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topal 12-28-2002 07:47 PM

ROSSIGNOL or BURTON ?
 
please choose one and recommend me a model...
thanks

49thParallel 12-28-2002 08:03 PM

That's an impossible question to answer. Both companies make good equipment specifically suited for different levels and styles. Your best bet is to check out the websites of both companies. I believe they have interactive applets to help you choose the best boards for your particular style.

Two other companies that I have been very happy with are Volkl and Atomic.

topal 12-28-2002 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
That's an impossible question to answer. Both companies make good equipment specifically suited for different levels and styles. Your best bet is to check out the websites of both companies. I believe they have interactive applets to help you choose the best boards for your particular style.

Two other companies that I have been very happy with are Volkl and Atomic.

Today i visited a rossingol shop.. costs are too high in rossignol, i checked burton on internet.. they are more expensive than rossignols models, but they have some equal fees on some models.. i am trying to collect best information like which brand do i need to prefer? and whats the best price for a begginer?.. actually costs have too much variables.. its up to which bindings, shoes.. board... the best price i can find is $650 for board+bindings+shoes.. its a rossignol model and board has a cover on the front face.. but i am not still sure about the quality of it.. i think i am gonna spend $1000 for board+shoes and bindings.. i like SLY model on rossignol.. what do you think?

Tipsy 12-28-2002 08:45 PM

http://www.hrgiger.com/boards.htm for a range of 4 boards from beginner to advanced. The lower end beginner boards are meant to be especially forgiving when starting out.

What the fuck though - who cares about the performance when any of the above boards have got simply THE best graphics anywhere ever. At least with giger boards when you fall on your face you're doing it on a cool board :)

Beastiepoo 12-28-2002 08:46 PM

topal - just my :2 cents:

DON'T buy a top of the line board if you are just starting out. You are better off getting the advice of the guy in the shop - try to go to a shop with multiple brands in stock - and listening to what he says. If you go anywhere reputable they won't just kit you out in the most expensive gear to get your cash, they should set you up with the best stuff to get you started. It will prolly still run you at LEAST $700 but you'll be happier in the long run. Besides that, top of the range boards are designed for the boarder who knows what they are doing and tend to be stiffer and harder to learn the basics on than a more mid range board.

This aside - DO spend your money on kickass boots and bindings. There is no point saving $60-$100 on your boots because regardless of your level, the better your boots fit you, the better ride you get. There are some boots that are stiffer or softer depending on what sort of use they'll get (pipe/park vs. piste/offpiste) but if you invest in high quality all around boots you'll be happier and in less pain.

49thParallel 12-28-2002 09:36 PM

Doh...forget my advice about Atomic and Volkl...as a long time skier, I assume everyone is talking about skis...

But the other advice still applies...don't rush out to spend money on a board that is above your ability. Get one that works for you. And as far as brands go...keeping up with the Jone's doesn't make a difference on the slopes. I can't remember the last time I ever heard anyone on the hill comment on someone's board. Early season I use my rock skis...circa 1980...on other days I use my Atomics ...2003 model ..just over $1,000 for the skis alone. Nobody knows or cares...it's all what works for you.

That said, don't go cheap..get the best you can afford.....just don't pay extra for flash

supportex 12-29-2002 02:08 AM

Completely agree with 49thParallel.
Don't pay attention to brand, just find the board that works for you.
I am snowboarding fanat for many years and tried many vendors, but the very best equipment for me is 3 y. o. HOT board... my friend uses BURTON... so i guess it doesn't really matter.

snowball179 12-29-2002 02:14 AM

I have a Buerton BMC and love it...but liked better my old custom :glugglug

ThePornNetwork 12-29-2002 02:15 AM

Have you said what type of riding you do...


For the weekdays (slow tree bashing I choose Burton... Lighter board and much better self tooning (sp?)

For a weekend with the boyz then I choose a Ross (well of the two you mentioned)

Shaun White would disagree with both of my answers.. (only because he is sponsored)

I would not buy a board untill you find an shop that allows you to take a model on the mountain... If you are near a snow freak community then you will find one...

Dude, why the fuck are you asking this question to a board that most of these fuckers jerk off to porn then ride the mountain...

ThePornNetwork 12-29-2002 02:18 AM

Oh,

If anyone rides the Colorado Mountians, hit me up...

