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NAUGHTY AMERICA going after affiliates!!

03-24-2010, 07:06 AM

NAUGHTY AMERICA OFFERS AMNESTY TO CYBERSQUATTERS

Naughty America announced today a unique and one time amnesty program
for cybersquatters and typosquatters. Naughty America?s amnesty offer
is simple. Legal action will not be taken against cybersquatters and
typosquatters who transfer their infringing domain names to Naughty
America on or before April 2, 2010.

Naughty America owns the registered trademarks for ?Naughty America?
and numerous domain names incorporating the mark. Naughty America?s
long-standing ownership of the mark has not prevented infringers from
illegally profiting from Naughty America?s strong brand recognition
and goodwill by registering domain names that incorporate ?Naughty
America? or variations of the mark.

To participate in the amnesty program, anyone who has registered a
domain name that incorporates the trademark ?Naughty America? or
variations and misspellings of the mark needs to do the following:

1. Immediately stop any and all use of domain names that include the
trademark ?Naughty America? or variations and misspellings of ?Naughty
America;?

2. Transfer to Naughty America any and all rights in and to the
infringing domain names; and

3. Provide Naughty America with satisfactory proof that the domain
name has been transferred to LTI no later than April 2, 2010.

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03-24-2010, 07:11 AM

Looks like they are putting the hammer down.

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03-24-2010, 07:11 AM

I thought the most interesting part of that email was the list of trademarks they say they own. NA for example (I guess not applicable can ever be used).

I've bolded some of the more interesting ones claimed as trademarks.

Other registered trademarks owned by Naughty America for which the amnesty program is available are: American Daydreams, Asian 1 on 1, Ass Masterpiece, Diary of a MILF, Diary of a Nanny, Find Your Fanny, Housewife 1 on 1, Latin Adultery, My First Sex Teacher, My Friend’s Hot Mom, My Naughty Latin Maid, My Sister’s Hot Friend, NA, NA Naughty America Est. 1776, Naughty Bookworms, Naughty Cribs, Naughty Flipside, Naughty Office, Neighbor Affair, Nobody Does It Better, Seduced By a Cougar, SoCal Coeds, Suite 703, The Difference Is Here, The Naughty American, and What’s New.

If these three in particular are actual trademarks, then I suspect they'd be easily challenged.

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03-24-2010, 07:12 AM

Not good I believe. Its like kicking affiliates ass.....
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03-24-2010, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by robwod

I thought the most interesting part of that email was the list of trademarks they say they own. NA for example (I guess not applicable can ever be used).

I've bolded some of the more interesting ones claimed as trademarks.

If these three in particular are actual trademarks, then I suspect they'd be easily challenged.

That's just crazy. What next? I can't use the word naughty in an ad I run for models......

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03-24-2010, 07:16 AM

So Naughty America wants to sue my friends hot mom for her american daydreams found in the diary of a milf. All I gotta say is "What's new?" Anyone have Ste 703 for the Phoenix conference?

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03-24-2010, 07:55 AM

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03-24-2010, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by Roald

nothing wrong with protecting your brand

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03-24-2010, 07:59 AM

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03-24-2010, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by Roald

nothing wrong with protecting your brand

Sorry but when someone says "NA" I don't think of Naughty America.

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03-24-2010, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by kristin

Sorry but when someone says "NA" I don't think of Naughty America.

I agree on that one.

BTW I do think of Naughty America but that may be my perverted mind.

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03-24-2010, 08:04 AM

is this the same for affiliates that are using the site to promote just them? if thats the case i see this being nothing more than biting the hand that feeds you. they allowed it back when the affiliate registered the domain and spent their time and money to develop it, and they accepted traffic from the domain for who knows how long.

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03-24-2010, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by beemk

is this the same for affiliates that are using the site to promote just them? if thats the case i see this being nothing more than biting the hand that feeds you. they allowed it back when the affiliate registered the domain and spent their time and money to develop it, and they accepted traffic from the domain for who knows how long.

Most definitely. Reading between the lines, it seems like they're saying "Well, all mistypes is traffic we should be getting anyway because the user was trying to directly access our sites so you need to transfer those domains over pronto."
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03-24-2010, 08:14 AM

Next they will be dmca'ing sites and removing them from google for using the words Naughty, and later on the page America, or like stated 'NA' LOL.

