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Grisey · 04-21-2010, 01:20 PM

hahaha @ mutt leaves the title tho "sleep with dogs you get fleas"

Grisey · 04-21-2010, 01:20 PM

dam it mutt's post was empty a minute ago

Mutt · 04-21-2010, 01:24 PM

what the fuck - i thought i made a thread

oh well - i'm sure that Webmaster Checks problems are tied to doing business with Brazzers - my opinion of course! just an opinion

96ukssob · 04-21-2010, 01:26 PM

this is why i stick with sites that either pay by wire transfer or CCBill

SiMpLe · 04-21-2010, 01:27 PM

holy shit

FUCK J0EL · 04-21-2010, 01:35 PM

DAMN!
A lot of big names in there

Agent 488 · 04-21-2010, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

this is why i stick with sites that either pay by wire transfer or CCBill

ccbill is a joke man. if you never noticed anything fucked with them last few years ....

willwank · 04-21-2010, 01:50 PM

Nothing but good news these days, blah

FlexxAeon · 04-21-2010, 01:54 PM

dayum. luckily i only push 2 sponsors from that list... and with those two i get epass not from the "webmastechecks" id

bullet dodged (i hope)

Bryan G · 04-21-2010, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

http://whopaidme.com/search/Webmaster+Checks/

Ouch

Axeman · 04-21-2010, 02:30 PM

ATKCash uses them too.

Hope Webmaster Checks or the sponsors that use them send out an official word soon.

Sly · 04-21-2010, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

this is why i stick with sites that either pay by wire transfer or CCBill

I don't understand your reasoning. You think that because you are getting paid by wire the companies you do business with are immune from being crippled by a DOJ investigation?

CC · 04-21-2010, 02:41 PM

Disturbing. I'd love to hear an official response.

BlackCrayon · 04-21-2010, 02:49 PM

shitballs. i just deposited a check from them on monday.

BlackCrayon · 04-21-2010, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I don't understand your reasoning. You think that because you are getting paid by wire the companies you do business with are immune from being crippled by a DOJ investigation?

the only good thing about wires is that they don't bounce.

candyflip · 04-21-2010, 02:57 PM

What was the name of the other company providing this service? If you know of any others please post them.

DatingGold · 04-21-2010, 02:58 PM

They're probably getting hit for doing money distribution and they aren't a financial institution.

CosmicTang · 04-21-2010, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

$50 if you stop posting lmk

Will you send it in cash?

marktruman · 04-21-2010, 03:12 PM

Im due a wire on 27th from a company who uses webmasterchecks, lets hope they find a way around it

BIGTYMER · 04-21-2010, 03:23 PM

Momma told me there'd be days like this.

shunga · 04-21-2010, 03:35 PM

Hopefully this will be fixed very soon. Let's not get too carried away with this. They're working on it.

TheDA · 04-21-2010, 03:36 PM

Brazzers just sent a similar email.

yourpussy · 04-21-2010, 03:43 PM

damn it
the big news
shit

ThumbLord · 04-21-2010, 03:59 PM

yep Brazzer e-mail in as well.

cybermike · 04-21-2010, 05:40 PM

holding on to a serious cash and sapphic cash check

Argos88 · 04-21-2010, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

ccbill is a joke man. if you never noticed anything fucked with them last few years ....

So, what is left then?

There is a very good reason, why some sponsors choose to pay with checks only... They make a lot of money off it, because there is always a percentage of checks that are never cashed for various different reasons and they have a positive balance at the end of the year off never cashed checks. That's why some sponsors, only pay with checks and they don't have epass available.

CHARGER · 04-21-2010, 06:19 PM

Damn tube sites i blame em !!

will76 · 04-22-2010, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

the only good thing about wires is that they don't bounce.

but they could also not be sent in the first place.

Everyone keeps saying how great wires are, but how much do wires typically cost to send? It's been a while since I have sent one personally since I don't handle the books and have someone doing that for me, but if I remember right I am paying at least $20 to send domestic and $35 or so for international. When I send I do it as a courtesy and pay t he cost. I am thinking most affiliate programs are not going to absurb this cost unless you are sending them thousands of dollars a pay period.