We got plenty of snow and condos for the Fuk your own self community....

Fro 12-29-2002 02:19 AM

Nidecker puts Burton to shame.

Happy trails!

ThePornNetwork 12-29-2002 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fro
Nidecker puts Burton to shame.

Happy trails!



So you read that on their website huh..

Well, my paysite puts adult.com's to shame...

Hold on, let me put that on my website.......

Fro 12-29-2002 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by ThePornNetwork




So you read that on their website huh..

Well, my paysite puts adult.com's to shame...

Hold on, let me put that on my website.......

I ride a Nidecker Megalight. I have owned Burton.

Your website sucks.

ThePornNetwork 12-29-2002 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fro


I ride a Nidecker Megalight. I have owned Burton.

Your website sucks.

..


I ride a Walmart special and owned a Ros...

My website sucks...

Tipsy 12-29-2002 06:01 AM

ThePornNetwrok answered it - don't buy a board before trying the fucker first.

That said though those Giger graphics......

quiet 12-29-2002 06:11 AM

like some have already said, do not buy a top end board until you've ridden for awhile.

i've been riding for 14 years, i've owned burton, sims, ride, rossignol and santa cruz. i currently own and ride 4 burton boards and 2 sets of bindings.

imo burton make the best boards, boots and bindings. just my opinion, but i have been riding, and involved in the sport a long time.

bottom line, start with something cheap, and go from there. hopefully you'll get a chance to try out other friend's boards along the way. that's definitely a good way to experience a couple different setups...

:glugglug

Tipsy 12-29-2002 06:15 AM

Wanted to add to Quiet's post as he half mentioned it that the don't buy cheap isn't always true in boarding. Often when starting out the cheaper boards are by far the best for a beginner. They're far more forgiving and not as stiff as the higher end boards.

However you aint gonna know until you try it :)

quiet 12-29-2002 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
Often when starting out the cheaper boards are by far the best for a beginner. They're far more forgiving and not as stiff as the higher end boards.
agreed.

superweb 12-29-2002 06:43 AM

Fuck rossignol, they makes great Ski, shitty boards.
Burton is good, but expensive.
Check out Duotone, great quality, low prices.
For great board prices visit www.bluetomato.at, great e-shop, sales around 60% on last season's models.

quiet 12-29-2002 07:53 AM

http://a1016.g.akamai.net/f/1016/606...me/image16.jpg

look ma, i can fly

X37375787 12-29-2002 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
http://a1016.g.akamai.net/f/1016/606...me/image16.jpg

look ma, i can fly


jesus :eek2

topal 12-29-2002 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
http://a1016.g.akamai.net/f/1016/606...me/image16.jpg

look ma, i can fly

hes on the second pipde.. as you can see he passed landing area.. i wonder what happened when he land..

primo DM 12-29-2002 09:52 AM

BURTON

hands down

iv had multiple 60+ day seasons on my burtons and they have never failed me once, you get what you pay for! i currently ride a jim rippey pro model which was near $600 just for the board, all of my equipment i ride is burton except for my boots which are vans.

rossignol is a ski company and should have stayed that way by all means, the only reason thier snowboarding half is still in business is because they had so many connections from hooking up large orders for rental shops with skis, they got them all to get boards from them as well.

GO BURTON!

kuwawawah 12-29-2002 09:59 AM

i like burtons, i have a craig kelly and a brushie. i used to ride kempers

primo DM 12-29-2002 10:00 AM

i love super stiff, large and powerful boards, which is why i ride the rippey, but if you have never ridden before i would agree with quiet and check out the lower end boards, dont get something super sweet like the burton custom for example, as bad ass a board as it is, its not suited for beginers whatsoever, its not forgiving, really snappy, and more squirelly(sp?). so its not suited for a beginner.

my second choice is Option Snowboards. they are the shit, they are expensive, made in vancouver BC, but everyone i know who rides one raves about them and iv never seen one go bad. might be what im getting this year in fact. after 5 years on burton.

i have also ridden lib tech/gnu(mervin), K2, rossignol, morrow, sims, and god knows what all else, burton however has stood well and above thier competition throughout.

topal 12-29-2002 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by primo DM
BURTON

hands down

iv had multiple 60+ day seasons on my burtons and they have never failed me once, you get what you pay for! i currently ride a jim rippey pro model which was near $600 just for the board, all of my equipment i ride is burton except for my boots which are vans.

rossignol is a ski company and should have stayed that way by all means, the only reason thier snowboarding half is still in business is because they had so many connections from hooking up large orders for rental shops with skis, they got them all to get boards from them as well.

