Yea, talk about misguided. I would volunteer for the Democratic party only because I feel badly for how badly they're getting their ass kicked.

Dude... look in the mirror... you are a "free market" nutjob... maybe one of these days you will realize that there is no free market... ever. You are a slave to the system just like all of us. You can keep on kidding yourself all you want but we are the batteries in the Matrix.

You realize how dumb you sound with these accusations? I can say "you're a left wing nutjob", and it will sound as ridiculous as what you're saying. I'm not advertising a true free market economy, but one with very limited government intervention, like the opposite of what we have now. It has always worked.

If they getting their ass kicked, then why are you concerned and talking all this nonsense? Why don't you just kick back and enjoy the ride? You sound like one of those people mommy pulled off the tit a little too early :1orglaugh

I'll bet you the healthcare bill passes.

Wow, sorry I mistook you for a competent human being. What we're having is called a "debate". You're naturally not part of it because you lack the ability to follow. Your insult made no sense whatsoever which doesn't surprise me at all. Run along now little one.

Yeah like before FDR took on the Robber barons, right? The tea party view of the free market system isn't realistic... without strict regulation there would be huge monopolies, they would charge whatever they wanted because they would crush competition, they would use everything in their power to enslave the world population... it's already happening... you are just too blinded by ignorance to see it. The industrial revolution changed the world in such a fundamental way that our citizenry went from 95% self employed to 95% employed within a generation. There is no way around it... but anyway... I already know this is a fruitless discussion because you and I are both convinced of our own understanding of the world. I HATE what corporations have done to our country and LOVE what they have produced... ain't that a bitch.

No, in a debate you give a certain amount of actual facts (not what you think are facts) within a certain set guideline and there are judges that make sure you stay within the rules. This is just a ranting.

Right, so you've just basically stated that you have no idea what a "debate" is.:thumbsup

You don't need strict regulation to outlaw monopolies, not sure if you understand that. Not sure why you're bringing up the Industrial Revolution either. You know the difference between the private sector and the government? The government has a printing press. Otherwise, no difference. The fact that you would think the government plays the hero shows our fundamental differences. And did you just bring up FDR? You realize it took about 15 years to get out of the great depression and that's because of the heavy regulation?

Do you even know proper English? You keep saying that so and so is too stupid to respond yet you always reply.

Wait, this has WHAT to do with proper english? ROFL what a moron.

Well... thx for playing... time for me to take my wife out so she can have some fun. peace

Religious nutjobs, secular nutjobs...how about simply voting in someone who's not a fucking nutjob? That's all I ask anymore.

I'd be on the Ron Paul bandwagon now after seeing more and more of the stuff he's said. There's not many politicians who are giving a shit about what the people want and what's best for the people and he seems to be one of them and fairly intelligent. Unfortunately, I would not be surprised if Palin ends up being the Republican candidate in 2012, which would be the only way I wouldn't vote against Obama. Obama may suck, but she plain scares the crap out of me.

Palin scares the shit out of everybody.

My wife isn't quite ready yet... anyway... would you vote for Romney? He is Palin with a dick.

Romney over Obama? Sure. I'm not sure how you can realistically claim he's just a male version of Palin. What's the alternative? Obama? Lol

I doubt you will see much money spent on research if it does.

figures... I can't get past the magic underwear and I certainly wouldn't vote for a devout wackadoo <insert religion here>.

I feel the same about the epic fail that is secularism.

So you think that we should have a theocracy then... since you don't believe in separation of church and state?

I'm confused. Where did I ever state that I don't believe in the separation?

Guys, remember something when you argue with The Demon.

You have businesses to run. He has nothing to do with his days, he is not even in the adult industry.

Arguing with him costs you valuable time that you could use to make money. It costs him nothing because he is a lonely old man whose only social interaction comes from online.

Come by, poke fun at him to get him going and then leave him alone while he self-destructs. It works great.

No matter how much proof you throw at him, he will argue it. If has nothing to argue with back he will resort to name calling.

And this is why epitome is considered a joke even in his own industry. You'll get ignored just like the other morons :)

I've said things along those lines many times now. He is simply an annoying insect. Give him a whack once in a while, if you like, but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO NOT ENGAGE HIM IN ACTUAL DEBATE! He will drive you to drink with his juvenile and meaningless drivel.

In the end he will just call you names, or tell you you are "owned" or whatever stupid ass shit pops into his empty head.

Even if you insult him, he just pops right back up, like a whack-a-mole character, and replies with something along the grammar school level of "I know you are but what am I" or something equally original.

Cue the moron in 5, 4, 3 ....

What the fuck makes you think epitome is considered a joke in this industry? Do you even know who any of us are? I just did a search for your started threads and they are all political or meager epass/paypal transfers You are the fucking moron and I have serious doubts that you even work in adult. Just take a look at your sig and avatar, please, how fucking idiotic can you be? Now do us all a favor and go back crawl back under the shithole you came from.

"Moron" does seem to be his favorite adjective. Yet according to him he is a great debater and a deep thinker lol.

Haha now make that three retards all writing each other with nobody else giving a damn:)

says the biggest "nobody" on the board.

The Master Debater :1orglaugh

Says the 2nd dumbest person on a porn webmaster board :)

Tell you what, since you feel so strongly about it, have me banned :winkwink:

No need to have you banned. Over time everyone will see you for what you are. Once you finally realize everyone is laughing AT you, and not WITH you, you'll leave on your own.

As opposed to the majority of people you've known longer than me, either ignoring you or makign fun of you? "Over time" rofl... Sure thing BFT3k. I wanted you to try and have me banned so you can continue the self pwnage, but I don't think it even needs to come to that. Way to make this forum enjoyable for the rest of us.

He'll find himself banned soon enough.

Yea, I'll be banned when you get an inkling of intelligence and common sense :)

That figure really made a big impression you ...

Ever read a book???

Unless you've read a book a third of 2700 pages (that's 900 in case you can't count), or any book in general, you've no room to talk. Pelosi hasn't read it, which goes for most of the Democrats, Republicans, and American citizens.

Have you read it?

I have read parts of it yes. Did I ever claim to have read all of it or even most of it? No, nobody can make that claim.. Plus, it's full of legal jargon that isn't even worthy of bathroom reading.

So then how do you know it is so terrible? If you haven't read it or you don't fully understand it then this would mean you are getting your information from either 1. politicians, who we have all already determined haven't read it and don't understand it. 2. pundits, who will find two lines that they can focus on and build a movie, show or whatever about for the sole purpose of getting people angry. This means they don't know what is it in either, but they lie and make people think they do or 3. the news. Maybe they know, maybe they don't, but most of them don't really take a stance on it.

So if you have gotten your information from any of these groups how do you know it is accurate? Maybe Pelosi is right. maybe it will reduce the deficit, lower healthcare costs and help poor and uninsured get covered and it really isn't a government takeover of health care nor is it a money grab for the insurance companies.

First off, unless anyone read it completely on here, then this logic applies to everybody, including you. Secondly, I have read the most important parts that I think would have the most impact on this country. If we're talking about the current bill, it WILL help the poor and uninsured get covered, it WON'T lower healthcare costs nor reduce the deficits, and I'm still unclear as to the last one. It appears that it does help insurance companies out, especially regarding premiums. The government takeover doesn't take full effect until the public option becomes available.

All good questions...the fact is no one will know if it is a good thing or a bad thing until it works its way through the various court challenges that will probably come...the modifications that will be made and it is fully implemented which is not until 2018 with a few additional years beyond. Thus in about 10-12 years everyone will know. In the meantime it is speculation by everyone involved.