If they going to pass the wire fee back on me and I am going to have to pay $20 - $35 for a wire to collect in some cases $500 or less, either once a week or once every two weeks then do the math per year across several sponsors. No thanks, you can keep the wires, I will save thousands of dollars a year and I can wait a couple extra days for the paper check in the mail. Now if sponsors want to send a wire to me for free, by all means, I'll accept it. But I don't see many offering that and considering in my case ( and many other people) could have smaller checkes coming in from several sponsors it is retarded to pay a high fee just to collect a smaller amount weekly or by weekly. Yes you can raise your payout to $1,000 or what ever, so you only get sent the wire say once every 2 months opposed to every 2 weeks but 1. It's stupid to let someone else hold your money that long when you could be putting it to good use, and 2. the longer they hold it, the more money you are risking losing if the company goes out of business and stops paying.

So someone explain to me how wires are so great (unless they are free) and what I am missing here. Since I am a dinsour that rather gets a check (omg a couple days later) for typically free opposed to paying $300 - $750 a year per EACH sponsor using wires.

TrainWreckContent · 04-22-2010, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC

Holy fuck, when the DoJ comes a knockin Id be fuckign runnin!

as long as you have your shit in order you shouldnt have to worry about them coming....though i wouldnt care to have to deal with them investigating me...talk about a fucking mess they could cause you even if you are 100% legit

will76 · 04-22-2010, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88

So, what is left then?

There is a very good reason, why some sponsors choose to pay with checks only... They make a lot of money off it, because there is always a percentage of checks that are never cashed for various different reasons and they have a positive balance at the end of the year off never cashed checks. That's why some sponsors, only pay with checks and they don't have epass available.

They make 100x more off of having minimum balances then they do checks not cashed. I doubt there is a high percentage of checks not cashed. However, the sponsors who require you to make a minimum of $100 or more, if they are a larger company, likely have thousands of dollars in affiliate money owed but not sent because of minimums not met.

Paying with checks, besides being something that most people may be use to doing since it was the way things have been done for years, is cheap and simple to do, especially for smaller companies. How much does it cost a company to load epass and then send? Not sure if it is different for business accounts, but last time I loaded my epass with $100 I think I got credit for $95 or something like that. Point being if you putting tens of thousands of dollars on epass, what is more expensive, some check printing software a printer and a .42 cent stamp, or paying 5%+ to load an epass account? If your minimum amount to send a check is $100 and the sponsors gets charged 5%, what is cheaper $5 in epass fees to load/send or a check, enevelop and postage. Even sending international, how much can that cost in postage?

(some one correct me on the epass fees, its been so long since I used them since my bank (CHASE) blocks them.)

felipeav · 04-22-2010, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingGold

They're probably getting hit for doing money distribution and they aren't a financial institution.

No, they are a registered money transmitter.

felipeav · 04-22-2010, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

They make 100x more off of having minimum balances then they do checks not cashed. I doubt there is a high percentage of checks not cashed. However, the sponsors who require you to make a minimum of $100 or more, if they are a larger company, likely have thousands of dollars in affiliate money owed but not sent because of minimums not met.

Paying with checks, besides being something that most people may be use to doing since it was the way things have been done for years, is cheap and simple to do, especially for smaller companies. How much does it cost a company to load epass and then send? Not sure if it is different for business accounts, but last time I loaded my epass with $100 I think I got credit for $95 or something like that. Point being if you putting tens of thousands of dollars on epass, what is more expensive, some check printing software a printer and a .42 cent stamp, or paying 5%+ to load an epass account? If your minimum amount to send a check is $100 and the sponsors gets charged 5%, what is cheaper $5 in epass fees to load/send or a check, enevelop and postage. Even sending international, how much can that cost in postage?

(some one correct me on the epass fees, its been so long since I used them since my bank (CHASE) blocks them.)

The fees for a business account are $30 for a wire load (any amount) then $2/transfer.

Due · 04-22-2010, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

They make 100x more off of having minimum balances then they do checks not cashed. I doubt there is a high percentage of checks not cashed. However, the sponsors who require you to make a minimum of $100 or more, if they are a larger company, likely have thousands of dollars in affiliate money owed but not sent because of minimums not met.

