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Old 03-13-2010, 07:44 PM   #51
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Not to worry Texas already has pretty lousy education and in 20-25 when the average Texans makes a mildly retarded person seem like a genius and the average workers makes minimum wage maybe they'll finally see the errors of their ways. Common sense sensetells you that the states thaty have hte MOST educated people are the ones that are better off why some state would want to delibertly down down it's population is beyond me. People spend all their time worrying about the rise of Islamic conservatism, but Americans need to worry about the rise of Christian conservatism. That's is the threat to our freedom and prosperity.
Ah yes, religion that can produce both fanatics and geniuses, or secularism, which produces people like you and the other 99% of the morons on this forum? I'll go with the former.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:12 PM   #52
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Social liberalism is only possible in a society that is expanding in real wealth.

In a society in decline, like america, it's inevitable that hate-based right wing ideology will prevail, as people fight over the shrinking pool of real wealth.

Your best bet is to allow the hate-based regions to virtually secede, even if they dont have the balls to actually secede.

You can't stop hate. It's a brainstem survival strategy.
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This is true, unfortunately. I used to teach English Grammar at the University Of Houston. This was a required course for those seeking a teaching degree. Many of my students didn't know the difference between a noun and a verb, even after the course. It's not because I didn't teach them. It's because they refused to learn. There were some good students, but not many.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:32 PM   #54
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Ah yes, religion that can produce both fanatics and geniuses, or secularism, which produces people like you and the other 99% of the morons on this forum? I'll go with the former.
Show me a religious genius! Just one! Confine it to the last 50 years. It is the only time in history that we have been truly free enough to really say what we think about god and religion. If I had lived 400 years ago, I would have probably been burned at the stake for my opinions.

In this time of relative freedom, show me ONE person who is a genius and who believes in talking snakes.
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It's Texas. Let Texas do things their own way - they ARE Conservative in Texas. Where have you been railing on Far-Left influences in California, New York? That is what made the US strong, we have 50 different experiments going on.

The voters have the ultimate vote - they can move with their feet, from state to state. Check out stats past 5 years.
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There is still that terrible nuisance of the constitution to consider. Does using religion to edit publically paid for history books violate the separation principle?

But, who knows, maybe the supremes will decide that separation doesn't mean what it used to mean.

We are headed for a virtual balkanization in any case. The real jobs and real wealth are still leaving the country.

Circling the wagons with religious indoctrination won't stop that.
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There is still that terrible nuisance of the constitution to consider. Does using religion to edit publically paid for history books violate the separation principle?

But, who knows, maybe the supremes will decide that separation doesn't mean what it used to mean.

We are headed for a virtual balkanization in any case. The real jobs and real wealth are still leaving the country.

Circling the wagons with religious indoctrination won't stop that.
Replacing truth with propaganda makes kids more stupid. We already have one of the worst secondary education systems in the world. Kids in Canada are far more educated by the time they leave school than they are in the USA. We do have the best higher education system in the world but most of the grad students are here on visas from other countries. In the program I was in, US grad students made up less than 20% of the total, and most of those were women. The majority of my fellow grad students were from South Korea or China. They studied ALL THE TIME, day and night, while most of the US students were out partying. Our future might not be so bright.
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Ah yes, religion that can produce both fanatics and geniuses, or secularism, which produces people like you and the other 99% of the morons on this forum? I'll go with the former.
Ok so you believe in God but are a pornographer? who is the moron?
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Ok so you believe in God but are a pornographer? who is the moron?
I don't understand why someone can't believe in God etc and promote porn. Not all religious people are puffed up prudes.

Seriously some of you have some really strange and damaged outlooks on things.
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I don't understand why someone can't believe in God etc and promote porn. Not all religious people are puffed up prudes.

