Healthcare - A Privilege Or A Right?

What do you care?

Since 1962, Canada has had a government-funded, national healthcare system founded on the five basic principles of the Canada Health Act. The principles are to provide a healthcare system that is: universally available to permanent residents; comprehensive in the services it covers; accessible without income barriers; portable within and outside the country; and publicly administered.

So what happens if through no fault of your own you end up unable to pay. Will the private insurance companies still pay out for your medical bills?

Rule #1. Nothing stays the same for ever. Your situation may change, retirement might be forced on you through old age, ill health or an accident. You might not be able to pay the premiums on your insurance or your employer might let you go and with it your cover. Then what happens? Will your system cover you and your family?

Come over and see how British doctors live. You will be in for a big surprise. People don't train for years and go through an Internship for crappy pay and long hours. Think logically.

And please don't throw out the you're a Communists bla bla to back a weak argument. I'm not even a Socialist. I just see the flaws in a system run for profit not being the best way to look after my health. The last two years have proven me to be right.

Your use of the word free is wrong. My health care is not free, I paid for it through my taxes which paid the doctors wages whether I needed him or not. So he's not being forced to work on me for nothing. I've already paid him.

I just did not have to pay for a private company taking a slice for profits and their costs.

And if I stop paying because I lose my job, fall too sick to work or retire. I'M STILL COVERED. Because I paid for it.

You're already paying for it. It's just a matter of the best way of getting the most you can out of what you are already paying for by acknowledging it through taxes and budgets. It's inevitable that eventually, it will be government run. Doctors are no longer making house calls with their little doctors bags. Get fucking real. It's too big for anything short of a cooperation or government to handle. Do you want to trust a cooperation or the government who you can at least bitch at for screwing it up?

And why should MY taxes go up because YOU are sick?

All insurance is paid when you "don't need it". So when you do need it the cost of putting it right is covered.

I wouldn't mind paying more in taxes if the govt ran the program right and didn't have so much waste. I don't like having my money wasted or paying 5x more than I should be if they would be doing their job right.

I also wouldn't mind paying more in taxes if the person who got sick was disabled, old, or young and couldn't afford coverage... wait we already pay taxes for those people to have free health care.

I'll take it a step further since I am a nice guy, if you are not old, young, or disabled, and you are working 2 jobs, living very modest and can't afford health care and you get sick, then I wouldn't mind paying more in taxes for you to get free health care.

What bothers me is that I will be paying for a lot of people who are irresponsible, low lifes, that don't deserve help. People that blow their money on drugs, beer, cigs, gambling, or buy nice things with it that they don't need instead of being responsible and paying for health care insurance. can we drug test people and if they fail deny them free health care ? If they buy nice cars, or live in nice appartments can we deny them free heath care? Why do I have to pay for someone else who chooses to not pay for themselves because they rather have a nice car then a 10 year old used one? or i have to pay for someone who has a drug habbit and can't pay for his own health care because he spends his money on crack.

Boiled down this argument becomes one of what is a right vs. doing what is right.

Health care certainly isn't spelled out anywhere in the Constitution or Bill of Rights, but one could argue that taking care of our fellow countrymen and women is the right thing to do.

How many people feel like their tax money is better spent on defense and weaponry to protect us from dangerous people like the Iraqis when it could be spent on things like dialysis or regular visits to the doctor?

Just because one takes care of their family and themselves all their lives doesn't mean health or circumstances will allow that to continue. The side in favor of covering everyone has a point and it needs to be considered rather than dismissed out of hand.

You do realize there are a lot of doctors that will not take Medicare and Medicaid because they said it pays to little and it takes a long time to get paid. If I was a doctor why would I want to get paid a shitty rate and have to wait for it. I would not accept any insurance and have my patients pay my rate in cash.

I think they should let the states handle the uninsured. There are already programs in place in almost all of the states.

In all fairness, this should be worked into the taxes we are paying right now and politcians salaries should be cut until they can figure out how to balance the budget without raising taxes any.

But I still think everyone should have doctors and hospitals the same way we have police and firemen. There is absolutely no difference except that the people have to be better trained and thus compensated at a higher level. There is no reason for their goal to be becoming filthy rich, in fact that should be discouraged in that profession.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

The problem is it won't be fair. The initial target is more tax for the wealthy. But we all know that the middle class will end up footing the bill.

Obama just needs to say, "You're either with us, or AGAINST us" and declare them all terrorists.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...s_Most_Popular

"For the first time, government programs next year will account for more than half of all U.S. health-care spending, federal actuaries predict, as the weak economy sends more people into Medicaid and slows growth of private insurance."

Jude LAw is living in a hollywood dreamland, British doctors are VERY well paid, most people would love to have an income like theirs, granted, the training is long and hard but the benefits at the end are worth reaping. people like them should think about manual workers who work just as long but for all their lives *(ot just for the training period) for much less money.

It's the end game with this administration.