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davidoff2000 · 12-13-2002, 02:03 PM

Anyone out there who processes with ACPay?

Just wondering if that happens only to me:

Since Sunday Dec. 8 my new signup sales have dropped from around 15 daily to like 5 daily. This is going on now for 6 days in a row and I have no clue why... Its already a loss now of more than 60%!!!

Number of visitors, tour pages and server uptime: no significant changes since Sunday at all...

Someone else who is experiencing the same?

Va2k · 12-13-2002, 02:05 PM

holy fuck thought it was just me YES it has happened to me for the last 4 days argh@#$

[Labret] · 12-13-2002, 02:06 PM

Va2k · 12-13-2002, 02:08 PM

yea i just icqed them asked them to turn the scrubbing off shit i really thought it was only me though

bignosejimmy · 12-13-2002, 02:13 PM

Yes, same here. Maybe we should contact them and find out what's going on

Ludedude · 12-13-2002, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by bignosejimmy
Yes, same here. Maybe we should contact them and find out what's going on

Now why would you do that instead of coming here to complain first?

<IMX> · 12-13-2002, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by Ludedude

Now why would you do that instead of coming here to complain first?

buhahahaha

the indigo · 12-13-2002, 03:50 PM

If you have any information, please post it here...

bradestes · 12-13-2002, 03:51 PM

We've seen a couple of weird bank errors pop up from time to time over the past couple of days, but nothing that would signify a dramatic drop like you've seen.

Just so you know, we have our 24 x 7 guys in here monitoring the sales traffic to make sure our systems engineers and programmers can get those lovely calls in the middle of the night if something goes wrong.

If you ever need anything, feel free to give me a call or drop me an ICQ.

Take Care,

Brad Estes

JFK · 12-13-2002, 04:04 PM

Well that was just too fucking easy ......... Like Ludedude suggested how about calling them first, instead of whining here ?I have been with A/C for about 4yrs NEVER a Problem !

the indigo · 12-13-2002, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by JFK
Well that was just too fucking easy ......... Like Ludedude suggested how about calling them first, instead of whining here ?I have been with A/C for about 4yrs NEVER a Problem !

4 years? This is about AC Pay, not Adult Check. Doesn't make any difference if it's the same guys, it's a different service.

Pornwolf · 12-13-2002, 05:24 PM

Actually, it's not really that different. Same processing, only you get to set your price.

Eric · 12-13-2002, 05:24 PM

Have you guys tried to contact Therese? She is really cool and I am sure either her or someone over there can help you and find out if there are any problems.

freeadultcontent · 12-13-2002, 06:40 PM

My question.

How long does a new member have to join then cancel without ever getting charged. (not free trials either, just monthly types)

JFK · 12-13-2002, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by the indigo

4 years? This is about AC Pay, not Adult Check. Doesn't make any difference if it's the same guys, it's a different service.

It may be a different service, but run by the same guys !Which to me means REALIBILITY !!

Too many guys around here shoot from the lip, without getting their facts straight. It shows a lot of inexperience in the world of business. Why couldnt davidoff2000 just call, and get a direct answer?

Brujah · 12-14-2002, 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by JFK

It may be a different service, but run by the same guys !Which to me means REALIBILITY !!
Too many guys around here shoot from the lip, without getting their facts straight. It shows a lot of inexperience in the world of business. Why couldnt davidoff2000 just call, and get a direct answer?

JFK, I don't know david but it looked like he didn't call because he thought it was just him. It looks like he wasn't the only one that used the same logic. I don't think that automatically means he's inexperienced or that shoots off the lip without facts. It looks like he was checking to see if other webmasters had experienced the same problems he did first.

This is not all that unusual. Even veteran webmasters of AdultCheck post on outside boards about rebills being low or when it appears there's a processing problem without calling AdultCheck. Often they post to see if other webmasters are experiencing it BECAUSE AdultCheck doesn't see a problem anywhere or notice any significant declines during the period. This lets the webmaster at least know it's not just him.

Rory · 12-14-2002, 01:25 AM

I left AC Pay because they didnt offer decline stats. I attempted to inquire about decline info manually and was told that it was not possible. Was then told that it just didnt have priority and other things where being omplemented before. Not trying to imply that they are doing anything fishy because they are an honest company and they can be trusted, just hope that get more 'features' soon as there program is solid , just a little young.

