep

Hooper · 12-17-2002, 05:19 PM

I can only speak from my own experience and would certainly never accuse anybody of anything.

I will be posting screenshots later but i have to go to dinner now.

p1mpdogg · 12-17-2002, 05:20 PM

heh

fat and the restless
days of our porn
bold and the ugly

High Quality · 12-17-2002, 05:20 PM

Is the sky blue?

Sly_RJ · 12-17-2002, 05:23 PM

This is low.

This thread coming from a webmaster is one thing. But coming from another program owner... damn.

Hooper · 12-17-2002, 05:26 PM

How is it low sly?

Is my money not worth fighting for?

If i owed you money and then just told you to fuck off wouldnt you be a little upset?

What if i took away signups after you inquired about a check that was not large enough?

I'm not trying to make a dime off of this, hence no signature.

I just feel that webmasters deserve to know the truth.

Sly_RJ · 12-17-2002, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
How is it low sly?

Is my money not worth fighting for?

If i owed you money and then just told you to fuck off wouldnt you be a little upset?

What if i took away signups after you inquired about a check that was not large enough?

I'm not trying to make a dime off of this, hence no signature.

I just feel that webmasters deserve to know the truth.

Just post the screen shots man.

J.R. · 12-17-2002, 05:27 PM

You will hardly fin ANY sponsor who doesn't shave
if they are paying over $40 per join. Thats a proven fact.

I opted to pay webmasters less and not shave

Dirty F · 12-17-2002, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
How is it low sly?

Is my money not worth fighting for?

If i owed you money and then just told you to fuck off wouldnt you be a little upset?

What if i took away signups after you inquired about a check that was not large enough?

I'm not trying to make a dime off of this, hence no signature.

I just feel that webmasters deserve to know the truth.

Well post it already...why wait if its true?

I dont promote them so i couldnt care less but uf they fucked you over and its clear then show us.

J.R. · 12-17-2002, 05:28 PM

I suppose proof is in the pudding, but we all know
that screenshots can be faked!!

J.R. · 12-17-2002, 05:29 PM

Hooper, contact me.. we won't shave you at all...

p1mpdogg · 12-17-2002, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J.R.
You will hardly fin ANY sponsor who doesn't shave
if they are paying over $40 per join. Thats a proven fact.

I opted to pay webmasters less and not shave

cant get much more honest than this

stats from sunday until today

epiccash.com

$25 per FREE signup

Brad Mitchell · 12-17-2002, 05:30 PM

I doubt that they are... but if they were and you were able to prove it to everybody that would be a good service to many.

Brad

Sly_RJ · 12-17-2002, 05:31 PM

Drunk Dollars shaves me, bastards.

Click below for proof:
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=87104

Dawgy · 12-17-2002, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
Speaking of shaving , its time for me to shave my balls again

let me know if you need any help with that.

Daymare · 12-17-2002, 05:33 PM

Hooper · 12-17-2002, 05:33 PM

This is really about a very small amount of money.

is a stats screenshot from some period in november.. i think the 1-15th.

all i can tell ya is that now that period is showing 0 signups and in our correspondence with them they first said "oh sorry, we'll get you a check" and within an hour were making up some fantastic story about how signups from somebody else's account got accidentally put into ours.

The funny thing is that that screenshot was taken on november 16th by our invoicing guy and the stats showed the same thing til about 30 seconds after we asked about why a check for only 100 bucks was send for that period.

Bottom line is we take screenshots of stats at the end of period for every sponsor we use.

I've seen too many scam artists come and go to just blindly trust.

I'll post more details later.

J.R. · 12-17-2002, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Drunk Dollars shaves me, bastards.

Click below for proof:
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=87104

Ha/ not that again.

[The Leader] · 12-17-2002, 05:35 PM

lol, shaving is a myth, no sponsor program has ever shaved a signup.

OneHungLo · 12-17-2002, 05:40 PM

Id like to see one of these 30-40 per signup programs not use any tracking scripts and ONLY use one processor like ccbill or Ibill. In ccbill you have an option where you can pay affilates X amount per trial...You will never see them doing this because they wont have anyway to shave you. Its very easy with the tracking systems they use to count signups. Most of these programs count every time a password is written to the password file from your account and credits you with $30. A few lines of code that says credit every the webmaster with every 3rd username that is written to the password file and their shaving you 75%. Ask anyone of these guys to set you up with your own ibill or ccbill account and pay you $30 per trial and im sure they will tell you to gofuckyourself

BluMedia · 12-17-2002, 05:40 PM

Hooper I think that is a good idea. I just hope there is not another sponsor shaving.

