You are making a lot of bold and what appear to be bullshit claims.

Let's see some proof.

max thought he could thumb his nose at the feds and he found out you cant..

they wanted his ass ever since the whole thing with the girl that said she was underage during a scene..

he's a fucking idiot and got what he deserved...

not for the content that he shot, but for his stupidity....




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Absolutely a disgusting dirtbag that definetly got what he deserves.

I thought it was rediculous too that they had him on that porn documentary that I think CNN? did a while back. Fucking disgraceful and is what makes our industry look bad and give the wrong impressions to folks.

True dat.

And you want us to believe you are not fmltube? You sure act like her if not. :2 cents:

What's so complicated? Stop and no means stop and no. Many things happen in the middle of what started off as consensual but changes and is then forced on them when they never consented to that.

This is how I always am. And cut it with me being someone else.

This is what I'm always told by either the women themselves or the people who them.

But their reputations will be ruined and no one will want to hire them fearing they'll flake or their prices will drop.

Stefani Morgan herself gave a very lengthy detailed account of her rape and what happened after. I read it.

Rape as a whole isn't taken seriously by society. So when anyone in the adult industry says they've been raped, many in law enforcement and society don't do anything because of the typical ignorant attitude they have about "how can a porn star be raped when she has sex for a living". Many of the women, and men, in this industry have said how the police didn't take their rape cases seriously when they went to file charges. Many others didn't even file a report because of their friends who had gone to the police after they were raped and they were treated badly and blamed for what happened.

I've seen much worse "rape" videos online than that video.

Shit where girls are getting held down, tied up, fucked with machines, gangbanged, etc.

If I had a dick that far down my throat I'd be choking and crying too - but I don't think I heard her tell him to stop once.

And why sign the releases and do the exit interview if you thought you got raped?

darrah will not be persuaded the clip was not a rape. He thinks what his eyes say is correct & there is not room for other views. Must be a republican.

Its not complicated, I have done lots of scenes that were off the wall, especially spanking. And the girl consented prior to the shoot well knowing it will be hard. But when shoot started and she asked to stop, we stopped without giving a second thought. There is nothing wrong with stopping and killing a scene mid stream. It happens.

I will say this about Max. I dont approve what he shoots. Ive done camera work for about 20 scenes for him and the girls were all WELL INFORMED of what they were doing. A couple couldnt take it, scene was killed and Max compensated them nicely for the attempt. Theres plenty worse stuff out there. Take a peek at some Euro fetish sites where girls get beat within an inch of thier life. I think its sick, but they do it and get paid for it. I think Max pushed the wrong perople the wrong way and yes he got what he deserved for that.

Did he rape her ? no. It seems obvious she consented to be there and could have started yelling for help if she was being raped. Unless she says otherswise like if he drugged her, or forced her to do the scene, or threatened her... none of us here know that one way or the other just from watching that video but chances are she consented.

Obviously she didn't want to be deep throated, couldn't breathe and the piece of shit was holding her down not letting her up on purpose. That's not porn, thats upsetting. If that gets you off you have serious problems. It's one thing to role play, or play rough when both parties consent to that type of activity and enjoy it. She more than likely agreed to do the scene because she needed the money but it is pretty apparent she didn't enjoy that and that wasn't what she signed on for.

Really can't get much closer to rape than that. She "consented" to do the scene but seeing her struggle to try to breathe and the asshole holding her down so she can't, at that moment she was obviously in distress.

That is everything that is bad about this industry. That is beyond pushing it to the limit and no surprise that the vast majority of people would find that obscene and he ended up in jail.

makes you wonder then when someone says " I can't breathe" and is crying and the guy holds her down and just does it harder....

I think a lot of people can infur that "I can't breathe" and crying to mean the person wants to stop. Did she say stop? no. but does it have to come down to symantics? (i'm asking not telling)

I'm sure Max now knows how it feels to get a cock shoved down his throat in prison

what really disturbs me is when all of a sudden im seeing dick and maxs face looking down

thats what is really terrible....same with people shooting from down below on the bj...give it up...no one likes to see the guys face for fuck sakes

This industry does not exactly attract the cream of the crop of Human Beings!