Seriously some of you have some really strange and damaged outlooks on things.
If someone actually believes in the Bible then no he can't be involved in porn. If I believed in a all seeing God that had strict rules and the price for disobeying those rules were very bad things happening to me which may include death and most likely eternal damnation ina firey hell then I would sure to do everything he says.

what's weird to me is people that do actually bevieve in God and his powers and yet seemingly dare him to fuck them up by their disobediance or indifference to his rules and wishes. I mean that's fucking retarded
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Ok so you believe in God but are a pornographer? who is the moron?
He's not an adult webmaster. He's just a troll.

BTW, if God exists, how do you KNOW he doesn't like porn?
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He's not an adult webmaster. He's just a troll.

BTW, if God exists, how do you KNOW he doesn't like porn?
God doesn't need porn he can see into anyone's bedroom anytime he wants.
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If someone actually believes in the Bible then no he can't be involved in porn. If I believed in a all seeing God that had strict rules and the price for disobeying those rules were very bad things happening to me which may include death and most likely eternal damnation ina firey hell then I would sure to do everything he says.

What's weird to me is people that do actually bevieve in God and his powers and yet seemingly dare him to fuck them up by their disobediance or indifference to his rules and wishes. I mean that's fucking retarded
That is a very good point, but if there actually is a real god, he is not like the god of the bible. Nobody knows anything about him, if he exists at all. He might or might not approve of porn. The god of the bible probably hated porn, but that god is a fairy-tale.
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If someone actually believes in the Bible then no he can't be involved in porn. If I believed in a all seeing God that had strict rules and the price for disobeying those rules were very bad things happening to me which may include death and most likely eternal damnation ina firey hell then I would sure to do everything he says.

what's weird to me is people that do actually bevieve in God and his powers and yet seemingly dare him to fuck them up by their disobediance or indifference to his rules and wishes. I mean that's fucking retarded
Belief in a God/Supreme Being/Creator and a belief in one of the multitude of Bibles are not synonymous
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God is an angsty alien teenager with an xbox controller and earth is the red ring of death
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The mental technology of religion works by selectively resolving logical and verbal paradox, and selectively resolving and imposing guilt to justify animal behaviors.

So, it's actually entirely to be expected. Justification and guilt-transfer is the gift of religion.

That mental insulation is why brains using religion have been biologically successful.
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States can make there own set of standards, if people that live there don't like it, they can move or do something about it. Others in other states that like it can move there.

Texas has a better unemployment rate than most liberal states and after visiting Texas, I would have to say they are more patriotic than any other state in the union

California is a liberal state, we have a shitty education system. My daughter survived it. My nephew had a learning disability and had to move to Pennsylvania to find out about it. Now he's a straight "A" student.

I believe in god, not religion
Texas is full of dirtbags, I wouldn't live there for all the money in the world. And the 'patriots' in Texas are the first ones to spit on the Constitution when they don't like the result of following it. In fact, your governor just wanted to secede, how's that for 'patriotic'?. I wish to hell Obama would let you, it would be a huge improvement for the rest of the country if we just kicked you off the bus.
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Belief in a God/Supreme Being/Creator and a belief in one of the multitude of Bibles are not synonymous
Multitude of bibles? Can you actually name a few of these bibles?
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So God is Bill Gates?
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Texas is full of dirtbags, I wouldn't live there for all the money in the world. And the 'patriots' in Texas are the first ones to spit on the Constitution when they don't like the result of following it. In fact, your governor just wanted to secede, how's that for 'patriotic'?. I wish to hell Obama would let you, it would be a huge improvement for the rest of the country if we just kicked you off the bus.
Texas, particularly Houston, is home to some of the hottest strippers and greatest strip clubs on the planet. I wish I was back there.
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Multitude of bibles? Can you actually name a few of these bibles?
Yes...I can.
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Ah...excuse me..."Doctor"...you are not and have never been in my chain of command...thus I am not required to take orders from you...thank you very much.
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Ah...excuse me..."Doctor"...you are not and have never been in my chain of command...thus I am not required to take orders from you...thank you very much.
You make a claim and then refuse to back it up. A rational person like myself might conclude that your refusal is a lame attempt to save face because you don't know what the FUCK you're talking about.