Take your shit down now and save yourself and them the headaches. Or let some cheeky lawyer decide if your site is worth taking.

Looks like they'd prefer to do this marketing/branding thing on their own from here on in.

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03-24-2010, 08:16 AM

They are just trying to save money. It costs $1500 plus attorney fee's to register a domain name dispute with the National Arbitration Forum. The cost to the respondent is nothing unless they hire a lawyer, which shouldn't be needed if they know how to put a coherent few paragraphs together and aren't using the domains in bad faith.

Terms Naughty and America are generic terms, so this is a domain grab by NA nothing more. With that said I believe when you have a trademark you have to defend it if someone might be infringing or you risk losing the trademark. I don't know if that is 100% true but it was told to my when I was sued, and I won:-)

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03-24-2010, 08:17 AM

i gave up on them a long time ago. there once killer program has been a clusterfuck the last couple years.
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03-24-2010, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by Roald

nothing wrong with protecting your brand

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03-24-2010, 08:20 AM

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03-24-2010, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by Agent 488

i gave up on them a long time ago. there once killer program has been a clusterfuck the last couple years.

I don't blame you. We have given ourselves some self-inflicted wounds, but we are working on making Naughty America one of top programs again.

Feel free to contact me directly at eddie@naughtyamerica to discuss.

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03-24-2010, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Robocrop

NAUGHTY AMERICA OFFERS AMNESTY TO CYBERSQUATTERS

Naughty America announced today a unique and one time amnesty program
for cybersquatters and typosquatters. Naughty America?s amnesty offer
is simple. Legal action will not be taken against cybersquatters and
typosquatters who transfer their infringing domain names to Naughty
America on or before April 2, 2010.

Naughty America owns the registered trademarks for ?Naughty America?
and numerous domain names incorporating the mark. Naughty America?s
long-standing ownership of the mark has not prevented infringers from
illegally profiting from Naughty America?s strong brand recognition
and goodwill by registering domain names that incorporate ?Naughty
America? or variations of the mark.

To participate in the amnesty program, anyone who has registered a
domain name that incorporates the trademark ?Naughty America? or
variations and misspellings of the mark needs to do the following:

1. Immediately stop any and all use of domain names that include the
trademark ?Naughty America? or variations and misspellings of ?Naughty
America;?

2. Transfer to Naughty America any and all rights in and to the
infringing domain names; and

3. Provide Naughty America with satisfactory proof that the domain
name has been transferred to LTI no later than April 2, 2010.

Good job Naughty!

Naughty America provides our affiliates with free content to build traffic to their sites to make money. As a company, we have decided to protect our brands. Nothing more nothing less.

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03-24-2010, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by naeddie

I don't blame you. We have given ourselves some self-inflicted wounds, but we are working on making Naughty America one of top programs again.

Feel free to contact me directly at eddie@naughtyamerica to discuss.

so you are trying to make your program best by snatching domains from your affiliates? The domains on which they have worked to make them top in SERPs?

If a affiliate is promoting your sites with the said domain name, what's wrong with that? You're ultimately getting the revenue and the affiliate is paid their part. Protecting your trade mark is a great idea, I agree, but you should fight with those who are promoting others with your trademarks.

In the current scenario, affiliates will be pissed off and looks like all you want is some more free traffic and this will ultimately result in more self-inflicted wounds!

I'm sorry If I sound harsh and I have nothing to do with Naughty America but It is not the right way to treat the affiliates. I've never heard of staff members being sued because they are working to make money for their company and themselves!
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03-24-2010, 08:52 AM

i got the same email some weeks back. contacted them immediatelly via icq, got a talk and everything is solved with no problems and no changes on both sides. it is only about how you use their trademark

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03-24-2010, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by Robocrop

NAUGHTY AMERICA OFFERS AMNESTY TO CYBERSQUATTERS

Naughty America announced today a unique and one time amnesty program
for cybersquatters and typosquatters. Naughty America?s amnesty offer
is simple. Legal action will not be taken against cybersquatters and
typosquatters who transfer their infringing domain names to Naughty
America on or before April 2, 2010.

Naughty America owns the registered trademarks for ?Naughty America?
and numerous domain names incorporating the mark. Naughty America?s
long-standing ownership of the mark has not prevented infringers from
illegally profiting from Naughty America?s strong brand recognition
and goodwill by registering domain names that incorporate ?Naughty
America? or variations of the mark.