ACPay Mac · 12-16-2002, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
How long does a new member have to join then cancel without ever getting charged. (not free trials either, just monthly types)

Unfortunately, the answer is "it depends." Ultimately, if the user is going to charge back and has a fairly defensible reason, our hands are tied, and we'll go ahead and issue a refund to avoid the chargeback. Note that "fairly defensible," in the CC company's eyes, is not that difficult to acheive. So if a user calls up and says their kid stole their card, even if we seriously suspect it's not true, all we can do is issue a refund and ban the user from future transactions.

Now, the good news. Since our negative database is built from millions of transactions over years of info (from AC, GMS, ACMP, AC Pay and others), we have a lot of info we can use to filter out high-risk sales. We also have a lot of experience letting the good ones in, so we can keep your chargebacks low with minimal loss of good customers. And for those users who have a legitimate beef, our customer service folks are trained at talking users down and making them an offer that works (extending their rebill out a few days to make up for time they couldn't access a site, etc.).

wwwcashmountain · 12-16-2002, 12:33 PM

Hi

ACPay have been great for us at cash-mountain. A few more reports would be nice, especially if we could get them remote via XML or something.. That would be pretty cutting edge !

Robert

PornBroker · 12-16-2002, 06:32 PM

We use AC Pay and haven't seen any changes to signups and rebills lately.
Our requests to them for 'decline email' notification and enhanced 'reseller' stats, have been met with prompt friendly replies that 'they are being developed' in the near future.

Cheers,

bcbud · 12-28-2002, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by davidoff2000
Anyone out there who processes with ACPay?

Just wondering if that happens only to me:
Since Sunday Dec. 8 my new signup sales have dropped from around 15 daily to like 5 daily.
Someone else who is experiencing the same?

Just wondering if this has since worked itself out for you...?

Got hit by a similar drop w/ Probilling about that time, and they're saying that Visa forced em to install new fraud detection stuff that shot their rejection rate from ~0.5% to +80%...

anyways - thinkin of signing up with ACPay, so just wondering if yer rejection rates have gone back up to where they were...

M@

Va2k · 12-28-2002, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bcbud

Just wondering if this has since worked itself out for you...?

Got hit by a similar drop w/ Probilling about that time, and they're saying that Visa forced em to install new fraud detection stuff that shot their rejection rate from ~0.5% to +80%...

anyways - thinkin of signing up with ACPay, so just wondering if yer rejection rates have gone back up to where they were...

M@

For me they seem fine now,

Cohen · 12-28-2002, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by davidoff2000
Anyone out there who processes with ACPay?

Just wondering if that happens only to me:

Since Sunday Dec. 8 my new signup sales have dropped from around 15 daily to like 5 daily. This is going on now for 6 days in a row and I have no clue why... Its already a loss now of more than 60%!!!

Number of visitors, tour pages and server uptime: no significant changes since Sunday at all...

Someone else who is experiencing the same?

dont blame ACPay, because your site dont sell

sexmagnet · 12-28-2002, 10:35 PM

I'm considering an acpay site.
But how much content are most of you guys using? And what are you charging?

I'd like to have some acpay sites on my linklist - which is fairly new and has all avs sites.
http://www.pic-pimp.com/links/add.htm
No recip needed but always appreciated.

Thanks
mag

DemonWolfe · 12-28-2002, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rory
I left AC Pay because they didnt offer decline stats. I attempted to inquire about decline info manually and was told that it was not possible. Was then told that it just didnt have priority and other things where being omplemented before. Not trying to imply that they are doing anything fishy because they are an honest company and they can be trusted, just hope that get more 'features' soon as there program is solid , just a little young.

Globill doesn't offer decline stats either.

I was suprised that these billers could not provide a custom page on decline. IE: so that you could attempt to accept them via a backup processor.

NETbilling · 12-29-2002, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DemonWolfe

Globill doesn't offer decline stats either.

I was suprised that these billers could not provide a custom page on decline. IE: so that you could attempt to accept them via a backup processor.