Why do you continue to post on a board where absolutely nobody likes you? What a fucking troll!
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You make a claim and then refuse to back it up. A rational person like myself might conclude that your refusal is a lame attempt to save face because you don't know what the FUCK you're talking about.

Why do you continue to post on a board where absolutely nobody likes you? What a fucking troll!
Well..."Doctor" if you would have asked me nicely...I just may have educated you...but you didn't.

I will be kind enough to provide you with a link so that you can educate yourself if you so choose. It provides a history of some of the multitudes of bibles but does not list them all...maybe twenty or thirty of them is all.

http://www.1stwr.com/firstworldbibleresource/index.html
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Ok so you believe in God but are a pornographer? who is the moron?
Who said I was a pornographer? Moreover, what does one even have to do with the other? I'm a religious person who also believes in the 1st amendment.
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This is true, unfortunately. I used to teach English Grammar at the University Of Houston. This was a required course for those seeking a teaching degree. Many of my students didn't know the difference between a noun and a verb, even after the course. It's not because I didn't teach them. It's because they refused to learn. There were some good students, but not many.
I don't know how many times you've tried lying about your educational background on this forum. I don't think anybody, (including the morons) believes you've had any kind of higher learning.
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Texas is full of dirtbags, I wouldn't live there for all the money in the world. And the 'patriots' in Texas are the first ones to spit on the Constitution when they don't like the result of following it. In fact, your governor just wanted to secede, how's that for 'patriotic'?. I wish to hell Obama would let you, it would be a huge improvement for the rest of the country if we just kicked you off the bus.
That's ok digg, we prefer to keep illiterate buffoons like you out our state. You might dumb up the entire population just by speaking.
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What's funny is there isn't a single intelligent atheist/secularist on this forum. The reasoning and justification you kids use against religion makes it obvious why you need nothing more than a pulse to be in this industry.
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What's funny is there isn't a single intelligent atheist/secularist on this forum. The reasoning and justification you kids use against religion makes it obvious why you need nothing more than a pulse to be in this industry.
My level of intelligence may be in question...but I consider myself to be a secularist in that I think public education and other matters of civil policy should be conducted without the introduction of a religious element. There are a multitude of churches for those that care to learn about religion.

I am also an agnostic in that I think that all claims to knowledge of God/Supreme Being/Creator is uncertain at best.
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Governor Perry said they should secede. What do we need to do to get it done?

I've spent some time in Texas and felt like I was in a time warp as soon as I left a major city.

The governor down there is a joke. The first example that came to mind ... he acts like he is against stimulus spending and then used federal stimulus money to rebuild his house.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...siontexas.html
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Governor Perry said they should secede. What do we need to do to get it done?

I've spent some time in Texas and felt like I was in a time warp as soon as I left a major city.

The governor down there is a joke. The first example that came to mind ... he acts like he is against stimulus spending and then used federal stimulus money to rebuild his house.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...siontexas.html
If Texas were ever allowed to secede from the Union it could be economically devastating to the rest of the Union.
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Well..."Doctor" if you would have asked me nicely...I just may have educated you...but you didn't.

I will be kind enough to provide you with a link so that you can educate yourself if you so choose. It provides a history of some of the multitudes of bibles but does not list them all...maybe twenty or thirty of them is all.

http://www.1stwr.com/firstworldbibleresource/index.html
You are talking about different versions of ONE bible.

You're an idiot!
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Who said I was a pornographer? Moreover, what does one even have to do with the other? I'm a religious person who also believes in the 1st amendment.
So you ADMIT that you don't belong here. So why ARE you here anyway? To troll? To download free porn, in which case that makes you a hypocrite. Make believe Jesus is not going to be happy with you.
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I don't know how many times you've tried lying about your educational background on this forum. I don't think anybody, (including the morons) believes you've had any kind of higher learning.
I frankly couldn't care LESS what you think, idiot! Go thump your stupid religion somewhere else.
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What's funny is there isn't a single intelligent atheist/secularist on this forum. The reasoning and justification you kids use against religion makes it obvious why you need nothing more than a pulse to be in this industry.
You are the one who believes in burning bushes and talking snakes. You're the idiot. Not us. I can't believe the mods let attention whores like you troll with impunity.