I have been on both ends of BDSM porn. No scene should ever continue when someone says "I can't breathe" and if they are crying you ask if they are okay, if they need a min. and if they want to continue Period. They do not have to verbalize a "NO" It is the responsibility of everyone involved to make sure the talent is comfortable.

For those of you supporting this sack of shit I have this to say to you-

You are a pathetic loser if you need to smack a girl around in bed to get off. I hope it helps to compensate for lack of sexual skill or an inadequate penis. :winkwink:

BTW not all of us refer to ourselves or fellow models as "whores" Sounds like you hang out with some quality individuals!

Speaking of, your GF also sounds like quite a catch! Playing rough now and again is all good but if she requires this treatment most of the time then I feel sorry for whatever daddy might have done to her. Or she may have some kind of deep seated emotional issues.

And guys DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS DOUCHE! Try this on a random girl and you might be cellmates with Mr. Hardcore. Or better yet get the wrong bitch and you will be missing you penis!:)

I love when porn girls call themselves "talent". Being born with a vagina is not a talent.

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Could you please not pollute this thread with your actual knowledge and first hand experience.

We were doing just fine running on Darrah's "heard it from someone who heard it from someone" emotionally fueled assumptions.

Thanks in advance.

eh, I've seen way worse. Just because it isn't our cup of tea who are you to judge? Just sayin.

LOL. Darrah loves threads like this. I'm not surprised half of the posts in this thread are from them. "This is exactly what happens on set! Even tho I've never actually been on a set.." LOL

First, I never referred to myself as "Talent" I am much more then talent.:)

Second, I assume you earn an income from promoting girls that call themselves "talent?"

that type of content is created for sick fucks.

Right on...You said it best.... :thumbsup

Are you the "Joe" that was mentioned in the second video as the Max Hardcore wanna be cameraman?

Yep thats me, I was the camera man on that shoot. Ill say it 100 times , I think what he shoots is not for me.

But I will say these points..that Neesa fails to mention..

Her quote when she got there was that she was a Max Hardcore fan and came to LA to shoot with him.

Seeing her now she looks cracked out beyond belief, who knows whats she done in last 8 years. I had nothing to do with her being there. As a matter or fact after the shoot , she came back to do POV with me. ANd then we even shot in San Francisco. Not sure where the police report crap comes about on me. Anyone who knows me knows I treat all the girls I work with like gold.

Dont believe everything you see or hear. FOr how she states her case, she coulda and prolly was ppaid for that. As you can tell, the drugs were kicking in nicely on her.

Thank god Darrah doesn't have any legal authority, lol...

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Fair enough! :thumbsup

I don't think that would happen to any girl who flaked on a Max Hardcore shoot. He might threaten them with that though.

I would of pulled the girl out and walked out of the room. No girl I've met in the porn business was that good at acting.

Nobody cares what you say.

You're quacking in the wrong pond.

Max is the man!

Free Max Hardcore!

I came

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You got that right. However, double anal with well endowed black men, is in fact, pure talent. A gift from God, if you will.

I am not watching that.

ROFLMAO :thumbsup

Looks like a typical Tuesday night around my place.

scene like that don't bother me as much as the idea someone watches scenes like that with their pants around their ankles, hands on their dicks...

I watched the whole video out of curiosity and to may the judgment and it?s whole like this. Simply disgusting. Ok, let me ask you one simple question. If someone physically with good health agree on writing to be killed is it ok to kill him? If someone agree on writing to have his healthy legs amputated is it right to amputee his healthy legs? This girl was stupid enough to agree on writing to be abused this way? but is it right to abuse her this way? The ones of you that don?t see anything wrong here are not mature enough. What is more you probably got aroused be watching it or you promote this shit so you are unhappy that someone says it? wrong. The ones of you that are mad watching it ...you are a bit too sensitive. I?ve really seen much worse things done by humans to humans even in real life. Get mature all you fuckers! :2 cents:

But I don't say he should be sentenced to prison either.

