ROSSIGNOL or BURTON ? - GoFuckYourself.com

topal · 12-28-2002, 07:47 PM

please choose one and recommend me a model...
thanks

49thParallel · 12-28-2002, 08:03 PM

That's an impossible question to answer. Both companies make good equipment specifically suited for different levels and styles. Your best bet is to check out the websites of both companies. I believe they have interactive applets to help you choose the best boards for your particular style.

Two other companies that I have been very happy with are Volkl and Atomic.

topal · 12-28-2002, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
That's an impossible question to answer. Both companies make good equipment specifically suited for different levels and styles. Your best bet is to check out the websites of both companies. I believe they have interactive applets to help you choose the best boards for your particular style.

Two other companies that I have been very happy with are Volkl and Atomic.

Today i visited a rossingol shop.. costs are too high in rossignol, i checked burton on internet.. they are more expensive than rossignols models, but they have some equal fees on some models.. i am trying to collect best information like which brand do i need to prefer? and whats the best price for a begginer?.. actually costs have too much variables.. its up to which bindings, shoes.. board... the best price i can find is $650 for board+bindings+shoes.. its a rossignol model and board has a cover on the front face.. but i am not still sure about the quality of it.. i think i am gonna spend $1000 for board+shoes and bindings.. i like SLY model on rossignol.. what do you think?

Tipsy · 12-28-2002, 08:45 PM

http://www.hrgiger.com/boards.htm for a range of 4 boards from beginner to advanced. The lower end beginner boards are meant to be especially forgiving when starting out.

What the fuck though - who cares about the performance when any of the above boards have got simply THE best graphics anywhere ever. At least with giger boards when you fall on your face you're doing it on a cool board

Beastiepoo · 12-28-2002, 08:46 PM

topal - just my

DON'T buy a top of the line board if you are just starting out. You are better off getting the advice of the guy in the shop - try to go to a shop with multiple brands in stock - and listening to what he says. If you go anywhere reputable they won't just kit you out in the most expensive gear to get your cash, they should set you up with the best stuff to get you started. It will prolly still run you at LEAST $700 but you'll be happier in the long run. Besides that, top of the range boards are designed for the boarder who knows what they are doing and tend to be stiffer and harder to learn the basics on than a more mid range board.

This aside - DO spend your money on kickass boots and bindings. There is no point saving $60-$100 on your boots because regardless of your level, the better your boots fit you, the better ride you get. There are some boots that are stiffer or softer depending on what sort of use they'll get (pipe/park vs. piste/offpiste) but if you invest in high quality all around boots you'll be happier and in less pain.

49thParallel · 12-28-2002, 09:36 PM

Doh...forget my advice about Atomic and Volkl...as a long time skier, I assume everyone is talking about skis...

But the other advice still applies...don't rush out to spend money on a board that is above your ability. Get one that works for you. And as far as brands go...keeping up with the Jone's doesn't make a difference on the slopes. I can't remember the last time I ever heard anyone on the hill comment on someone's board. Early season I use my rock skis...circa 1980...on other days I use my Atomics ...2003 model ..just over $1,000 for the skis alone. Nobody knows or cares...it's all what works for you.

That said, don't go cheap..get the best you can afford.....just don't pay extra for flash

supportex · 12-29-2002, 02:08 AM

Completely agree with 49thParallel.
Don't pay attention to brand, just find the board that works for you.
I am snowboarding fanat for many years and tried many vendors, but the very best equipment for me is 3 y. o. HOT board... my friend uses BURTON... so i guess it doesn't really matter.

snowball179 · 12-29-2002, 02:14 AM

I have a Buerton BMC and love it...but liked better my old custom

ThePornNetwork · 12-29-2002, 02:15 AM

Have you said what type of riding you do...

For the weekdays (slow tree bashing I choose Burton... Lighter board and much better self tooning (sp?)

For a weekend with the boyz then I choose a Ross (well of the two you mentioned)

Shaun White would disagree with both of my answers.. (only because he is sponsored)

I would not buy a board untill you find an shop that allows you to take a model on the mountain... If you are near a snow freak community then you will find one...

Dude, why the fuck are you asking this question to a board that most of these fuckers jerk off to porn then ride the mountain...

ThePornNetwork · 12-29-2002, 02:18 AM

Oh,

If anyone rides the Colorado Mountians, hit me up...

We got plenty of snow and condos for the Fuk your own self community....

Fro · 12-29-2002, 02:19 AM

Nidecker puts Burton to shame.

Happy trails!

