100 posts to the top. Interesting thoughts here.

Again with the drive way. I was in YOUR driveway to drop Dan off and YOU invited us in. We did not even want to come in because we had been shooting all day, we were just being polite. If you did not want us there then why did you open a bottle a wine and offer us a drink? Fuck dude this was more then 2 years ago and you are still holding on to this? I had totally forgot about that and you.

She is calling you out for your bad advice about mock raping random girls. And for that you do deserve to be called a DOUCHE!

I don't Stutter bitch. And had my dog caused any damage to someone else's property I would man up and take care of it instead of being a pussy and denying responsibility.

I am dissapointed that you don't want to get together and it seems you are a violent person but only with young girls in the bedroom.

No worries though I am sure we will run into each other soon. :thumbsup

interesting thread.

Amazing twist. Hope to see you and Ashley this week, Jack.

We would love to see you and Goodgirl too! But we don't know yet if we can make it. We just lost our Tigger The Wonderdog last week. She had a beautiful life of 18 years. But we are both still so devastated. (Hence some of the anger in this thread)

But if this fucktard ******* is attending then I may have to come out for a day or so. :winkwink:

Hi Jack - hope all is well my friend. Please give my best to the lovely wife. Hope to work with you guys again one day soon!!!

I don't run in your circle other than a few really cool people. Actually I don't have any issue with you. Your wife called me a douche so I took the bait and bit back. No big deal. Enjoy your life. I will enjoy mine raising my daughter to steer clear of freaks like Max and "men" like you. And where did I say I like to get violent with women? I said I don't really like any type of abusive sex but many younger women seem to want abuse at least some of the time. Lots of girls like spanking, getting tied up, choked out, called names, etc. Perhaps it is from all the porn they watched growing up.

My point in this thread is that these girls are equal players in all of this. There is no gun to their head. They accept money. They made an adult decision. And in their personal lives many of them want to be dominated in a somewhat abusive way in bed.

Sorry to hear about Tigger. Will catch you on the rebound if not Phoenix.

Hi *******, would love to hook up and grab some dinner with you and the family. It's been too long. I'll email you :thumbsup

Jack and Ashley I am sorry. Was being a kid on a keyboard. When I get called a name I get pissed off just like any of you. When I met you guys I thought you were decent people.

I guess I have some pent up anger from when these models start crying an acting like victims. As anyone who as worked with these girls for a long time knows many times WE have been the ones victimized by THEM with false accusations, theft, etc. Yes in some situations they do really get fucked over but I don't see it in this case. Max throat fucked her, slapped her a little, made her cry. She accused him of holding a gun to her head, raping her ,etc. I think what she did was 100 times worse.

Republican? How dare you!! I'm a moderate Democrat.

And I'm not a guy either. :mad:

Didn't you hear?? I'm the one that turned in Dirty D. :winkwink:

There was a rape case years ago where a college student held a woman for days raping and torturing her. He got off and walked because the "judge" said the woman wanted it because of the emails they had exchanged before. How she had said oh yeah I want this and I like that and I want you to do all this other shit to me. So on which day when he had her kidnapped and holding her against her will with her saying no & stop didn't the rapist and the judge understand? Just because it started off one way doesn't mean that's how she wanted it to end or expected. But this guy got off because of EMAILS that were written beforehand.

Well if I have to put my 2 cents in, I'm kinda leaning in the same direction as baddog...

sorry...you sounded like republican Potter Stewart when you said this...

Oh my god...I don't care what the story is that video is fucked..

Hey guys..

Think for a second that you're a chick.

Now think of the prospect of letting Max Hardcore have sex against you...

.......What the fuck right!? ... girls are messed up. :P

I dont have an opinion on the topic. But one thing I noticed is that the content that he went went down for is still around, can still be purchased, and is all over being pirated.
In the end, what good did his conviction do? That's the paradox of censorship.
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control her? LOL..you obv don't know Ashley Fires!