Mark

heymatty · 12-17-2002, 05:43 PM

Every webmaster I know is a stataholic. Removing signups that were once credited is not really an option surely.

I think platinum bucks probably did make an error, but I'll admit it seems strange they only fixed it after.

Platinum Albert · 12-17-2002, 05:46 PM

Hello All:

The purpose of message boards is to share knowledge and to communicate.

WE at Platinum Bucks have made a decision in this matter that we are confident with. WE as a team understand the principles of Public Relations, yet our decisions as a management team stand firm.

We do not shave and we honor payouts as deserved. We have an outstanding reputation that we have developed over the years. This has been from hard work, reliability, webmaster support, accurate payouts and customer service.

We are not in the business for burning bridges. We are professionals constantly building relationships. All those doing business with us can attest to this.

If anyone has questions in this matter, I would be happy to speak to the appropriate parties for further clarifications.

Thank You for your time and Happy Holidays.

Hooper · 12-17-2002, 05:50 PM

matty. the problem is that they told us to fuck ourselves after we very politely brought the matter to their attention.

The signups werent taken away until AFTER we asked about why our check was too small.

I think Platinum Dan is mad that we had to stop accepting his spam traffic after verio told us that they were going to shut us down if we didnt.

:-(

Theo · 12-17-2002, 05:51 PM

damn Uzo

Fletch XXX · 12-17-2002, 05:53 PM

'The scalpel shines in god's sunshine
Street lights whisper pain
Down here near the poison stream our god has gone insane'

J.R. · 12-17-2002, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
matty. the problem is that they told us to fuck ourselves after we very politely brought the matter to their attention.

The signups werent taken away until AFTER we asked about why our check was too small.

I think Platinum Dan is mad that we had to stop accepting his spam traffic after verio told us that they were going to shut us down if we didnt.

:-(

Verio.. doesn't fuck around, thats a fact

Pipecrew · 12-17-2002, 05:56 PM

Hooper, swear on your life right here and now that Conversioncash or quickbucks dont shave... It takes a shaver to catch a shaver

Kris · 12-17-2002, 05:57 PM

the stats after they went to the programmer...

sextoyking · 12-17-2002, 05:59 PM

Hooper,

In our dealings with Plat. Bucks, and Dave, it has always gone perfect. We have done a ton of big projects with them, and they have always paid like gold.

peace

todd

Hooper · 12-17-2002, 06:04 PM

heehee pipecrew i'm not gonna talk about my programs in this thread i'm not trying to profit off of their theivery.

by the way, that second stats shot above is what Kris got a few minutes after inquiring about about the missing money.

apparently the *corrected* the issue after we asked about the money.

Hooper · 12-17-2002, 06:05 PM

I respect your wish to continue doing designs for platinum bucks todd.

Hooper · 12-17-2002, 06:07 PM

and dave and albert are two of the most lovable guys i know.. and i KNOW because we've spent more than our fair share of late nights sitting together in hotel rooms talking.

Dveron · 12-17-2002, 06:09 PM

Seems more like a mistake to me.

There would be far easier and more subtle ways to cheat you than make most of your signups disappear at the end of the pay period, that is a little to obvious.

sextoyking · 12-17-2002, 06:11 PM

Hey Hoop,

well we want to do designs for your company too

))

Dave is a good guy, I am sure he will take care of you.

happy holidays

todd

Martin · 12-17-2002, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
I hope this is a joke.

DH

99% of what comes out of Hoopers mouth is a joke..

Theo · 12-17-2002, 06:15 PM

i'll have to agree with Dveron. Did you contact them about this? When you guys got the screenshot the PB programmer could try to fix the problem. Shaving is not dissapearing sales from stats,this stuff existed in previous decade. I have seen sales dissapearing from my stats with major sponsors and after a while reappearing. And I'm not bullshiting on this, for example last night statsremote showed 4 TCG sales missing. I logged in my account and i noticed that my sales was appearing in the total for the period,but not on todays stats. After a while the program was fixed.

Hooper · 12-17-2002, 06:20 PM

We spent most of the afternoon talking to them and they are very much aware of the situation, they have simply decided that they arent paying us because they dont want to.