I've always hated his content. Disgusts me.

But I've always supported his right to make movies. Obscenity is BS.

No one forced these girls to be in his movies.

It's laughable and sad that people in porn think he deserves to be in prison.

You know for a fact these girls refer to themselves and each other as whores all the time. I don't hardly ever use the word so don't turn it back on me.

What young girl does not like rough treatment sometimes during sex? I am sure there are some but I never end up dating them. Seems like they pretty much all demand it at least some of the time. The last pornstar I fucked wanted me to tie her up with 50 ft of rope, tape her mouth shut, and spank her raw. So I am the bad guy now? BTW my gf IS a catch who is strong, talented, and absolutely gorgeous. AND she does not have a cuckhold as a boyfriend/husband. Remember you and your cuckold were at my house and one of my foster care German Shepherds jumped up and lightly scratched the clearcoat on his sissy car after he parked it in my driveway? He had the nerve to suggest that I pay for a new paint job. Was he going to send you as an enforcer? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

My words may not have been so carefully chosen in this thread so let me clearly state how i feel:

1. Max is a scumbag but the girl is not his victim in any way
2. The girl is a lying sack of shit lowlife
3. I don't really enjoy rough sex but these young girls in their 20s seem to always ask for it.
4.Men should not be victimized by women who ask for this type of sex or agree to appear in and profit from videos depicting this type of sex, and then come back and claim rape.
4. Again, Max is a total scumbag and I would never let him talk to my daughter without knocking his silly cowboy hat off his head but I trust his word over this hooker any day.

I think Aaron said it best when he explained that these girls are later ashamed they made a video and then come back and claim rape as a way to pass the blame. I agree 100%

I dont like Max's content at all. But with that said your flawed logic is making a great case as to why ALL porn should be banned....

Alright you little Bitch you want to drag into your pathetic reply. Then so be it. I will address just what you have directed towards me. I don't think you really want to be talking any shit about me. I do remember you. I was at your place which is about 5mins from me. Your dog did jump on all over my brand new Highlander Hybrid. Scratched more then clear coat and when I called you on it you stuttered, got really defensive, claimed not to have a lot of money at the moment and said you didn't think that was your fault. I never came at you hard. I did have my dog in the car and I know your Shepherd was only trying to get in there to play. But no apology, nothing. Weren't even man enough to take responsibility for your own animal. I said I was going to get it detailed and we would wait and see the outcome. I did and it never really come out but I figured who cares, no big deal. I called you back and told not to worry about it. Then you told me you wanted to shoot Ashley and I said I would call and let you know. Never called you back and that was that.

As far as the cuckold thing goes. Obviously you don't know me at all. My wife has done a hand full of boys on film, all with people I know and only one scene that I did not direct. Once again for a good friend. I tell her who she works with as far as the men goes. Ask anyone on here that knows us I am far from any kind of cuckold.

And sissy? really? You want to do this. I am no keyboard warrior like yourself. I am not one to go back and forth. I have never talked shit on GFY about anyone nor has anyone talked shit about me. So please let us meet in person and settle this. You live so close it would be really easy for us to get together and take care of this.

Let's leave the boards to business and you can talk all the trash you want when we see each other. Email me your number or I can get it or just name a time and a place.

GREAT JOB *******... you managed to piss off the nicest 2 peeps in the buisness. Ashley and Jack. But I guess your accomplishments in the porn industry speaks for itself.

I think he's a piece of shit. Not for the porn he shot, but for his complete lack of respect for women. If it weren't for women-we'd all be watching gay porn.

So show up at a trade show in front of your peers and introduce yourself.

That is so not how it went down. You were the one stuttering. Dude your girl is calling me names on a message board. Control her. I am not a tough guy but would never back down to you ever. I am also not a violent person. So no I am not interested in meeting up with you. You win I guess. Congrats to you sir!

BTW, you came to MY place and drove on to my drive way and I had not even invited you or ever met you. You came with someone else. The dogs are always controled BEHIND a gate. Stay the fuck out.