GO BURTON!

thanks for the advice.. i am new on snowboarding, sure i will start to jump from pipes in a short while when i get my own stuff.. i dont want to spend my money to non proffesional equipments.. So can you tell me a combiniation of Burton near $700-800 (board+bindings+boots) THANKS

primo DM 12-29-2002 10:22 AM

what mountain are you riding? if its got lots of parks and shit and thats the style of riding your wanting to do then get a shorter board. if its a big mountain, with lots of freeriding and powder, and thats what you want to do when your on the mountain then i would say to go with something a bit bigger.

i cna post you what i would get with that budget if you let me know those things.

primo DM 12-29-2002 10:33 AM

approx. height and weight are also needed.

topal 12-29-2002 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by primo DM
what mountain are you riding? if its got lots of parks and shit and thats the style of riding your wanting to do then get a shorter board. if its a big mountain, with lots of freeriding and powder, and thats what you want to do when your on the mountain then i would say to go with something a bit bigger.

i cna post you what i would get with that budget if you let me know those things.

i ride in Kartalkaya and Uludag in Turkey,
both these areas has different type of pists.. Uludag has a long (over 7-8km) slopes..
i am ready to spend $800.. my wheight is $65-70kg, i am 183 tall.. i think i will need a board over 157-160cm..

extreme 12-29-2002 11:02 AM

I love my Burton Custom.. But i have to agree with the others, it's not the best board to start out with.

There is a board selection script on www.burton.com which might give you some idea what you should look for. But the best way is really to find a local store where they actually know what they are talking about.

topal 12-29-2002 02:25 PM

how about that?
http://www.blue-tomato.at/snowboard/..._STYLE_166.jpg
edge contact mm
running edge mm
nose width mm
waist width mm
tail width mm
nose lenght mm
scoop mm
tail lenght mm
tailkick mm 1270
1196
314
185
314
185
68
160
49 camber mm
sidecut radius mm
weight kg
rec. stance cm
rec angels°
offset mm
target group kg 9
8.4
3
50-54
25°/5°
25
60+

Tipsy 12-29-2002 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by topal


thanks for the advice.. i am new on snowboarding, sure i will start to jump from pipes in a short while when i get my own stuff.. i dont want to spend my money to non proffesional equipments.. So can you tell me a combiniation of Burton near $700-800 (board+bindings+boots) THANKS

Did you read ANY of the advice about equipment when starting out? Good grief.

Saintgames 12-29-2002 02:38 PM

I'm with Primo...

Rossignol is a ski company and should have stayed that way by all means, the only reason thier snowboarding half is still in business is because they had so many connections from hooking up large orders for rental shops with skis, they got them all to get boards from them as well.

GO BURTON!

I'm in Vermont and even got my daughter a Rossi board but only because it was free! Friggin $500 board and she still really wanted a Burton. =)

Saintgames

topal 12-29-2002 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy


Did you read ANY of the advice about equipment when starting out? Good grief.

yes i did.. i found this model.. its cheaper than burtons models and ppl are saying this board is cool as burtons.. its ?500..

topal 12-29-2002 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Saintgames
I'm with Primo...

Rossignol is a ski company and should have stayed that way by all means, the only reason thier snowboarding half is still in business is because they had so many connections from hooking up large orders for rental shops with skis, they got them all to get boards from them as well.

GO BURTON!

I'm in Vermont and even got my daughter a Rossi board but only because it was free! Friggin $500 board and she still really wanted a Burton. =)

Saintgames

Ok guys, i will buy a BURTON.. ppl loves it... and my decide is this http://www.blue-tomato.at/shop/Produ...6NextP age%3D

topal 12-29-2002 03:10 PM

burtons website recommends this board for me
http://www.blue-tomato.at/shop/Produ...6NextPage%253D

its cjeap and cool.. i think i am on my way.. this is my board..

primo DM 12-31-2002 01:40 AM

you got a burton seven?

interesting to hear back, sorry i didnt get back here sooner, got abducted to go on some stupid journey to mt, baker :)


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