ThePornNetwork · 12-29-2002, 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by Fro
Nidecker puts Burton to shame.

Happy trails!

So you read that on their website huh..

Well, my paysite puts adult.com's to shame...

Hold on, let me put that on my website.......

Fro · 12-29-2002, 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by ThePornNetwork

So you read that on their website huh..

Well, my paysite puts adult.com's to shame...

Hold on, let me put that on my website.......

I ride a Nidecker Megalight. I have owned Burton.

Your website sucks.

ThePornNetwork · 12-29-2002, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fro

I ride a Nidecker Megalight. I have owned Burton.

Your website sucks.

..

I ride a Walmart special and owned a Ros...

My website sucks...

Tipsy · 12-29-2002, 06:01 AM

ThePornNetwrok answered it - don't buy a board before trying the fucker first.

That said though those Giger graphics......

quiet · 12-29-2002, 06:11 AM

like some have already said, do not buy a top end board until you've ridden for awhile.

i've been riding for 14 years, i've owned burton, sims, ride, rossignol and santa cruz. i currently own and ride 4 burton boards and 2 sets of bindings.

imo burton make the best boards, boots and bindings. just my opinion, but i have been riding, and involved in the sport a long time.

bottom line, start with something cheap, and go from there. hopefully you'll get a chance to try out other friend's boards along the way. that's definitely a good way to experience a couple different setups...

Tipsy · 12-29-2002, 06:15 AM

Wanted to add to Quiet's post as he half mentioned it that the don't buy cheap isn't always true in boarding. Often when starting out the cheaper boards are by far the best for a beginner. They're far more forgiving and not as stiff as the higher end boards.

However you aint gonna know until you try it

quiet · 12-29-2002, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
Often when starting out the cheaper boards are by far the best for a beginner. They're far more forgiving and not as stiff as the higher end boards.

agreed.

superweb · 12-29-2002, 06:43 AM

Fuck rossignol, they makes great Ski, shitty boards.
Burton is good, but expensive.
Check out Duotone, great quality, low prices.
For great board prices visit www.bluetomato.at, great e-shop, sales around 60% on last season's models.

quiet · 12-29-2002, 07:53 AM

look ma, i can fly

12-29-2002, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

look ma, i can fly

jesus

topal · 12-29-2002, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

look ma, i can fly

hes on the second pipde.. as you can see he passed landing area.. i wonder what happened when he land..

primo DM · 12-29-2002, 09:52 AM

BURTON

hands down

iv had multiple 60+ day seasons on my burtons and they have never failed me once, you get what you pay for! i currently ride a jim rippey pro model which was near $600 just for the board, all of my equipment i ride is burton except for my boots which are vans.

rossignol is a ski company and should have stayed that way by all means, the only reason thier snowboarding half is still in business is because they had so many connections from hooking up large orders for rental shops with skis, they got them all to get boards from them as well.

GO BURTON!

kuwawawah · 12-29-2002, 09:59 AM

i like burtons, i have a craig kelly and a brushie. i used to ride kempers

primo DM · 12-29-2002, 10:00 AM

i love super stiff, large and powerful boards, which is why i ride the rippey, but if you have never ridden before i would agree with quiet and check out the lower end boards, dont get something super sweet like the burton custom for example, as bad ass a board as it is, its not suited for beginers whatsoever, its not forgiving, really snappy, and more squirelly(sp?). so its not suited for a beginner.

my second choice is Option Snowboards. they are the shit, they are expensive, made in vancouver BC, but everyone i know who rides one raves about them and iv never seen one go bad. might be what im getting this year in fact. after 5 years on burton.

i have also ridden lib tech/gnu(mervin), K2, rossignol, morrow, sims, and god knows what all else, burton however has stood well and above thier competition throughout.

topal · 12-29-2002, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by primo DM
BURTON

hands down

iv had multiple 60+ day seasons on my burtons and they have never failed me once, you get what you pay for! i currently ride a jim rippey pro model which was near $600 just for the board, all of my equipment i ride is burton except for my boots which are vans.

rossignol is a ski company and should have stayed that way by all means, the only reason thier snowboarding half is still in business is because they had so many connections from hooking up large orders for rental shops with skis, they got them all to get boards from them as well.