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directfiesta · 12-29-2002, 02:44 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

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12-13-2002, 02:03 PM	#1
davidoff2000 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 34	to ACPay webmasters... Anyone out there who processes with ACPay? Just wondering if that happens only to me: Since Sunday Dec. 8 my new signup sales have dropped from around 15 daily to like 5 daily. This is going on now for 6 days in a row and I have no clue why... Its already a loss now of more than 60%!!! Number of visitors, tour pages and server uptime: no significant changes since Sunday at all... Someone else who is experiencing the same?

12-13-2002, 02:05 PM	#2
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	holy fuck thought it was just me YES it has happened to me for the last 4 days argh@#$ __________________

12-13-2002, 02:08 PM	#4
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	yea i just icqed them asked them to turn the scrubbing off shit i really thought it was only me though __________________

12-13-2002, 03:51 PM	#9
bradestes Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 12	We've seen a couple of weird bank errors pop up from time to time over the past couple of days, but nothing that would signify a dramatic drop like you've seen. Just so you know, we have our 24 x 7 guys in here monitoring the sales traffic to make sure our systems engineers and programmers can get those lovely calls in the middle of the night if something goes wrong. If you ever need anything, feel free to give me a call or drop me an ICQ. Take Care, Brad Estes __________________ [email protected] https://clients.acpay.com/

12-13-2002, 04:04 PM	#10
JFK FUBAR the ORIGINATOR Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: FUBARLAND Posts: 67,374	Well that was just too fucking easy ......... Like Ludedude suggested how about calling them first, instead of whining here ?I have been with A/C for about 4yrs NEVER a Problem ! __________________ FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com

12-13-2002, 02:06 PM	#3
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945

12-13-2002, 02:13 PM	#5
bignosejimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: B.C, Canada Posts: 136	Yes, same here. Maybe we should contact them and find out what's going on

12-13-2002, 03:50 PM	#8
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	If you have any information, please post it here...

12-13-2002, 05:24 PM	#12
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Actually, it's not really that different. Same processing, only you get to set your price. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

12-13-2002, 05:24 PM	#13
Eric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Helm! Posts: 8,818	Have you guys tried to contact Therese? She is really cool and I am sure either her or someone over there can help you and find out if there are any problems. __________________ No One

12-13-2002, 06:40 PM	#14
freeadultcontent Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: "evitcepsrep ruoy egnahc" Posts: 9,976	My question. How long does a new member have to join then cancel without ever getting charged. (not free trials either, just monthly types) __________________ Exclusive Ethnic & Microniche Sites

12-14-2002, 01:25 AM	#17
Rory Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: I Love Ixtapa, Mexico ö Posts: 616	I left AC Pay because they didnt offer decline stats. I attempted to inquire about decline info manually and was told that it was not possible. Was then told that it just didnt have priority and other things where being omplemented before. Not trying to imply that they are doing anything fishy because they are an honest company and they can be trusted, just hope that get more 'features' soon as there program is solid , just a little young. __________________ Promote a site that actually retains members!

12-16-2002, 12:33 PM	#19
wwwcashmountain Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 194	Hi ACPay have been great for us at cash-mountain. A few more reports would be nice, especially if we could get them remote via XML or something.. That would be pretty cutting edge ! Robert __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

12-16-2002, 06:32 PM	#20
PornBroker Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 686	We use AC Pay and haven't seen any changes to signups and rebills lately. Our requests to them for 'decline email' notification and enhanced 'reseller' stats, have been met with prompt friendly replies that 'they are being developed' in the near future. Cheers, __________________ please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste...I've been around for a long long year stolen many man's soul and faith...I was around when jesus christ had his moment of doubt and pain...made damn sure that pilate washed his hands and sealed his fate...pleased to meet you hope you guess my name...but's what's puzzling you is the nature of my game...

12-28-2002, 10:35 PM	#24
sexmagnet Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ny,Ny Posts: 10	I'm considering an acpay site. But how much content are most of you guys using? And what are you charging? I'd like to have some acpay sites on my linklist - which is fairly new and has all avs sites. http://www.pic-pimp.com/links/add.htm No recip needed but always appreciated. Thanks mag __________________ <a href="http://www.cybernetentertainment.com/webmasters/?2978">Cybernetentertainment</a> <br> (only for the kinky) <br><b> remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and bitch slap the fucker upside the head...</b>