You have never answered a single challenge to your stupid fucking religion. All you do is troll. There is zero evidence for your god, and yet you blindly believe. That is what a fucking retard does.
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Old 03-14-2010, 02:33 AM   #88
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If Texas were ever allowed to secede from the Union it could be economically devastating to the rest of the Union.
I doubt it. I'm not going to bother looking into it at this time of the morning, but I suspect it would save us money. Most red states cost more then they bring in.
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Old 03-14-2010, 02:36 AM   #89
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Texas, particularly Houston, is home to some of the hottest strippers and greatest strip clubs on the planet. I wish I was back there.
yeah, I hear Austin is pretty cool too. I also heard that East Texas is worse than the rest of it, some serious deliverance style shit going on there, KKK is still king, all kinds of shit.
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Old 03-14-2010, 02:38 AM   #90
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You are talking about different versions of ONE bible.

You're an idiot!
Pathfinder is right, you are wrong. The current bible was chosen at a conclave of the catholic church by a pope, there were dozens of books they could have chosen from to make the official New Testament. In fact, they could have done a better job of it. The books they chose are full of contradictions between each other.
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:07 AM   #91
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My level of intelligence may be in question...but I consider myself to be a secularist in that I think public education and other matters of civil policy should be conducted without the introduction of a religious element. There are a multitude of churches for those that care to learn about religion.

I am also an agnostic in that I think that all claims to knowledge of God/Supreme Being/Creator is uncertain at best.
I agree with all of this.
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:09 AM   #92
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Pathfinder is right, you are wrong. The current bible was chosen at a conclave of the catholic church by a pope, there were dozens of books they could have chosen from to make the official New Testament. In fact, they could have done a better job of it. The books they chose are full of contradictions between each other.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
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So you ADMIT that you don't belong here. So why ARE you here anyway? To troll? To download free porn, in which case that makes you a hypocrite. Make believe Jesus is not going to be happy with you.
To make fun of unconditionally stupid people like you. Please humor us with more claims about you teaching college.
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If someone actually believes in the Bible then no he can't be involved in porn. If I believed in a all seeing God that had strict rules and the price for disobeying those rules were very bad things happening to me which may include death and most likely eternal damnation ina firey hell then I would sure to do everything he says.

what's weird to me is people that do actually bevieve in God and his powers and yet seemingly dare him to fuck them up by their disobediance or indifference to his rules and wishes. I mean that's fucking retarded

There is a massive difference between believing in God and believing in organized religion. Try to learn the difference before you go around blindly judging people.
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Funny how the anti-religion, hippie socialists from California and outside the US get so worked up over Texas. Makes me wish I lived there.
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I doubt it. I'm not going to bother looking into it at this time of the morning, but I suspect it would save us money. Most red states cost more then they bring in.
Cmon, dig. Take a look at how Texas and California are currently doing economically before making a statement like that.
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Funny how the anti-religion, hippie socialists from California and outside the US get so worked up over Texas. Makes me wish I lived there.
I heard Texas is a great place to live! Though also heard if you are a broke ass jobless idiot with a meth habit they don't support you as nicely as in California.
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did they also put "creatonism" in the books? wouldn't surprise me
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I am all about letting people live their lives without interference from others, but the problem is that right wing bible thumpers won't do that. I have no problems with the belief in a higher power, even if it is based on blind faith, so long as people don't try to push their shit on me.
Those "right wing bible thumpers" aren't the problem, the real problem is government interference in our daily lives. Gotta focus on the real problem, not the symptoms...
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