GO BURTON!

thanks for the advice.. i am new on snowboarding, sure i will start to jump from pipes in a short while when i get my own stuff.. i dont want to spend my money to non proffesional equipments.. So can you tell me a combiniation of Burton near $700-800 (board+bindings+boots) THANKS

primo DM · 12-29-2002, 10:22 AM

what mountain are you riding? if its got lots of parks and shit and thats the style of riding your wanting to do then get a shorter board. if its a big mountain, with lots of freeriding and powder, and thats what you want to do when your on the mountain then i would say to go with something a bit bigger.

i cna post you what i would get with that budget if you let me know those things.

primo DM · 12-29-2002, 10:33 AM

approx. height and weight are also needed.

topal · 12-29-2002, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by primo DM
what mountain are you riding? if its got lots of parks and shit and thats the style of riding your wanting to do then get a shorter board. if its a big mountain, with lots of freeriding and powder, and thats what you want to do when your on the mountain then i would say to go with something a bit bigger.

i cna post you what i would get with that budget if you let me know those things.

i ride in Kartalkaya and Uludag in Turkey,
both these areas has different type of pists.. Uludag has a long (over 7-8km) slopes..
i am ready to spend $800.. my wheight is $65-70kg, i am 183 tall.. i think i will need a board over 157-160cm..

extreme · 12-29-2002, 11:02 AM

I love my Burton Custom.. But i have to agree with the others, it's not the best board to start out with.

There is a board selection script on www.burton.com which might give you some idea what you should look for. But the best way is really to find a local store where they actually know what they are talking about.

topal · 12-29-2002, 02:25 PM

how about that?

edge contact mm
running edge mm
nose width mm
waist width mm
tail width mm
nose lenght mm
scoop mm
tail lenght mm
tailkick mm 1270
1196
314
185
314
185
68
160
49 camber mm
sidecut radius mm
weight kg
rec. stance cm
rec angels°
offset mm
target group kg 9
8.4
3
50-54
25°/5°
25
60+

Tipsy · 12-29-2002, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by topal

thanks for the advice.. i am new on snowboarding, sure i will start to jump from pipes in a short while when i get my own stuff.. i dont want to spend my money to non proffesional equipments.. So can you tell me a combiniation of Burton near $700-800 (board+bindings+boots) THANKS

Did you read ANY of the advice about equipment when starting out? Good grief.

Saintgames · 12-29-2002, 02:38 PM

I'm with Primo...

Rossignol is a ski company and should have stayed that way by all means, the only reason thier snowboarding half is still in business is because they had so many connections from hooking up large orders for rental shops with skis, they got them all to get boards from them as well.

GO BURTON!

I'm in Vermont and even got my daughter a Rossi board but only because it was free! Friggin $500 board and she still really wanted a Burton. =)

Saintgames

topal · 12-29-2002, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

Did you read ANY of the advice about equipment when starting out? Good grief.

yes i did.. i found this model.. its cheaper than burtons models and ppl are saying this board is cool as burtons.. its ?500..

topal · 12-29-2002, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Saintgames
I'm with Primo...

Rossignol is a ski company and should have stayed that way by all means, the only reason thier snowboarding half is still in business is because they had so many connections from hooking up large orders for rental shops with skis, they got them all to get boards from them as well.

GO BURTON!

I'm in Vermont and even got my daughter a Rossi board but only because it was free! Friggin $500 board and she still really wanted a Burton. =)

Saintgames

Ok guys, i will buy a BURTON.. ppl loves it... and my decide is this http://www.blue-tomato.at/shop/Produ...6NextP age%3D

topal · 12-29-2002, 03:10 PM

burtons website recommends this board for me
http://www.blue-tomato.at/shop/Produ...6NextPage%253D

its cjeap and cool.. i think i am on my way.. this is my board..

primo DM · 12-31-2002, 01:40 AM

you got a burton seven?

interesting to hear back, sorry i didnt get back here sooner, got abducted to go on some stupid journey to mt, baker

12-28-2002, 07:47 PM	#1
topal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 606	ROSSIGNOL or BURTON ? please choose one and recommend me a model... thanks

12-28-2002, 08:45 PM	#4
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	http://www.hrgiger.com/boards.htm for a range of 4 boards from beginner to advanced. The lower end beginner boards are meant to be especially forgiving when starting out. What the fuck though - who cares about the performance when any of the above boards have got simply THE best graphics anywhere ever. At least with giger boards when you fall on your face you're doing it on a cool board __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