There are no ifs ands or buts about it, they decided not to pay us for no reason other than the fact that they want to.

Hooper · 12-17-2002, 06:22 PM

Do you think they needed the money to cover some of the strippers and parties they are funding at internext?

If so i wish they would have told me. I'd be happy to make them a loan.

greentea · 12-17-2002, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin

99% of what comes out of Hoopers mouth is a joke..

Well said!

Theo · 12-17-2002, 06:24 PM

and btw, my post wasn't an attempt to defend PB, but i'm more than sure many of you will have noticed similar cases.

Theo · 12-17-2002, 06:24 PM

oh i havent read your last post,that's an other case

Wiseman · 12-17-2002, 06:26 PM

YEa we been trying to get it worked out all day!!! And then at the end the day... And at one point we were told that it was an error and that a CHECK would be fedex to us tomarrow.. But then parently Dan the Man decided he wanted to say FUCK ALL to us and tell Albert to tell us to fuck off!!! So when that was done I could no longer restrain the FEERLESS Hooper from takeing this public.......
SO yes we tried to handle it and No it wasnt!!!

Hooper · 12-17-2002, 06:26 PM

well greentea and martin, other than making personal insults, what do you think about the situation?

Is it right for them to refuse payment to us? Do you consider that to be acceptable behavior?

Pipecrew · 12-17-2002, 06:32 PM

Hooper if you need a loan for the 100 or 380 or whatever amount it is, Please contact me

12-17-2002, 05:13 PM	#1
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	Does Platimum Bucks Shave? I'm coming into some information that doesnt look very good for them... includes screenshots, correspondence, acknowledgment that they have stolen signups. I'm trying to decide what the best course of action is here. What do you think?

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12-17-2002, 05:19 PM	#7
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	I can only speak from my own experience and would certainly never accuse anybody of anything. I will be posting screenshots later but i have to go to dinner now. Last edited by Hooper; 12-17-2002 at 05:24 PM..

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12-17-2002, 05:14 PM	#2
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	I hope this is a joke. DH

12-17-2002, 05:15 PM	#4
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	Who does not shave?

12-17-2002, 05:15 PM	#5
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12-17-2002, 05:15 PM	#6
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	If its true then post the screenshots right away...if its crap then tell me now...i'm about to sleep

12-17-2002, 05:20 PM	#9
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12-17-2002, 05:26 PM	#11
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	How is it low sly? Is my money not worth fighting for? If i owed you money and then just told you to fuck off wouldnt you be a little upset? What if i took away signups after you inquired about a check that was not large enough? I'm not trying to make a dime off of this, hence no signature. I just feel that webmasters deserve to know the truth.

12-17-2002, 05:27 PM	#13
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	You will hardly fin ANY sponsor who doesn't shave if they are paying over $40 per join. Thats a proven fact. I opted to pay webmasters less and not shave

12-17-2002, 05:28 PM	#15
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	I suppose proof is in the pudding, but we all know that screenshots can be faked!!

12-17-2002, 05:29 PM	#16
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	Hooper, contact me.. we won't shave you at all...

12-17-2002, 05:30 PM	#18
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	I doubt that they are... but if they were and you were able to prove it to everybody that would be a good service to many. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999 Last edited by Brad Mitchell; 12-17-2002 at 05:32 PM..

12-17-2002, 05:31 PM	#19
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Drunk Dollars shaves me, bastards. Click below for proof: http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=87104 __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

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12-17-2002, 05:35 PM	#24
[The Leader] Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Van City Posts: 1,026	lol, shaving is a myth, no sponsor program has ever shaved a signup. __________________ <br> <embed src="http://www.bigleaguebetting.com/ph.swf?http://www.prohosters.com" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60" menu="false" quality="high"><br>

12-17-2002, 05:40 PM	#25
OneHungLo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Your mom's front hole Posts: 40,906	Id like to see one of these 30-40 per signup programs not use any tracking scripts and ONLY use one processor like ccbill or Ibill. In ccbill you have an option where you can pay affilates X amount per trial...You will never see them doing this because they wont have anyway to shave you. Its very easy with the tracking systems they use to count signups. Most of these programs count every time a password is written to the password file from your account and credits you with $30. A few lines of code that says credit every the webmaster with every 3rd username that is written to the password file and their shaving you 75%. Ask anyone of these guys to set you up with your own ibill or ccbill account and pay you $30 per trial and im sure they will tell you to gofuckyourself