To participate in the amnesty program, anyone who has registered a
domain name that incorporates the trademark ?Naughty America? or
variations and misspellings of the mark needs to do the following:

1. Immediately stop any and all use of domain names that include the
trademark ?Naughty America? or variations and misspellings of ?Naughty
America;?

2. Transfer to Naughty America any and all rights in and to the
infringing domain names; and

3. Provide Naughty America with satisfactory proof that the domain
name has been transferred to LTI no later than April 2, 2010.

Good job Naughty!

id like to see this stand up in court

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03-24-2010, 08:55 AM

Have fun wasting your $ to "protect your brand". Idiots
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03-24-2010, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by MrBottomTooth

I emailed them too when they initially sent out the first email regarding this months ago. They said they would be in contact and then I never heard anything back until they sent out this broadcast email today.

i got my sites approved after the first icq talk, i got message that everything is ok on my side, and today no new email received ...

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03-24-2010, 09:02 AM

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Seriously, why?!?

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03-24-2010, 09:11 AM

Excellent!
I would wish other program owners would do the same.

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03-24-2010, 09:12 AM

Are the Trade marks World Wide or simply implemented for the USA as you may well know you can trade mark country by country or world wide...Just a thought
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03-24-2010, 09:14 AM

I'm sure it won't affect you, unless you're using their brand to push other sponsors. Could be wrong though.

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03-24-2010, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by Robocrop

NAUGHTY AMERICA OFFERS AMNESTY TO CYBERSQUATTERS

Naughty America announced today a unique and one time amnesty program
for cybersquatters and typosquatters. Naughty America?s amnesty offer
is simple. Legal action will not be taken against cybersquatters and
typosquatters who transfer their infringing domain names to Naughty
America on or before April 2, 2010.

Naughty America owns the registered trademarks for ?Naughty America?
and numerous domain names incorporating the mark. Naughty America?s
long-standing ownership of the mark has not prevented infringers from
illegally profiting from Naughty America?s strong brand recognition
and goodwill by registering domain names that incorporate ?Naughty
America? or variations of the mark.

To participate in the amnesty program, anyone who has registered a
domain name that incorporates the trademark ?Naughty America? or
variations and misspellings of the mark needs to do the following:

1. Immediately stop any and all use of domain names that include the
trademark ?Naughty America? or variations and misspellings of ?Naughty
America;?

2. Transfer to Naughty America any and all rights in and to the
infringing domain names; and

3. Provide Naughty America with satisfactory proof that the domain
name has been transferred to LTI no later than April 2, 2010.

Good job Naughty!

I'm sure they are open for discussion with folks as well. I see nothing wrong with this. So what did you do?
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03-24-2010, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by RadicalSights

Have fun wasting your $ to "protect your brand". Idiots

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03-24-2010, 09:27 AM

I have no problem with a company looking to protect its trademarks, but to send this to every single affiliate is a little overzealous in my opinion. Its a handful of affiliates at best who are applicable and the tone of the email is rather aggressive in seeking any and all webmasters who might be infringing. Wouldn't it have been more professional to look at referral logs and send this email to those who are actually infringing? Either way, I'm not affected by this so it doesn't bother me all that much.
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03-24-2010, 09:45 AM

Protect your brand? Bitch, pleeeeeaassseee!

Lets get to the real truth. You see perhaps 20 affiliates that are making a decent buck with sites like diaryofamilf.net. You think you will go in and take the domain and get all of the cash with no affiliate payout and it will stay at #1 in MSN or #2 in Yahoo... But it won't... They will drop all links. The domain will be worthless.

To show their appreciation back to you they will devote time to getting a generic domain back to #2 in Yahoo and send the traffic to a sponsor like Nasty Dollars or TCG or anywhere else but you.

Now if the affiliate was already doing that now, I can see how your'd be protecting yourself. It would make perfect sense. You are listening to your lawyers and not listening to common sense enough...
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03-24-2010, 09:53 AM

if they are using it to promote them why would they want to lose potentional sales

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03-24-2010, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

Protect your brand? Bitch, pleeeeeaassseee!

Lets get to the real truth. You see perhaps 20 affiliates that are making a decent buck with sites like diaryofamilf.net. You think you will go in and take the domain and get all of the cash with no affiliate payout and it will stay at #1 in MSN or #2 in Yahoo... But it won't... They will drop all links. The domain will be worthless.