Tigger was an awesome sweet dog and I love you both sooo much!!!XOXOX

I think you don't understand. Most of the ppl know what the difference between what is right and what is wrong... that's also why most of laws say it's ok to do porn but it's not ok to rape or to kill... but of course there are some exceptions in every community that abuse the laws. I don't consider this video as plain rape, it was porn abuse. You can notice from the very beginning of the video she didn't enjoyed it. Perhaps she was expecting something else and didn't know how this will look like this. I've seen many videos of pissing to mouth, gagging, vagina fisting, slapping in face, talking dirty... etc but it's not about it, it's about the way he did it to her against her will.

thanks for sharing that site with us and the 20 exit pages that came with it :Oh crap

Something being "far worst" is not the point here. The girl in this video was only deep throated. She wasn't gang banged by 10 black guys, beaten with a stick, bound and gagged, etc....

The "sexual acts" are not what is in question. Each person's perception of what is "hardcore sex" or not is different. So the main question isn't what is "too hardcore". It is the state of mind of the model involved. If she is tied up and being whipped, and when spanked she replies "mmmm give me more" and you can tell she likes it then no problem. If someone is being deep throated and she is going along with it fine then... no problem.

But when a girl is fucking crying, gaging, and saying she can't breath and the piece of shit just pumps her harder and holds down her arms and she squirms to try to get away, then there is a problem.

It could have been a tame girl / girl scene, and if the other girl wigs out 1/2 way through and says she can't do it, crying and in distrest, do you stop production and let her leave or do you hold her down and do it more.

You people are focusing too much on "oh ive seen worse done". Which is irrelevant, we have all seen worse than a rough deep throat scene, but have you even seen a model in more distress and couldn't take it and the scene continued on ?

(just answering your question) it prevents him from making more content. But i agree with the point you are making, the content he got convicted for is still out there. It just shows you the govt cares more about punishing people than it does about the victims, which in this case it considers everyone who sees this "obscene content" as a victim. Does it try to remove the content, no, just punish the person who made it.

If you want to promote his new site, HardcoreMax.com, you should here. :error

Have you ever gone to the movies and seen a girl beg or plead for her life, like in Halloween or Fri the 13th yet she gets killed anyway. Would it surprise you to know that the girl in the video had dinner with Max that night and did more scenes after that.
Have you been on any of his sets or just seen final product.

Just because you find it vile and disgusting.. as I also do... doesnt mean girl did it against her will. Ive been on tons sets like that.. for Max and for others..and every one was the same.. girls instructed to play the role. Keep that in mind before you judge.

Also there are plenty of girls who do a simple sex scene, who most of you people out there promote and make money with...who are also traumatized by the experience. WHo have left sets crying from a simple sex scene. Keep that in mind also as you judge .

The problem is...people draw conclusions on what they see when they have no clue what the facts really are.

http://api.ning.com/files/jHmggeVSjl...poonbender.jpg

Can't we all just get along?

He's a sick fuck

You are confusing actresses with porn models. There was no "acting" in that video. Sure there is acting in Hollywood, this was not a scary movie, where someone was being pretend killed.

So you saying she wasn't "distressed" and that she was taking it fine in that scene? That she was fine with everything? that her crying and squirming to get away, gagging was all part of her acting for the scene?

Did I say he made her do the shoot against her will? Nope. It seems pretty obvious she consented to do the scene and to be there. But I don't buy it that she was fake crying and fake gagging and was just squirming because it felt good. At THAT moment she was distressed, uncomfortable and having a hard time handling what he was doing to her. When she says " I can't breathe" the asshole does it harder and holds her down so she can't pull her head away to get air. I don't care if he took her out to dinner later or not or if she filed charges, I can prejudge all I want pretty easy from watching the video and seeing what happened.

So what would you have done if you were in charge would you have stopped the scene or thought it was all good she was doing some kick ass acting, and she consented to be there so no need to stop, just hold her down harder and choke her more? And that would all be good because anyone that wasn't there wouldn't have the right to judge you because they weren't there. :disgust

and before you confuse me with someone who is uptight. Deep throating doesn't bother me, 100 person bukkaka doesn't bother me, someone doing bdsm and making the other person bleed doesn't bother me, water sports doesn't bother me. The sexual act doesn't bother me, what does is that he was forcing her to do something at that moment that she obviously was having a hard time with so he did it worse instead of stopping and letting her pull away.

