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Amputate Your Head 04-22-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 17065036)
Murderers, drug runners and human traffickers are obviously criminals and should be dealt with, but what does that have to do with the detail of whether they are legal or illegal immigrants? What do those criminals have to do with for example some illegal mexican who works as a gardener for some landscaping company? Illegal immigrant like that seems harmless, no?

Check this out woj...
I was in this crazy debate with this moron over here a while back, and he asked me,

HE: "Well, do you think should we give medical treatment to illegals?"
ME: "Yes... of course yes. You mean like, if someone breaks their leg while working in a field or something?"
HE: "Yeah. They should get medical treatment?"
ME: "Yes.. are you daft? He's a fucking human you know."
HE: "No, he's illegal. Well, he should.. he should go to prison first, then get treatment there."
ME: "What? Are you insane?"
HE: "It's an invasion. They want us all to be Socialists."
ME: [jaw hanging open....] [face-palm] "Dude, they're just looking for a better life man. They're not plotting to overthrow California."

This actually took place, right in my very own living room. I was a little bit high and I think I freaked out a little bit... lol

TheDoc 04-22-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 17065036)
Murderers, drug runners and human traffickers are obviously criminals and should be dealt with, but what does that have to do with the detail of whether they are legal or illegal immigrants? What do those criminals have to do with for example some illegal mexican who works as a gardener for some landscaping company? Illegal immigrant like that seems harmless, no?

Illegals has to do with drug runners because they use illegals to run drugs. Human trafficking is what happens when illegals come across the border, they pay people to be able to travel to the border and cross and get housing here, they are slaves afterwards - not free people. And they are often subject to being murdered by other illegals that are trafficking them, they die in mass loads on our road ways and kill Americans/Cops with the stupidity, and they murder Americans while they pass through American owned property..

If a person would break the law to get here, break the law to stay here, what makes you think they wouldn't break the law to do something else? Like not pay taxes for example, the company doesn't pay taxes, workers comp, you have to pay for an American that can't get a job, extra taxes.... when does it stop?

You people have an odd fantasy land in your head of what's really going on - maybe you should come visit.

Amputate Your Head 04-22-2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17065149)
you have to pay for an American that can't get a job, extra taxes.... when does it stop?

What about all the actual Americans that can't (or won't) get a job or pay taxes?
Wasn't the percentage reported recently something like, 40% of Americans are paying ALL the taxes?

Illegals are hardly the problem. At least the illegals aren't sucking the welfare & unemployment coffers dry like the non-working, non-tax paying Americans.

TheDoc 04-22-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17065094)
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Questions?

theking 04-22-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17065003)
The key word there is "emergencies".

But policing the U.S./Mexico border as an accepted permanent daily role for them is something else entirely. That's Border Patrol's duty.

The National Guard has previously been deployed to the border for an extended period of time and by all accounts were a very successful deterrent while they were there.

TheDoc 04-22-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17065152)
What about all the actual Americans that can't (or won't) get a job or pay taxes?
Wasn't the percentage reported recently something like, 40% of Americans are paying ALL the taxes?

Illegals are hardly the problem. At least the illegals aren't sucking the welfare & unemployment coffers dry like the non-working, non-tax paying Americans.

Well the people that can't, I support the social programs that support them and for everyone that has worked, they paid into those programs to use them, so I support that too. The people that won't, I can't solve other than through my votes. And people that don't pay taxes, we have laws for.

People that legally don't have to pay taxes, I support... I know several people that have setup life so only one person pays taxes and they pay none... statistics, pfft.

30 million illegals and you don't think that's a problem? Have you looked at the State of California?

Amputate Your Head 04-22-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17065156)
The National Guard has previously been deployed to the border for an extended period of time and by all accounts were a very successful deterrent while they were there.

Whether or not they were successful isn't the point. It's not their role and it's not a long term solution. It's a bandaid.

Amputate Your Head 04-22-2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17065157)
Well the people that can't, I support the social programs that support them and for everyone that has worked, they paid into those programs to use them, so I support that too. The people that won't, I can't solve other than through my votes. And people that don't pay taxes, we have laws for.

People that legally don't have to pay taxes, I support... I know several people that have setup life so only one person pays taxes and they pay none... statistics, pfft.

30 million illegals and you don't think that's a problem? Have you looked at the State of California?

I'm not suggesting that the illegal immigration isn't a problem. I'm saying it's not THE problem. It's a symptom. Fix the cause and the symptom goes away.

TheDoc 04-22-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17065168)
I'm not suggesting that the illegal immigration isn't a problem. I'm saying it's not THE problem. It's a symptom. Fix the cause and the symptom goes away.

The cause of the problem is poverty in Mexico. We don't have this problem with Canada. We can't correct this problem, we can only control it.

We can spend billions more on a wall, we can make it tougher for people to employee them, we can make it tougher for them to be here, we can protect the border more to make it so they are afraid to come here.

This and more has been going on to 'solve' the problem as best as we can without posting a full military force to occupy the border or tax us to death building a trillion dollar wall 1/3 of the away across the country. Some more troops, funds, corrections in the wall, a few layers and tougher immigration laws is exactly what we need.


Btw, the National Guard can enforce federal laws... that's how they have the power to do this.

Barefootsies 04-22-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17064124)
The day you are forced to carry ID, is the day you lost WW2.

True dat

Barefootsies 04-22-2010 07:43 PM

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The Demon 04-22-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 17065036)
Murderers, drug runners and human traffickers are obviously criminals and should be dealt with, but what does that have to do with the detail of whether they are legal or illegal immigrants? What do those criminals have to do with for example some illegal mexican who works as a gardener for some landscaping company? Illegal immigrant like that seems harmless, no?

Look up the word 'criminal' and how it pertains to the penal code.


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