12-28-2002, 08:46 PM	#5
Beastiepoo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a clog shop thinking about tulips Posts: 1,971	topal - just my DON'T buy a top of the line board if you are just starting out. You are better off getting the advice of the guy in the shop - try to go to a shop with multiple brands in stock - and listening to what he says. If you go anywhere reputable they won't just kit you out in the most expensive gear to get your cash, they should set you up with the best stuff to get you started. It will prolly still run you at LEAST $700 but you'll be happier in the long run. Besides that, top of the range boards are designed for the boarder who knows what they are doing and tend to be stiffer and harder to learn the basics on than a more mid range board. This aside - DO spend your money on kickass boots and bindings. There is no point saving $60-$100 on your boots because regardless of your level, the better your boots fit you, the better ride you get. There are some boots that are stiffer or softer depending on what sort of use they'll get (pipe/park vs. piste/offpiste) but if you invest in high quality all around boots you'll be happier and in less pain. __________________ Dammit! My timing SUCKS! Hot body piercing jewellery at discounted prices - Click here! Got Goth traffic?? Make money with it at DarkPassions - Click Here!

12-28-2002, 09:36 PM	#6
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Doh...forget my advice about Atomic and Volkl...as a long time skier, I assume everyone is talking about skis... But the other advice still applies...don't rush out to spend money on a board that is above your ability. Get one that works for you. And as far as brands go...keeping up with the Jone's doesn't make a difference on the slopes. I can't remember the last time I ever heard anyone on the hill comment on someone's board. Early season I use my rock skis...circa 1980...on other days I use my Atomics ...2003 model ..just over $1,000 for the skis alone. Nobody knows or cares...it's all what works for you. That said, don't go cheap..get the best you can afford.....just don't pay extra for flash Last edited by 49thParallel; 12-28-2002 at 09:37 PM..

12-29-2002, 02:15 AM	#9
ThePornNetwork Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nuttyville Posts: 20	Have you said what type of riding you do... For the weekdays (slow tree bashing I choose Burton... Lighter board and much better self tooning (sp?) For a weekend with the boyz then I choose a Ross (well of the two you mentioned) Shaun White would disagree with both of my answers.. (only because he is sponsored) I would not buy a board untill you find an shop that allows you to take a model on the mountain... If you are near a snow freak community then you will find one... Dude, why the fuck are you asking this question to a board that most of these fuckers jerk off to porn then ride the mountain... __________________ 37 DICKS Your sponsor sucks 37 dicks... Try not to suck any dick on the way to the parking lot.... HEY SWITCH TO GIGA MY NIGGA

12-28-2002, 08:03 PM	#2
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	That's an impossible question to answer. Both companies make good equipment specifically suited for different levels and styles. Your best bet is to check out the websites of both companies. I believe they have interactive applets to help you choose the best boards for your particular style. Two other companies that I have been very happy with are Volkl and Atomic.

12-29-2002, 02:08 AM	#7
supportex Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 61	Completely agree with 49thParallel. Don't pay attention to brand, just find the board that works for you. I am snowboarding fanat for many years and tried many vendors, but the very best equipment for me is 3 y. o. HOT board... my friend uses BURTON... so i guess it doesn't really matter.

12-29-2002, 02:14 AM	#8
snowball179 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 261	I have a Buerton BMC and love it...but liked better my old custom

12-29-2002, 02:18 AM	#10
ThePornNetwork Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nuttyville Posts: 20	Oh, If anyone rides the Colorado Mountians, hit me up... We got plenty of snow and condos for the Fuk your own self community.... __________________ 37 DICKS Your sponsor sucks 37 dicks... Try not to suck any dick on the way to the parking lot.... HEY SWITCH TO GIGA MY NIGGA

12-29-2002, 02:19 AM	#11
Fro Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mee-chi-gaan Posts: 709	Nidecker puts Burton to shame. Happy trails! __________________ I miss [Labret].

12-29-2002, 06:01 AM	#15
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	ThePornNetwrok answered it - don't buy a board before trying the fucker first. That said though those Giger graphics...... __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

12-29-2002, 06:11 AM	#16
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	like some have already said, do not buy a top end board until you've ridden for awhile. i've been riding for 14 years, i've owned burton, sims, ride, rossignol and santa cruz. i currently own and ride 4 burton boards and 2 sets of bindings. imo burton make the best boards, boots and bindings. just my opinion, but i have been riding, and involved in the sport a long time. bottom line, start with something cheap, and go from there. hopefully you'll get a chance to try out other friend's boards along the way. that's definitely a good way to experience a couple different setups... __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP Last edited by quiet; 12-29-2002 at 06:12 AM..