Were you there on set. I was.

Spoken like a true educated individual. And yes, I think anyone who likes that type of stuff is a sick fuck.

this thread is DEEP baby DEEP

We know you were on the set, i've read where you posted that a couple times already... so why don't you answer my questions? If you saw something different in person than what we saw on video then please share. Not what happened before the shoot or later when she went out to dinner, but when it was actually happening.



I wonder if Max's lawyers tried that defense at his trial.... " Members of the jury, where you at the set? If you say no, then how can you judge him!! " lmao.

wha? i've never heard of max doing anything with scat..

sorry :Oh crap

What do you say to the girls who enjoy being abused?

If anyone wants to see the whole video it's here...

http://video.xnxx.com/video362764/he...ie_goodbye_ass

but it's hard to watch... people who watch such stuff to get aroused imo aren't 100% mentally mature and healthy.

:disgust

Joe just told me that he was there and she was acting, it was scripted and we are all idiots because we don't know what goes on the set. IMO If it was acting then there was nothing wrong with it as she was cool with it and was acting. I've never seen a porn girl act that good before though. Fooled me if what he is saying is true. Makes you wonder though why someone wouldn't have just said from the get go that it was fake. I believe everyone else here thought it was real too, not sure why there isn't a disclaimer on the site, or Joe could have enlighted us on page 1 instead of insulting us and not sharing that little tid bit of info.

Ok after seeing the first couple minutes of the FULL video, I would have assumed she was acting. I can also see why he eneded up in jail, he pees in her face and in her mouth :Oh crap smacks her across the face and then fucks her throat some more. IF this was the nature of the entire video and she went along with it for 22+ minutes then obviously she was ok with it. The original video clip posted here looked like they were having normal sex then he flips her over holds her down and chokes her with his cock, she says i can't breathe he does it harder. Taken out of context of the full video the clip leaves a lot to the imagination if she is participating in this and acting or he decided to turn regular sex into something she was not prepared for. Obviously in the context of the entire video, I don't think anyone else would question it.

/my thoughts

Joe you could have just said it was fake from the start and she was acting.

everyone else can continue to discuss if it is distgusting or not.

I have to agree with you there... It's pretty disturbing.

wow you guys sure are a judgmental group for a bunch of pornographers! What would happen if a "group of your peers" suddenly decided that the porn that YOU PRODUCE is sick and twisted?
You guys act as if Max Hardcore's stuff is the only porn out there like that..it is NOT. and who are you to judge what people masturbate to..YOU MAKE A LIVING ON PEOPLE off of people masturbating! Different strokes for different folks..you ever hear that? the girls are legal, nobody forced them to be there, so why are you guys all high and mighty, not only judging Max but the people that watch his stuff? "aren't 100% mentally mature and healthy" oh please, it's fantasy.
seems kinda silly to me..

I bet you all think Lia19 is really 19 years old too? LOL:1orglaugh

Um I believe I did Judge Will in post 127
:Just because you find it vile and disgusting.. as I also do... doesnt mean girl did it against her will. Ive been on tons sets like that.. for Max and for others..and every one was the same.. girls instructed to play the role. Keep that in mind before you judge. "

Max has never done scat... Darrah the more you speak the bigger a fucking idiot you seem to be, I was pro Darrah for a bit but for you to post that I heard shit and a girl was begging to get help.. YOURE A FUCKING TOOL, go back to where you came from. Or should we call you FML TUBE

Wait... She's not?

this girl is a whore.. stop blamin max, he makes good pawnooo

You`re right bro. It happens to me a few years ago....

In the context of seeing the full scene, as disgusted as I am, I will have to alter my position on the rape allegation. I don't think she was prepared for the level of depravity in the scene she was participating in and was in distress at many points but obviously was still willing to go ahead and continue no matter what abuse she was subject to.