12-17-2002, 05:40 PM	#26
BluMedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,973	Hooper I think that is a good idea. I just hope there is not another sponsor shaving. Mark __________________ IntenseCash - If you can't convert us then you might want to look for a new job . BrokeStraightBoys.com converting 1:124 stats counted by Nats

12-17-2002, 05:43 PM	#27
heymatty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Scottsdale :) Posts: 2,188	Every webmaster I know is a stataholic. Removing signups that were once credited is not really an option surely. I think platinum bucks probably did make an error, but I'll admit it seems strange they only fixed it after. __________________ Cashlantis ~ Black Book Cash

12-17-2002, 05:46 PM	#28
Platinum Albert Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 144	Hello All: The purpose of message boards is to share knowledge and to communicate. WE at Platinum Bucks have made a decision in this matter that we are confident with. WE as a team understand the principles of Public Relations, yet our decisions as a management team stand firm. We do not shave and we honor payouts as deserved. We have an outstanding reputation that we have developed over the years. This has been from hard work, reliability, webmaster support, accurate payouts and customer service. We are not in the business for burning bridges. We are professionals constantly building relationships. All those doing business with us can attest to this. If anyone has questions in this matter, I would be happy to speak to the appropriate parties for further clarifications. Thank You for your time and Happy Holidays. __________________ Platinum Albert Marketing and Communications [email protected] <a href="http://www.platinumbucks.com/">http://www.platinumbucks.com/</a> <a href="http://www.webmasterhangover.com/">http://www.webmasterhangover.com/</a> <a href="http://www.platinumbucks.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.platinumbucks.com/sales_tools/banners/PB/odd/133x31_1.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>

12-17-2002, 05:50 PM	#29
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	matty. the problem is that they told us to fuck ourselves after we very politely brought the matter to their attention. The signups werent taken away until AFTER we asked about why our check was too small. I think Platinum Dan is mad that we had to stop accepting his spam traffic after verio told us that they were going to shut us down if we didnt. :-( Last edited by Hooper; 12-17-2002 at 05:51 PM..

12-17-2002, 05:51 PM	#30
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	damn Uzo

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Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Hooper, swear on your life right here and now that Conversioncash or quickbucks dont shave... It takes a shaver to catch a shaver

12-17-2002, 05:57 PM	#34
Kris Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 940	the stats after they went to the programmer...

12-17-2002, 05:59 PM	#35
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Hooper, In our dealings with Plat. Bucks, and Dave, it has always gone perfect. We have done a ton of big projects with them, and they have always paid like gold. peace todd __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

12-17-2002, 06:04 PM	#36
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	heehee pipecrew i'm not gonna talk about my programs in this thread i'm not trying to profit off of their theivery. by the way, that second stats shot above is what Kris got a few minutes after inquiring about about the missing money. apparently the corrected the issue after we asked about the money.

12-17-2002, 06:05 PM	#37
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	I respect your wish to continue doing designs for platinum bucks todd.

12-17-2002, 06:07 PM	#38
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	and dave and albert are two of the most lovable guys i know.. and i KNOW because we've spent more than our fair share of late nights sitting together in hotel rooms talking.

12-17-2002, 06:09 PM	#39
Dveron Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,794	Seems more like a mistake to me. There would be far easier and more subtle ways to cheat you than make most of your signups disappear at the end of the pay period, that is a little to obvious.

12-17-2002, 06:11 PM	#40
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Hey Hoop, well we want to do designs for your company too)) Dave is a good guy, I am sure he will take care of you. happy holidays todd __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

12-17-2002, 06:15 PM	#42
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i'll have to agree with Dveron. Did you contact them about this? When you guys got the screenshot the PB programmer could try to fix the problem. Shaving is not dissapearing sales from stats,this stuff existed in previous decade. I have seen sales dissapearing from my stats with major sponsors and after a while reappearing. And I'm not bullshiting on this, for example last night statsremote showed 4 TCG sales missing. I logged in my account and i noticed that my sales was appearing in the total for the period,but not on todays stats. After a while the program was fixed.

12-17-2002, 06:20 PM	#43
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	We spent most of the afternoon talking to them and they are very much aware of the situation, they have simply decided that they arent paying us because they dont want to. There are no ifs ands or buts about it, they decided not to pay us for no reason other than the fact that they want to.