To show their appreciation back to you they will devote time to getting a generic domain back to #2 in Yahoo and send the traffic to a sponsor like Nasty Dollars or TCG or anywhere else but you.

Now if the affiliate was already doing that now, I can see how your'd be protecting yourself. It would make perfect sense. You are listening to your lawyers and not listening to common sense enough...

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if they are using it to promote them why would they want to lose potentional sales

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03-24-2010, 10:03 AM

i think only those who are using their name to promote other shit are angry now ...

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03-24-2010, 10:05 AM

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Looks like they are putting the hammer down.

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03-24-2010, 10:15 AM

Everytime i see a company do this it shocks me. Go after bag guys one by one , not en masse like this , it makes no sense , scares your own affiliates and degrades confidence.

Lets just say for example , i start a blog called naughtyamericablog.com this is a pretty clear case of trademark infringment, but if i am promoting naughtyamerica the only thing accomplished by taking the domain is loss of business. as others have pointed out , the one month influx of free traffic doesn't = the future loss of traffic. The webmaster won't promote the site because they don't own it anymore , links will get pulled and the affiliate will move onto programs who aren't so picky. So you get a bunch of worthless domains and a handfull of pissed off affiliates for a couple months of free traffic.

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03-24-2010, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by kristin

Sorry but when someone says "NA" I don't think of Naughty America.

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Crazy people over there. Get off your ass, their business is hurt so they have
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03-24-2010, 10:22 AM

And it's the most unprofessional way to kick their affiliates ass. I mean, they could write without sounding Too paranoid.

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Not good I believe. Its like kicking affiliates ass.....

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03-24-2010, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Roald

nothing wrong with protecting your brand

i guess it depends on how delusional the person is who is trying to protect their brand, and if they think 1/2 the net is infringing on their generic name. we all know who those people are.

Nothing wrong with protecting yourself, but there is something wrong trying to steal from people by strong arming them and scaring them into giving up their domains that you know would never hold up in court but you try anyway just to see who hands it over to you.

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03-24-2010, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

I have no problem with a company looking to protect its trademarks, but to send this to every single affiliate is a little overzealous in my opinion. Its a handful of affiliates at best who are applicable and the tone of the email is rather aggressive in seeking any and all webmasters who might be infringing. Wouldn't it have been more professional to look at referral logs and send this email to those who are actually infringing? Either way, I'm not affected by this so it doesn't bother me all that much.
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right like if i own naughtycams or something, maybe they are hoping i would be retarded and think oh shit i better give them my domain because they might sue me. That approach, however has worked by low life's here.

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03-24-2010, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by kristin

Sorry but when someone says "NA" I don't think of Naughty America.

99.999% of the rest of the population (not adult online world) thinks of Non Applicable when they see NA, so good luck with that one.

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03-24-2010, 10:34 AM

business must really be down for NA ()
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03-24-2010, 10:35 AM

Seems like a nice way to go about it.

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03-24-2010, 01:01 PM

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Are the Trade marks World Wide or simply implemented for the USA as you may well know you can trade mark country by country or world wide...Just a thought

That doesn't really matter.

Using a brand name that is in use by a known party is pretty foolish - first of all because most people simply abuse it by promoting competitors ..... This has to be punished and most jurisdictions respect this without the need of legal formalities.

Protect your brands and drive fraudulent affs out of the market.

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03-24-2010, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Roald

nothing wrong with protecting your brand

I agree. I'm going after anyone with 'cuckold' or 'slut' or 'wife' or 'interracial' in their domain name. Get my atty on the line
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03-24-2010, 01:12 PM

I had a bad experience with them. My revshare account was suspended without notice for what I later find out was due to having too good a ratios which they claimed were "completely and utterly impossible" to achieve and thus they assumed I must be doing something suspicious.

After finding this out, I tried to explain it was because I was linking directly to the join page for much of my traffic and as soon as I started doing this apparently NATS did not count those hits or severely undercounted them causing the high ratios. Not saying it was NATS fault as I may have linked to the page improperly even though sales were being recorded.

After telling them this my emails were no longer replied to. I mean if they did not want me to link directly to the join page fine, I would have just changed my links, but the way this was handled was horrible. Anyway, just wanted to vent as although this happened awhile ago I am always reminded of my experience whenever I see Naughty America mentioned.

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