Paying with checks, besides being something that most people may be use to doing since it was the way things have been done for years, is cheap and simple to do, especially for smaller companies. How much does it cost a company to load epass and then send? Not sure if it is different for business accounts, but last time I loaded my epass with $100 I think I got credit for $95 or something like that. Point being if you putting tens of thousands of dollars on epass, what is more expensive, some check printing software a printer and a .42 cent stamp, or paying 5%+ to load an epass account? If your minimum amount to send a check is $100 and the sponsors gets charged 5%, what is cheaper $5 in epass fees to load/send or a check, enevelop and postage. Even sending international, how much can that cost in postage?

(some one correct me on the epass fees, its been so long since I used them since my bank (CHASE) blocks them.)

A check can be bounced as late as up to 6 months after, I tried that in the past.

Fees in US banks is a lot higher than European banks for wires and then in european banks you pay for checks.

Atticus · 04-22-2010, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

but they could also not be sent in the first place.

Everyone keeps saying how great wires are, but how much do wires typically cost to send? It's been a while since I have sent one personally since I don't handle the books and have someone doing that for me, but if I remember right I am paying at least $20 to send domestic and $35 or so for international. When I send I do it as a courtesy and pay t he cost. I am thinking most affiliate programs are not going to absurb this cost unless you are sending them thousands of dollars a pay period.

If they going to pass the wire fee back on me and I am going to have to pay $20 - $35 for a wire to collect in some cases $500 or less, either once a week or once every two weeks then do the math per year across several sponsors. No thanks, you can keep the wires, I will save thousands of dollars a year and I can wait a couple extra days for the paper check in the mail. Now if sponsors want to send a wire to me for free, by all means, I'll accept it. But I don't see many offering that and considering in my case ( and many other people) could have smaller checkes coming in from several sponsors it is retarded to pay a high fee just to collect a smaller amount weekly or by weekly. Yes you can raise your payout to $1,000 or what ever, so you only get sent the wire say once every 2 months opposed to every 2 weeks but 1. It's stupid to let someone else hold your money that long when you could be putting it to good use, and 2. the longer they hold it, the more money you are risking losing if the company goes out of business and stops paying.

So someone explain to me how wires are so great (unless they are free) and what I am missing here. Since I am a dinsour that rather gets a check (omg a couple days later) for typically free opposed to paying $300 - $750 a year per EACH sponsor using wires.

It's not really a traditional wire. Through BofA I can transfer funds from my business account to another account (outside my bank) for $3 ($2 depending on volume). It shows in the others account in 3 days. I can do next day for $10 or same day for $25. This is similar to what payroll companies like ADP do for direct deposit.

I think if I physically went to my bank to send a wire the cost is $42 and it's same day.

BlackCrayon · 04-26-2010, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

but they could also not be sent in the first place.

Everyone keeps saying how great wires are, but how much do wires typically cost to send? It's been a while since I have sent one personally since I don't handle the books and have someone doing that for me, but if I remember right I am paying at least $20 to send domestic and $35 or so for international. When I send I do it as a courtesy and pay t he cost. I am thinking most affiliate programs are not going to absurb this cost unless you are sending them thousands of dollars a pay period.

If they going to pass the wire fee back on me and I am going to have to pay $20 - $35 for a wire to collect in some cases $500 or less, either once a week or once every two weeks then do the math per year across several sponsors. No thanks, you can keep the wires, I will save thousands of dollars a year and I can wait a couple extra days for the paper check in the mail. Now if sponsors want to send a wire to me for free, by all means, I'll accept it. But I don't see many offering that and considering in my case ( and many other people) could have smaller checkes coming in from several sponsors it is retarded to pay a high fee just to collect a smaller amount weekly or by weekly. Yes you can raise your payout to $1,000 or what ever, so you only get sent the wire say once every 2 months opposed to every 2 weeks but 1. It's stupid to let someone else hold your money that long when you could be putting it to good use, and 2. the longer they hold it, the more money you are risking losing if the company goes out of business and stops paying.

So someone explain to me how wires are so great (unless they are free) and what I am missing here. Since I am a dinsour that rather gets a check (omg a couple days later) for typically free opposed to paying $300 - $750 a year per EACH sponsor using wires.

yep, the fees for wires suck. i too prefer checks. in this day and age there is no reason for a wire to cost 40 bucks. no reason at all..

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