12-29-2002, 06:15 AM	#17
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Wanted to add to Quiet's post as he half mentioned it that the don't buy cheap isn't always true in boarding. Often when starting out the cheaper boards are by far the best for a beginner. They're far more forgiving and not as stiff as the higher end boards. However you aint gonna know until you try it __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

12-29-2002, 06:43 AM	#19
superweb Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 550	Fuck rossignol, they makes great Ski, shitty boards. Burton is good, but expensive. Check out Duotone, great quality, low prices. For great board prices visit www.bluetomato.at, great e-shop, sales around 60% on last season's models. __________________ <B><A HREF="http://www.webair.com/cgi-bin/in?136">Webair</A> - Virtual hosting from $9.95, dedicated from $119, complete paysite sollutions, reseller program. Most stable host ever!

12-29-2002, 07:53 AM	#20
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	look ma, i can fly __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

12-29-2002, 09:52 AM	#23
primo DM Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 159	BURTON hands down iv had multiple 60+ day seasons on my burtons and they have never failed me once, you get what you pay for! i currently ride a jim rippey pro model which was near $600 just for the board, all of my equipment i ride is burton except for my boots which are vans. rossignol is a ski company and should have stayed that way by all means, the only reason thier snowboarding half is still in business is because they had so many connections from hooking up large orders for rental shops with skis, they got them all to get boards from them as well. GO BURTON! __________________ This Space for Rent. CF4L!

12-29-2002, 09:59 AM	#24
kuwawawah Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Frozen nutZ Posts: 348	i like burtons, i have a craig kelly and a brushie. i used to ride kempers

12-29-2002, 10:00 AM	#25
primo DM Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 159	i love super stiff, large and powerful boards, which is why i ride the rippey, but if you have never ridden before i would agree with quiet and check out the lower end boards, dont get something super sweet like the burton custom for example, as bad ass a board as it is, its not suited for beginers whatsoever, its not forgiving, really snappy, and more squirelly(sp?). so its not suited for a beginner. my second choice is Option Snowboards. they are the shit, they are expensive, made in vancouver BC, but everyone i know who rides one raves about them and iv never seen one go bad. might be what im getting this year in fact. after 5 years on burton. i have also ridden lib tech/gnu(mervin), K2, rossignol, morrow, sims, and god knows what all else, burton however has stood well and above thier competition throughout. __________________ This Space for Rent. CF4L!

12-29-2002, 10:22 AM	#27
primo DM Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 159	what mountain are you riding? if its got lots of parks and shit and thats the style of riding your wanting to do then get a shorter board. if its a big mountain, with lots of freeriding and powder, and thats what you want to do when your on the mountain then i would say to go with something a bit bigger. i cna post you what i would get with that budget if you let me know those things. __________________ This Space for Rent. CF4L!

12-29-2002, 10:33 AM	#28
primo DM Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 159	approx. height and weight are also needed. __________________ This Space for Rent. CF4L!

12-29-2002, 11:02 AM	#30
extreme Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: lalaland Posts: 2,120	I love my Burton Custom.. But i have to agree with the others, it's not the best board to start out with. There is a board selection script on www.burton.com which might give you some idea what you should look for. But the best way is really to find a local store where they actually know what they are talking about. __________________ Browse and find new paysites with screenshot-preview Export FHGs/FLVs/Paysites by JSON, XML, CSV and Text Find FHGs/FLVs/Paysites from any given Category or Search-query

12-29-2002, 02:25 PM	#31
topal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 606	how about that? edge contact mm running edge mm nose width mm waist width mm tail width mm nose lenght mm scoop mm tail lenght mm tailkick mm 1270 1196 314 185 314 185 68 160 49 camber mm sidecut radius mm weight kg rec. stance cm rec angels° offset mm target group kg 9 8.4 3 50-54 25°/5° 25 60+

12-29-2002, 02:38 PM	#33
Saintgames Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 43	I'm with Primo... Rossignol is a ski company and should have stayed that way by all means, the only reason thier snowboarding half is still in business is because they had so many connections from hooking up large orders for rental shops with skis, they got them all to get boards from them as well. GO BURTON! I'm in Vermont and even got my daughter a Rossi board but only because it was free! Friggin $500 board and she still really wanted a Burton. =) Saintgames __________________ I be Kozmo *I"ll show you the stars*

12-29-2002, 03:10 PM	#36
topal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 606	burtons website recommends this board for me http://www.blue-tomato.at/shop/Produ...6NextPage%253D its cjeap and cool.. i think i am on my way.. this is my board..

12-31-2002, 01:40 AM	#37
primo DM Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 159	you got a burton seven? interesting to hear back, sorry i didnt get back here sooner, got abducted to go on some stupid journey to mt, baker __________________ This Space for Rent. CF4L!